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Scotland said:
Who is above the CEO? Are the board doing trade week now?

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Time will reveal true trade outcome

The full picture of this trade and draft period won't become clearer for several years
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"The full picture of this trade and draft period won't become clearer for several years"

Ah, no. If pick 12 turns out to be a superstar that does not justify trading down from pick 3.
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True.

However it also depends on who they draft with tthe Barrass picks.

Do they potentially use them or some of them to trade back into the 2024 draft.

The Baker trade Eagles paid overs.

The Barrass trade Hawks paid overs.

Swings and roundabouts.
 
Obeanie1 said:
True.

However it also depends on who they draft with tthe Barrass picks.

Do they potentially use them or some of them to trade back into the 2024 draft.

The Baker trade Eagles paid overs.

The Barrass trade Hawks paid overs.

Swings and roundabouts.
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So what you are saying is we can get pick 3 this year for the Hawks future picks.

Happy days 🥳
 
Obeanie1 said:
Did we come up with the ability to read?

No.

We just assume people can before they respond. Unfortunatley that isnt always the case.

And what is the issue, its 100% factual what the Hawks paid for Barress. The Hawks first three rounds of their 2025 draft hand before trade period commenced. With a F4th going back. A significant investment yes. Pretty much the entire draft hand each club gets issued each year depending on its ladder finishing position.

That was the deal, yes?

We are discussing the Barrass trade. Not what other pick swaps the Hawks did in other trades.
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Sigh....

Do you have the ability to read?

No.

Does Hawthorn have a hand of draft picks for next year?

Yes.

You can split hairs all day, but your argument remains redundant.
 

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Suma Says said:
2) Lawson Humphries. How can a kid who came through your academy look like a star at another team a couple of years later? How do you miss this kid when he's right under your nose?*



Given they had Nic Martin as a train on and passed on him too they certainly have form missing stars right under their noses
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Both WCE and the Hawks should be pretty happy with the trade.

Weagles, a team that is starting out their rebuild, get another first and second rounder, and swap a fourth for a third rounder - all for an aging player that; a) wanted to leave for various reasons, and b) would not be around for the next period of success the Weagles achieve. Meaning they have two firsts, seconds and thirds going into next year's draft.

Hawks get a mature, professional, ready-made quality FB - an area that has seemingly been identified as an area of need by the brains trust at the club.

And Barrass himself gets out of a rebuilding club and can hopefully spend his last few years vying for some success.

The obvious questions marks for both teams are:

- did the Hawks overpay for a 29 year old that's never played a full season, who has back issues that will have to be managed for the rest of his life (his own words)?

- did Weagles get enough of a return?

- did trying to demand two firsts, delaying the eventual inevitable deal, cause them to accept a poor trade involving pick #3 after the Hawks made the trade with the Bluuz?

I think those claiming we should have hit the draft again need to realise that over the last three years we have had the equivalent of five first rounders - Ward, Mackenzie, Weddle, Watson, McCabe. I'd say Macdonald (second rounder) has been first round worthy too. Plus additions like Ginnivan and D'Ambrosio, both playing at a first rounder standard.
 
West Coast have been a complete basketcase for three years running.
The club know they can't afford to be uncompetitive again in 2025, so they've traded to bring in mature players who can help them get more wins on the board.
Expect more kids to support Fremantle if 2025 turns out to be another year of West Coast being a dumpster fire.
 
Ill break it down for the deluded. Eagles brought in Baker, Graham and Owies. We brought the 3 above in in order to improve our list balance

Lets compare our list balance

In 21-25 age range this year who played AFL

21-25- Chesser, Hough, Brockman, L.Edwards. H.Edwards, Jamieson, B.Williams
25-29 - Liam Ryan, Liam Duggan, Tom Cole, Matt Flynn, Jake Waterman, Oscar Allen, Jack Petrucelle, Dom Sheed, Jayden Hunt

L.Edwards will be delisted also. Out of those I consider Hough and H.Edwards certain best 22. B.Williams best 25 atleast and other 3 no where near it. Post trade period we now have

21-25- Chesser, Hough, Brockman, L.Edwards. H.Edwards, Jamieson, B.Williams
25-29 - Liam Ryan, Liam Duggan, Tom Cole, Matt Flynn, Jake Waterman, Oscar Allen, Jack Petrucelle, Dom Sheed, Jayden Hunt , Liam Baker, Jack Graham , Matt Owies

So if we take L.Edwards out as he will be delisted very soon, we have 6 players between 21-25 and 12 between 25-29. Thats ontop of 4 players over the age of 30 who too. Id consider 10 of the 25-29 in our best 25 plus the 4 30 year olds. We have 14 of our best 25 over the age of 25.

Instead of getting Garcia/Dev/Sheldrick and adding more to the 21-25 group, we added 3 more to the 25-29 group so we can have 6 in one and 12 in the other.

Eagles fans can defend it but deep down they know it makes no sense. The rebuild is over. To have 12 players in the 25-29 group you are basically preparing for a tilt at the flag
 
Obeanie1 said:
Nice dream. You know the Tigers are in for years of pain. So you dream up a scenario about another ckub that makes you feel better about your clubs dire situation.

Lol.

Whatever you need to do to feel better buddy. Keep your head up.;):thumbsu:

Eagles have Warner and Starcevich in their sights in a big way for next years trade period. Currently the best draft hand in 2025 and cap space to burn. Come 2026 they will have turned the corner from a list buikd perspective.
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You've had only a handful of top 20 picks in the last five years and seem prepared to offer next year's' firsts for Warner. If you think the list build will have turned the corner by 2026 you really are an optimist. Rebuilds are hard and although time will tell, I'd hazard a guess West Coast haven't exactly nailed theirs so far.
 
Piggy Smalls said:
You've had only a handful of top 20 picks in the last five years and seem prepared to offer next year's' firsts for Warner. If you think the list build will have turned the corner by 2026 you really are an optimist. Rebuilds are hard and although time will tell, I'd hazard a guess West Coast haven't exactly nailed theirs so far.
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Eagles have two 1st next year.

One of those and a F1st 2026 gets it done.

By the end of 2026 the likes of Reid, Ginbey, Hough, Hewett and other youngsters will be passing 50 games.

This year and next we will use 1st round picks on kids and trade two for Warner turning 24.
 
Obeanie1 said:
Eagles have two 1st next year.

One of those and a F1st 2026 gets it done.

By the end of 2026 the likes of Reid, Ginbey, Hough, Hewett and other youngsters will be passing 50 games.

This year and next we will use 1st round picks on kids and trade two for Warner turning 24.
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Mentioning Hewett as a pillar is worrying. Im praying he has a career, not pinning him down as our 4th best young player....

Reid, 2 defenders + a midfielder who has serious injiury concerns isnt the building stones of a premiership contender im afraid.
 

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