What are West Coast trying to do?

[bzparkes]

In a time where clean skills are more important than ever, they've picked Allan, gross and Davis . But , because they were rated higher on amateur phantom drafts compared to where they were picked congrats to Eagles supporters.

Define clean skills.

Richmond 3-peated recently with 'shit' skills and now teams are trying to emulate that heavily contested style.

All 5 players we took are big, tough and fast and all are capable of cleanly gathering the ball off the ground at pace.

You can be the best kick in the game but if you can't even get the ball to begin with, it's useless.

 

[Xtreme]

The Eagles will finish above North Melbourne, Melbourne, Richmond and Geelong in 2025.


Take it to the bank.

 

[Freomaniac]

And if anyone is doyen of failure, it would be a Freo supporter.

no shit sherlock...

Dockers didnt play finals once between 2016 to 2021.

Spin it all you want. This current eagles rebuild was never gonna be a quick one.

Getting kids for the sake of it doesnt work 100 percent at the time. You need the right people to turn this club around.

Eagles havent made finals for 4 seasons in a row. Slim chance of eagles making finals in 2025. But I think they are in the right direction

 

[Freomaniac]

The Eagles will finish above North Melbourne, Melbourne, Richmond and Geelong in 2025.


Take it to the bank.

eagles will finish above North Melbourne and richmond.

Geelong and demons will finish higher than eagles though.

 

[Vintage]

The Eagles will finish above North Melbourne, Melbourne, Richmond and Geelong in 2025.


Take it to the bank.

Yep, with the list they’ve got there’s no excuse for finishing bottom 6. Anything lower than 12th would be a complete failure of their system and / or an indication that the players aren’t on board with the new coach.

 

[Xtreme]

Yep, with the list they’ve got there’s no excuse for finishing bottom 6. Anything lower than 12th would be a complete failure of their system and / or an indication that the players aren’t on board with the new coach.

Bring in Dodoro to get the list back into tip top shape!

eagles will finish above North Melbourne and richmond.

Geelong and demons will finish higher than eagles though.

Ye of little faith

Geelong and Melbourne are on the downhill slide. The Eagles are moving up into the world.

 

[Corkintheocean]

lol

Congratulations WC draft haul appears decent, on the surface

However I still wouldn’t go patting Clarke or your list management on the back as most of your picks came down to good luck not good management - that doesn’t change your questionable trade period moves

Remember obeanie son …even a broken clocks right twice a day

Surely trading back from 15 to 16 and still getting our target in Allan and pick 45 (Gross) was good management?

 

[chaddy22]

lol

Congratulations WC draft haul appears decent, on the surface

However I still wouldn’t go patting Clarke or your list management on the back as most of your picks came down to good luck not good management - that doesn’t change your questionable trade period moves

Remember obeanie son …even a broken clocks right twice a day

So when the list management team makes bad decisions they are hopeless.
When they make some good decisions it is just plain good luck.
We are just happy that they didn't go Pieman.

 

[ghostbat12]

lol

Congratulations WC draft haul appears decent, on the surface

However I still wouldn’t go patting Clarke or your list management on the back as most of your picks came down to good luck not good management - that doesn’t change your questionable trade period moves

Remember obeanie son …even a broken clocks right twice a day

Always trust a freo fan to give west coast advice on how to undertake a successful list management strategy.

Now if north offered a future first to get back in the 2nd round, just sit and think what you paid for Bolton…he better win the Brownlow.

We aren’t trading in clocks.

 

[WilloTree]

Think West Coast did very well with the picks they had. Davis at 65 looks a bargain. Looks like a good group of different types of players. Obviously there will be a Jagger Smith watch but nothing they could do about that come draft night.

eagles will finish above North Melbourne and richmond.

Geelong and demons will finish higher than eagles though.

Not sure about Dees. From an outsiders view the club seems to be falling apart.

Always trust a freo fan to give west coast advice on how to undertake a successful list management strategy.

Now if north offered a future first to get back in the 2nd round, just sit and think what you paid for Bolton…he better win the Brownlow.

We aren’t trading in clocks.

Why are you so concerned about Freo? Surely you can be a bit excited/interested in who Eagles brought in? Maybe give us an insight or comment how you see them fitting in?

I've never understood how some people would rather froth at the mouth about another club rather than have an interest in their own.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

As an outsider looking into the club I am genuinely confused as to what they're doing with their list, they haven't bottomed out yet, they still have numerous older players yet to hang up the boots, yet they've decided to bring in 3 mature age players, and opted to trade away their #3 draft pick when ideally this is the time they'd be trying to stock pile young players and develop them as part of their future core, do they genuinely believe they can make one last gasp effort for finals?

I don't know, the Fremantle supporter in me would be happy to see them down the bottom for years to come, but the objective part of me is just wondering whether this is strategic or pure incompetence on their behalf?

I think the execution of the strategy is debatable with the trade for Baker, but, the strategy in general of trying to add kids and maintain on-field structure makes sense.

Kids develop quicker with well defined roles and having some senior guys around to support that for me makes perfect sense.

This is basically how geelong have been navigating the cliff since 2019. This year I think could get a bit rough for us but otherwise it's been a good strategy

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Maybe it's because it's my club and I follow them closely so I can see exactly what they're doing. Pretty sure the new heads of the club have had enough of seeing the team getting pumped by 70+ points every week so they're bringing in players from a specific age range to try and stop the bleeding when shit goes south quickly.

I'm not gonna defend the trading back from 3 to get Baker, but my God were we kissed on the c*ck with the draft. Drafting top picks for a ground zero club is never a guarantee, ask Melbourne how that went for Scully, Trengove, Cale Morton

Cale Morton

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Mid

Career

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18.9

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8.1

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5.8

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1.6

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1.3

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17.0

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4.4

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1.0

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and Jack Watts

 

[Lsta062]

In a time where clean skills are more important than ever, they've picked Allan, gross and Davis . But , because they were rated higher on amateur phantom drafts compared to where they were picked congrats to Eagles supporters.

But what’s the point of clean skills if you cannot get or retain the ball in the first place?

Focusing on clean skills is great if you can get/retain the ball, but that’s not how I describe the current West Coast team pre-draft.

There’s more than one way of becoming a successful team. To each their own, but I think West Coast did very well in the draft.

 

[Obeanie1]

Absolutely agree was poor list management by freo.
But You won’t see me blowing smoke up their arses regardless , unlike WC supporters talking up their draft haul as if it was some sort pre planned masterstroke

Lol. Who said it was?

Eagles took full advantage of other clubs passing on players they rated highly. As did the experts.

Yes, there was an enormous amount of luck for the Eagles this draft. Massive actually. They were shopping a future 1st to chase Shanahan apparently and luckily no club was interested. End up saving an expensive upgrade and got the player they wanted with 30.

Massive luck.

Same with a AA Gross at 46 taken with Boxhill going a pick before and then Dennis.

If you actually paid attention there is very little blowing smoke up anyones arse at the Eagles recruiting team. Many have Clarke on notice for a poor start. They were increadibly lucky to recover as well as they did.

You are just coming across as a standard salty Freo supporter annoyed that the trade setbacks didnt translate into a sub par draft result for the Eagles.

 

[WilloTree]

Maybe it's because it's my club and I follow them closely so I can see exactly what they're doing. Pretty sure the new heads of the club have had enough of seeing the team getting pumped by 70+ points every week so they're bringing in players from a specific age range to try and stop the bleeding when shit goes south quickly.

I'm not gonna defend the trading back from 3 to get Baker, but my God were we kissed on the c*ck with the draft. Drafting top picks for a ground zero club is never a guarantee, ask Melbourne how that went for Scully, Trengove, Cale Morton and Jack Watts

Jimmy Toumpas was a good pick though

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Can't fault their drafting, they did well. And if the reports about Hotton were true, that would have been an even better pick. They need to learn a thing or two about trading, but the drafting looks good so far.

 

[Freomaniac]

Bring in Dodoro to get the list back into tip top shape!



Ye of little faith

Geelong and Melbourne are on the downhill slide. The Eagles are moving up into the world.

Geelong and their old players refuse to die or lose. lol

 

[Freomaniac]

Always trust a freo fan to give west coast advice on how to undertake a successful list management strategy.

Now if north offered a future first to get back in the 2nd round, just sit and think what you paid for Bolton…he better win the Brownlow.

We aren’t trading in clocks.

Ah the old it always work for most clubs but it doest work for the dockers.


No matter how yo spin it, it was always gonna be a long rebuild.

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Other than being in the room and having a couple of interviews Clarke had almost nothing to do with the draft process at all.

For good reason he is a clown

 

[Corkintheocean]

Ah the old it always work for most clubs but it doest work for the dockers.


No matter how yo spin it, it was always gonna be a long rebuild.

Going on 30 years now I believe..

 

[Grumpyshades]

Absolutely agree was poor list management by freo.
But You won’t see me blowing smoke up their arses regardless , unlike WC supporters talking up their draft haul as if it was some sort pre planned masterstroke

same as years of freo supporters telling us their list was some sort of management masterstroke..when in reality its a list built on draft picks from lowly finishes and players walking out of the club

a list that finished 10th btw

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

If Harley Reid wants to go to a Victorian club, we can offer 2 top 5 picks next year.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

If Harley Reid wants to go to a Victorian club, we can offer 2 top 5 picks next year.

A contracted harley reid might cost you the whole top 5

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

A contracted harley reid might cost you the whole top 5

'Victorian clubs have “indicated” they’re prepared to pay $18 million over 10 years to try and secure Eagles prodigy Harley Reid, according to Herald Sun reporter Jon Ralph.

It’s believed West Coast would need to hand Reid a fourth-year deal worth as much as $2 million — but are currently only willing to offer $1.5 million — to convince the former No. 1 pick to re-sign beyond his current mandatory three-year contract until 2026.

The Eagles are working with Reid’s management to try and get the 19-year to extend on his deal, but under new rules, the club can’t rework his contract.'

 

[HairyO]

The Eagles will finish above North Melbourne, Melbourne, Richmond and Geelong in 2025.


Take it to the bank.

The Eagles will make the 8 ??

'Victorian clubs have “indicated” they’re prepared to pay $18 million over 10 years to try and secure Eagles prodigy Harley Reid, according to Herald Sun reporter Jon Ralph.

It’s believed West Coast would need to hand Reid a fourth-year deal worth as much as $2 million — but are currently only willing to offer $1.5 million — to convince the former No. 1 pick to re-sign beyond his current mandatory three-year contract until 2026.

The Eagles are working with Reid’s management to try and get the 19-year to extend on his deal, but under new rules, the club can’t rework his contract.'

And clubs cant talk to opposition players during the year...

If Harley wants to stay he will get the contract he wants and it will be all-but-signed well in advance.

If he wants to go, the Eagles will need to work out how to extract maximum value - but the advantage is 2 years worth of future picks will be tradeable.