What Carlton could have been..

[KennyHunter9]

Fortunately for the OP, BF does not require an IQ test. One of the dumbest threads for some time.

 

[stui magpie]

Awww diddums. We've got 16 legit flags.

Sorry about that, but you'll have to play catch up the old fashioned way

More like 10.

 

[Monkey King]

More like 10.

So what's that leave the Pies with ... 2?

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Hindsight is an extraordinary thing and this could be done for all clubs. However I think Carlton's seems like an exceptional circumstance.

Imagine if carlton:

1) Didn't trade for Judd
2) Didn't sack Fev
3) Picked Cotchin instead of Kruezer
4) Didn't trade Jacobs

They could have had:

1) A forward line with Fev and Kennedy
2) A midfield of Cotchin, Murphy, Gibbs, Carrazo, Simpson and pretty sure Dangerfield or Masten
3) Jacobs (leading hit-outs to adv) tapping it to that midfield

Are there any other clubs that in hindsight could have been this good?

The Sliding Doors alternative is irrelevant since Ratten was our coach.

 

[stui magpie]

So what's that leave the Pies with ... 2?

Ours are all legit, and we're owed a few others. 20 would be a better call.

 

[Monkey King]

Ours are all legit ...

Hahahahaha. Turn it up!

Btw, Squizzy asked if you'd like to make a bet on that

Sorry, but like the Hawks, if you want more flags than Carlton you're just going to have to earn them.

 

[DrEvil]

Hahahahaha. Turn it up!

Btw, Squizzy asked if you'd like to make a bet on that

Sorry, but like the Hawks, if you want more flags than Carlton you're just going to have to earn them.

Carlton sure 'earned' those flags. How many brown paper bags did each flag cost?

 

[Monkey King]

Carlton sure 'earned' those flags. How many brown paper bags did each flag cost?

YAWN! Which flags sorry? Sounds like you made this up!

Don't fret sonny, your Hawks may yet be as successful as Carlton one day. Hang in there

 

[DrEvil]

YAWN! Which flags sorry? Sounds like you made this up!

Don't fret sonny, your Hawks may yet be as successful as Carlton one day. Hang in there

The real question is, which carlton flag is not marked by asterix?

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Carlton sure 'earned' those flags. How many brown paper bags did each flag cost?

Bud, it's common knowledge the 80s-early 90s Hawks paid over the salary cap.

 

[TigerTime88]

If my club used brown paper bags I would not care as long as it delivered flags lol

 

[Monkey King]

The real question is, which carlton flag is not marked by asterix?

So that's none then right? You can't come up with even a one. Dude! It's not the Bay. Front up or GTFO.


Isn't that right Asterix?

LULZ

 

[Crankyhawk]

Ok stupido here goes:

1: The Judd trade was a no brainer any club in the comp would have done the same and Carlton are better off with Judd .
2: Had no option but to sack Fev ..and their forward line actually became more productive once fev was gone (and Fev was still Fev even after he left)
3: Cotchin and Kruezer was a 50/50 option at the time, and The Jury is still out on whether Cotchin would have been a better fit than Kruezer .
4: Had no choice in trading Jacobs..he wanterd to go home to SA and 'thought his game time would be limited due to Carltons depth of big men.

Carltons list is fine..lets see what eventuates over the next few years before starting stupid and idiotic what ifs .

Not unreasonable to thiink that had carlton picked Cotchin (agree this was a 50/50) then Jacobs may not have felt his game time could be limited. Of course it didn't help that you recruited Warnock who (correct me if wrong) has shown very little for carlton?

 

[Jock]

The club was on its knees. Broke, no sponsors, players didn't want to come to us, we were in terminal trouble.
Then there was Judd, sponsors came back, the whole club lifted.
Maybe no Judd no club. No regrets there at all, we had to give something to get him, all blues supporters wish Kennedy well.

 

[The Dog]

What if Carlton had of traded Fev to Eagles as part of the Judd package instead of JK? Probably would have kept pick 3 too.

 

[gbatman]

Yeah often think about what the OP mentioned. Though Henderson is a damn good CHB so the Fev trade was not all that bad.

 

[Monkey King]

Not unreasonable to thiink that had carlton picked Cotchin (agree this was a 50/50) then Jacobs may not have felt his game time could be limited. Of course it didn't help that you recruited Warnock who (correct me if wrong) has shown very little for carlton?

It's unreasonable to assume this is anywhere near a fact. Jacobs wanted to go home. Krezuer had done an ACL and Warnock and Hammer were two other ruckmen standing in his way that season. Every chance it wouldn't have made even the slightest of difference.

As for Warnock, actually, when he can stay injury free he's shown himself to be a pretty good ruckman.

And again, this is the weakness of this exercise. These blokes careers are far from over and footy changes oh so quickly. For all we know, the footy Gods will switch everything next year and Cotchin will do an ACL and Jacobs a shoulder while Warnock and Kreuzer have the best years of their careers. It's that lame IMO.

 

[DrEvil]

Hindsight is an extraordinary thing and this could be done for all clubs. However I think Carlton's seems like an exceptional circumstance.

Imagine if carlton:

1) Didn't trade for Judd
2) Didn't sack Fev
3) Picked Cotchin instead of Kruezer
4) Didn't trade Jacobs

They could have had:

1) A forward line with Fev and Kennedy
2) A midfield of Cotchin, Murphy, Gibbs, Carrazo, Simpson and pretty sure Dangerfield or Masten
3) Jacobs (leading hit-outs to adv) tapping it to that midfield

Are there any other clubs that in hindsight could have been this good?

You should really go back to Stephen O'Reilly. What could Carlton have been if their systematic cheating weren't caught?

 

[Monkey King]

You should really go back to Stephen O'Reilly. What could Carlton have been if their systematic cheating weren't caught?

I think you can safely take your derailing bullshit and move along now chump!

 

[DrEvil]

I think you can safely take your derailing bullshit and move along now chump!

Seriously just imagine how much better your team woud be if you weren't caught? Is the correlation between Carlton's performance and its ability to get away with cheating not clear as day to you?

 

[Monkey King]

Seriously just imagine how much better your team woud be if you weren't caught? Is the correlation between Carlton's performance and its ability to get away with cheating not clear as day to you?

Seriously, that's as irrelevant to the thread topic as asking how Hawthorn would have suffered if they'd been caught for their cheating. Is the correlation Hawthorn's performances and it's ability to get away with cheating not obvious to you? I don't know why blokes like you trash the Main Board when the Bay's right there.

 

[CakeButcher]

Imagine if we'd picked Franklin instead of Tambling......

There would have been 5,123,645 less posts on Big Footy!!!!!!

Every thread by a Tiger supporter these days is a tribute to Trent Cotchin. If you took Buddy, and he plays just as well as he does for Hawthorn for your mob, there will probably be a new thread every time he kicks a goal, gets a new haircut, speeding ticket etc. So there would actually be 5,123,645 more posts on Big Footy.

 

[Doss]

Here's something to ponder- if Franklin had been drafted by Richmond or Footscray and say Tambling or Tom Williams picked up by Hawthorn, who would Necromancer Beth's favourite player be?

 

[Richter]

AFL draft 2001 St Kilda and who we could have taken...

2. Ball (Judd 3)
5. Xavier Clarke (Bartel 8)
13. Dal Santo
21. Maguire (S Johnson 25)
37. Montagna
49. Houlihan (Swan 58)

Would have given us a team in the mid '00s of

Baker Hudghton Black
A Jones Fisher Goddard
Harvey Dal Santo Bartel
Koschitzke Hayes Judd
S Johnson Riewoldt Swan
Hamill Gehrig Milne

Int: Blake Montagna Guerra

Fair to say that team would have cleaned up a few flags from 2004 onwards...

Que sera, sera...

 

[woomera_skp]

Just imagine what Richmond coud've been right now:

Pav over Fiora
Franklin over Tambling
Beams over Post
LeCras instead of McGuane
Scott Selwood instead of McMahon
Fyfe instead of Griffiths
Barlow instead of Hicks
Birchall instead of JON
Swallow instead of Cleve Hughes
Stokes instead of Casserly
Sam Mitchell instead of Rodan
Stevie J instead of pick 17 for Stafford

B: Newman Grimes Birchall
HB: Deledio Rance Conca
C: A.Swallow Martin S.Selwood
HF: Fyfe Pavlich Franklin
F: Stokes Riewoldt LeCras
Foll: Maric Cotchin S.Mitchell
Int: Barlow Foley Tuck S.Johnson


HNNNNNNNNGGGGGGHHHHHHHH


Every team can do this

Is that Fantasy picks or did you actually had a chance to go this way???