What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 4

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This is a very poorly written article but I'm posting it here because the underlying topic is of great importance (Concussion injuries and the AFL's handling of the issue). I had to read it three times and I'm still not sure I fully understand who said what or who the review panel was. As the original report was quite critical of the AFL and has now been substantiated I'm assuming most of this article is from an AFL press release and that they're quite happy for it to be fairly confusing to the media and the general public who will quickly move onto something else.

www.abc.net.au

Players 'let down' by AFL concussion study

Former players who participated in the AFL's concussion research project receive an apology from the league after an independent review into the study.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

An interesting point is that the review seems to suggest Prof McCrory plagiarised something or other. That's quite an accusation. No details were provided and no response was reported from McCrory.

Bottom line is that the AFL's original research project "was under-funded and under-resourced and suffered from a lack of governance, stewardship and coordination in how it was rolled-out and implemented, and how it simultaneously accommodated clinical and research objectives".

Quite an admission from the AFL and it's a finding they accept. Naturally they say "but things are much better now".
Let's hope that's the case.
 
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On ABC News Breakfast this morning, Michael Rowland and Lisa Millar interviewed US ambassador to Australia Caroline Kennedy (daughter of JFK).

After some serious geopolitical discussion, Michael Rowland asked the ambassador of she'd selected an AFL team to support. She said she's seen a game, but did not have a team. He told her the best club in the country is the Western Bulldogs, who also happen to feature the same colours as the US flag. She mentioned she knew they'd been in the news (for losing a 'semi' final - not sure she had the right team), but he presented her with a Bulldogs scarf, which she quite happily immediately donned, and said she looked forward to seeing more games.

I believe Julia Gillard when PM presented Barack Obama with a footy and tried to steer him our way, seems we may now have a member of the Kennedy family on-board. (And by degrees of separation, I think we should claim Marilyn Monroe, Joe DiMaggio and Simon and Garfunkel as well!)
 
geoffjennings79 said:
On ABC News Breakfast this morning, Michael Rowland and Lisa Millar interviewed US ambassador to Australia Caroline Kennedy (daughter of JFK).

After some serious geopolitical discussion, Michael Rowland asked the ambassador of she'd selected an AFL team to support. She said she's seen a game, but did not have a team. He told her the best club in the country is the Western Bulldogs, who also happen to feature the same colours as the US flag. She mentioned she knew they'd been in the news (for losing a 'semi' final - not sure she had the right team), but he presented her with a Bulldogs scarf, which she quite happily immediately donned, and said she looked forward to seeing more games.

I believe Julia Gillard when PM presented Barack Obama with a footy and tried to steer him our way, seems we may now have a member of the Kennedy family on-board. (And by degrees of separation, I think we should claim Marilyn Monroe, Joe DiMaggio and Simon and Garfunkel as well!)
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hah cultural, I often thought we should get Uncle Sam as a sponsor, they wouldn't miss a billion or so, right colours and nice promo for them

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WESTERN Bulldogs legend Brad Johnson says some home truths from coach Terry Wallace almost 30 years ago were the catalyst for his record-breaking career and have stuck with him in the three decades since.

Johnson is club legend and the games record-holder at the Bulldogs, but the start of his career at the Whitten Oval did not go as smoothly as he had hoped.

Drafted with pick No.11 in 1993, Johnson had to juggle football and Year 12 in his first year and languished in the reserves for much of his debut season.
Despite being a highly-rated young player, he was struggling to even make an impact in the twos, which led to a career-shaping conversation with Wallace, the then reserves coach at the Dogs.

"I was really battling a bit and he goes, 'Look, I'd drop you but I've got nowhere to drop you to!," Johnson told The Inside Game. "'You're on the list, there's nowhere to go, I can't send you back to Hoppers Crossing'.

"That was probably the little switch I needed, that direct feedback. Five weeks later I played my first senior game.

"That was the first test for me in terms of responding to some really direct feedback in the footy environment."
Johnson says it wasn't just the honesty from Wallace that got the best out of him, but what the coach did next.

"He said that and then supported me through the next period to help build me back up as a player," he said.

"That taught me so many lessons, that one piece of feedback, (about) the support you show the person when you give the feedback and how you make them better for it.

"I played senior footy five weeks later and finished with nine (games) in my first year. It was a great introduction to the AFL world and those lessons lived with me throughout. And it's the early lessons you get that live with you through your career."
While Johnson took Wallace's feedback in his stride, he concedes the modern player is under a much harsher spotlight than he was during his career.

The six-time All Australian says the scrutiny from both within the football club and externally through social media is something that could have upset even his famously sunny disposition.

"(Social media) wasn't something that dominated the landscape like today," he says. "I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. I don't know how I'd go, to be perfectly honest.
"It's so tough to live a life in the AFL system because you're judged all the time internally. The minute you walk in the doors of your footy club, it starts. How are you feeling, you've got to fill out your wellness, you've got to fill out everything ... the coaches are looking at you, doing your first gym session for that day. Everything is judged consistently.

"And then you have the external pressure of trying to live a life on social media, where feedback is constant and instant. I don't know how I'd go with that.

"It'd be tough at times, no question."
 
News around the traps today:
  • Alistair Clarkson started work at North and said (in response to the inevitable questions) they would be "defending ourselves pretty strongly" in the AFL's pending review of allegedly racist incidents at Hawthorn.
www.abc.net.au

'We're going to defend ourselves pretty strongly': Alastair Clarkson speaks as Hawks cultural safety review draws closer

Former Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson says he is looking forward to the chance to contribute to the Hawks cultural safety review and defend himself — but in the meantime he is getting on with his new role as North Melbourne coach.
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  • Meanwhile the lawyer for one of the indigenous women involved in the Hawthorn saga said she would not be participating in the AFL review because she is "refusing to consent to the silencing tactics of the AFL".
www.abc.net.au

Woman at centre of Hawthorn racism review will not participate in AFL investigation

The lawyer for a woman at the centre of the Hawthorn cultural safety review says his client will not participate in the AFL's investigation, saying she is "refusing to consent to the silencing tactics of the AFL".
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

The lawyers issued a four page statement that outlined five key reasons why she is refusing to participate in what they labelled the AFL's "self-proclaimed 'independent' investigation":​
  • Its lack of independence
  • That it "continues the pattern of abuse it is supposedly addressing"
  • That it has been unduly rushed
  • That it is not "culturally safe", as the AFL claims
  • That "the AFL does not have the appropriate appetite, expertise or strategy to effectively address the matters raised in the Hawthorn Cultural Safety Review".
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  • Also at North, Jared Polec got delisted despite having a year left on his lucrative contract. What a bust.
 
The other bit of news today is that the federal government is doing away with the legal requirement to say “gamble responsibly” at the end of betting ads. Instead it will be replaced with a range of other slogans because the old one had stopped cutting through.

Either way … gamble responsibly.
 
dogwatch said:
The other bit of news today is that the federal government is doing away with the legal requirement to say “gamble responsibly” at the end of betting ads. Instead it will be replaced with a range of other slogans because the old one had stopped cutting through.

Either way … gamble responsibly.
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Slip slap slop?
 
dogwatch said:
News around the traps today:
  • Alistair Clarkson started work at North and said (in response to the inevitable questions) they would be "defending ourselves pretty strongly" in the AFL's pending review of allegedly racist incidents at Hawthorn.
www.abc.net.au

'We're going to defend ourselves pretty strongly': Alastair Clarkson speaks as Hawks cultural safety review draws closer

Former Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson says he is looking forward to the chance to contribute to the Hawks cultural safety review and defend himself — but in the meantime he is getting on with his new role as North Melbourne coach.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

  • Meanwhile the lawyer for one of the indigenous women involved in the Hawthorn saga said she would not be participating in the AFL review because she is "refusing to consent to the silencing tactics of the AFL".
www.abc.net.au

Woman at centre of Hawthorn racism review will not participate in AFL investigation

The lawyer for a woman at the centre of the Hawthorn cultural safety review says his client will not participate in the AFL's investigation, saying she is "refusing to consent to the silencing tactics of the AFL".
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

The lawyers issued a four page statement that outlined five key reasons why she is refusing to participate in what they labelled the AFL's "self-proclaimed 'independent' investigation":​

  • Also at North, Jared Polec got delisted despite having a year left on his lucrative contract. What a bust.
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Mmm should we pick up Polec on a rookie contract then ?
 
dogwatch said:
The other bit of news today is that the federal government is doing away with the legal requirement to say “gamble responsibly” at the end of betting ads. Instead it will be replaced with a range of other slogans because the old one had stopped cutting through.

Either way … gamble responsibly.
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Yay so they can still make $$$ but look like they are doing something
 
DueWest said:
Mmm should we pick up Polec on a rookie contract then ?
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Doubt it. North was his second club which is a warning sign for a DFA. His career has been going backwards the last 3 years, but I don't know his story at North. I guess it's possible there were good reasons and he still has something to offer.
 
Graham Polak (ex-Freo and ex-Tiger) had his career shortened when he was hit by a tram.
Yet still probably has more contested ball desire today than Jared Polec.
Debilitating foot injury or not, he was so outside the North runner once delivered a message to him in Spencer Street.
 

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Wasn‘t Polec one of the players who left Brisbane in that mass exodus. He would still be playing for them now, if he hadn’t done that. A lesson for other young players who don’t stick out their contracts.
 
Dogs_r_barking said:
Wasn‘t Polec one of the players who left Brisbane in that mass exodus. He would still be playing for them now, if he hadn’t done that. A lesson for other young players who don’t stick out their contracts.
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He's a 3-club player. Had a half-decent career at Port after Brisbane, but North/Brad Scott thought they needed icing when they didn't even have a cake, so threw silly money at Polec. Was actually signed for 5 years 2019-2023. If he stands his ground, they'll have to pay him out for next year.
 
dogwatch said:
Wow, Ian Bryant has changed a bit since I last saw him.

Check this out ... a drop kick for goal 50m out.
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Ah, the drop kick. Playing junior footy, we used to kick them at training (or try to!). Stab passes were on their way out too, but I utilised the torp into the late 1970s - was one of the few amongst my mates who could execute it with any skill, but even then I reckon I was only kicking 7 out of 10 properly, if I was lucky. I did try drop kicks in games occasionally - until one of my coaches told me to cut it out!

Also spotted Graham Ion in one of the photos - looks good for his age. Was it him or Barry that also worked as a DJ later (possibly on Adelaide radio)?
 
geoffjennings79 said:
Ah, the drop kick. Playing junior footy, we used to kick them at training (or try to!). Stab passes were on their way out too, but I utilised the torp into the late 1970s - was one of the few amongst my mates who could execute it with any skill, but even then I reckon I was only kicking 7 out of 10 properly, if I was lucky. I did try drop kicks in games occasionally - until one of my coaches told me to cut it out!

Also spotted Graham Ion in one of the photos - looks good for his age. Was it him or Barry that also worked as a DJ later (possibly on Adelaide radio)?
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When I was at uni one of the guys in our year kicked beautiful drop kicks. The way they spun they were great to mark when we played end to end. In the first game I played he kicked one and I took a big grab in a pack. One of my few footy highlights. :p
 
Fossie 32 said:
When I was at uni one of the guys in our year kicked beautiful drop kicks. The way they spun they were great to mark when we played end to end. In the first game I played he kicked one and I took a big grab in a pack. One of my few footy highlights. :p
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Given the quality of your posting and occasional self-deprecation, I suspect you're being modest!
 
geoffjennings79 said:
Ah, the drop kick. Playing junior footy, we used to kick them at training (or try to!). Stab passes were on their way out too, but I utilised the torp into the late 1970s - was one of the few amongst my mates who could execute it with any skill, but even then I reckon I was only kicking 7 out of 10 properly, if I was lucky. I did try drop kicks in games occasionally - until one of my coaches told me to cut it out!

Also spotted Graham Ion in one of the photos - looks good for his age. Was it him or Barry that also worked as a DJ later (possibly on Adelaide radio)?
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I was the same. Could never master the drop, especially not on the run but I was pretty good at torps, bending them right to left.
 

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