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And Clubber Lang knocked him out in their first matchHe also lost to Appollo in the secret re-match.
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And Clubber Lang knocked him out in their first matchHe also lost to Appollo in the secret re-match.
The initial Rocky was always about going the distance, just proving that he was worthy to be in the same ring as Apollo Creed. They lost that in the middle, but came back to it in Balboa & CreedWhat matters is he lost the important fights, his speech in Balboa about life not being about how hard you hit summed up the series so well and Rocky would have been a much lesser movie had it finished with him winning.
You completely miss the point. Rocky may lose a fight but the experience makes him win in life.What matters is he lost the important fights, his speech in Balboa about life not being about how hard you hit summed up the series so well and Rocky would have been a much lesser movie had it finished with him winning.
You completely miss the point. Rocky may lose a fight but the experience makes him win in life.
Ahh, gotcha.You may have missed the point of my posts because I think I agree with you, royboy2 said it so well when he said that Rocky was about going the distance and proving to yourself that you were worthy of being in the same ring as the 'champions'.
It was never about winning one fight it was about the idea that one day you will look back and hopefully you will be able to say you were good enough.
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This is the level of film criticism we should all strive for in this thread.
Yeah was average. Made a shit ton of money tho, I believe.Finally got around to watching Joker. Can see why people loved it, can see why people hated it. I'm more on the hate side. Was more like a series of loosely related vignettes which kind of added up to the end result depending on how much you wanted to suspend disbelief I guess. I even found myself pretty bored at times, which considering how serious it was supposed to be, doesn't say much for it.
Martin Scorcese summed up this film for me: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/01/martin-scorsese-jokerFinally got around to watching Joker. Can see why people loved it, can see why people hated it. I'm more on the hate side. Was more like a series of loosely related vignettes which kind of added up to the end result depending on how much you wanted to suspend disbelief I guess. I even found myself pretty bored at times, which considering how serious it was supposed to be, doesn't say much for it.
Martin Scorsese, the man whose 1970s oeuvre inspired the billion-dollar hit Joker, still hasn’t seen Joker. And it appears that he’s not terribly interested in watching it, despite the fact that the Todd Phillips-directed blockbuster channels old Scorsese films like Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy in order to tell its bleak loner tale. In an interview with the New York Times, Scorsese let it be known that he’s in no rush to ever see it.
“I saw clips of it,” Scorsese said of Joker. “I know it. So it’s like, why do I need to? I get it. It’s fine.”
The plane crash scene is 10 out of 10 for me. Shame about the rest of the film. Didn't mind it that much but the romance subplot thing dragged it down a lot.Joker was an average movie raised above average by Joaquin Pheonix's performance.
I watched Flight the other night and it was the same thing, an average movie raised above average by Denzel Washington's performance.
I guess that's why they are called A listers and are paid the big bucks.
Definitely not.Is Denzel Washington underrated? I think so.
Strange to think about as he is definitely in the A-list, but it's kinda like if someone rates Dustin Martin outside the top 2 players in the AFL currently. Highly rated but still under rated.
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I kind of agree though I question whether he picks the roles that don’t stretch him or whether roles are written for him specifically cause they like him as that character.If anything I’d have Denzel as being a touch overrated for mine. He’s okay, and occasionally I’ll see the hype (Glory, Flight, Fences) but it feels like he too often just chooses crap, and for an actor considered a great his resume is pretty thin.
I think I'm in the same boat on this one. His best is outstanding, and he has the charisma and screen presence to elevate weak roles, but I wouldn't consider him one of the greats. Even one of those examples, Fences, I found him quite painful to watch in.If anything I’d have Denzel as being a touch overrated for mine. He’s okay, and occasionally I’ll see the hype (Glory, Flight, Fences) but it feels like he too often just chooses crap, and for an actor considered a great his resume is pretty thin.