When does the accepted perception of Luke Hodge change

[estibador]

Go outside and run a test for yourself tonight. Run full tilt at something (with an iPod in with some crowd noise playing), and then have someone blow a whistle at a random time. Try and a) hear the whistle (remembering that the whistle on the TV is amplified compared to what the players hear) b) recognise that the whistle might be for you, and c) stop what you're doing and pull out of hitting whatever it was that you are running full tilt at.... all in less than a second.

Lol at 'recognise the whistle might be for you'.

Hodge is a football player in the middle of a game, I'm pretty sure he knows the whistle is meant to apply to him.

 

[tige19]

What a champion Hodge is.. This much discussion is only saved for the very best!

 

[MF]

Everyone needs to calm down. All he did was try and bury a defenseless opponents head into the goal post, it's not like he threw an imaginary spear at someone.

 

[Tiger71]

Fair enough, but when he does something like this he shouldn't be defended.

Agree mate.

 

[Dr Tigris]

It looked deliberate, and very dangerous. If he gets off it is another symptom that the tribunal is off with the fairies.

 

[The Swans Blog]

Anyone that's played sports at a reasonable level know that 1 second is all you need to change what you're doing, to either:
1. reduce velocity
2. stop
3. properly brace
4. turn your body
5. brace your opponent for contact

Hodge definitely had that time, but he knew what he was going to do and had no intention of bracing.

 

[DV2000]

Luke Hodge is a dirty little f***. He literally tried to decapitate Wingard, and he nearly succeeded in his mission.

 

[MinerBoy]

Luke Hodge is a dirty little f***. He literally tried to decapitate Wingard, and he nearly succeeded in his mission.

 

[PaddleFoot]

Hodge has always had a bit of campaigner in him. It's why he's been so good for so long, and why he's been so highly rated.

He loves the physical stuff, and giving it to an opponent, and unfortunately, in a fast paced sport like AFL where things can go wrong, you have to take the good with the bad.

Well said. He did go past the ball with eyes wide open. Similar situation to some of the Lions players towards the end - Scott boys, Chris Johnson etc. They're still highly competitive, cannot abide upstarts but are just starting to discombobulate. He's clearly going to coach !

 

[DR-J]

Wingards reputation as a massive overplayer ?

Closest thing to a soccer flog in the afl

Typical defence of the guilty. Victim blaming at its best.

Hodge is and always will be a sniper, but employed by C7 so loved.

 

[sherb]

Go outside and run a test for yourself tonight. Run full tilt at something (with an iPod in with some crowd noise playing), and then have someone blow a whistle at a random time. Try and a) hear the whistle (remembering that the whistle on the TV is amplified compared to what the players hear) b) recognise that the whistle might be for you, and c) stop what you're doing and pull out of hitting whatever it was that you are running full tilt at.... all in less than a second.

It's a bloody wonder that any AFL player can hear, or react to, a whistle now that you have put it like that.

The AFL should give all umpires air-horns immediately. It's the only answer to this crisis in the game.

 

[blue harvest]

Luke Hodge is a dirty little f***. He literally tried to decapitate Wingard, and he nearly succeeded in his mission.

Do you actually know what literally means?
And it's triple premiership dirty little f*** to you.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Most players do things that are a danger to opposition players. Such is the nature of our great game. People get hurt. I remember Jarrod Harbrow in Bulldog colours showing Jordan Lewis absolutely no duty of care when Lewis was caught in a vulnerable situation. He jumped up into him and smashed his hip straight into Lewis's head and knocked him into next week. Nobody said a word about it (other than courageous play from Lewis.)

I reckon if Hodge or Lewis did the same thing as Harbrow did, people would probably be calling for a six match suspension.

False.

Hodge received a jacked-up 3 match suspension and people in the media were calling for 4 or 5 matches.
I didn't hear anyone pleading for leniency.

False.

Wingard was inside the goal line and was shaping to run around and snap a goal when Hodge pursued him. Not sure whether either player heard the whistle or whether Wingard was trying to play on under the advantage rule. Either way, you're wrong to suggest that Hodge was the only guy to keep playing after the whistle. He had every right to stop Wingard from bringing the ball back in play.

This was not even remotely similar to the Neil Sachse incident. Sachse had his head down at a dangerous angle and collided heavily with a player coming in from the opposite direction - the forces would've been much, much greater and his head & neck were in precisely the vulnerable position that doctors warn us about. Like diving into shallow water and hitting your head on the bottom - forceful impact to the top of the skull which creates a concertina effect on the neck vertebrae.

It's a pity nobody in the media has thought to interview Wingard and ask him how he pulled up, and whether he needed physio for a sore neck. Instead we get the usual hollow editorial opinions on Twitter where everything thinks they are the MRP.

No, they're not. It's fairly divided, but most in the media have estimated he'll get 2-3 weeks.

I still can't work out why Hodge should get 2-3 weeks for the potential to cause injury, when we've seen Cooney, Franklin and Richard all receive one match suspensions for blatant head bumps that had no excuses whatsoever and caused actual harm to the victim.

The public are mostly morons who base their opinion around repeated views of a heavily-edited, slow-motion replay. They show Wingard almost stationary up against the post, head sticking out, with Hodge's evil eyes fixed on his victim as he closes in and delivers the coup de grace. In reality, this incident was almost "blink and you miss it" type of stuff. Everyone had to watch it again in slow-motion just to see what happened.

I laugh at how easily people are manipulated by the media.

Hodge is a definitely a hard bastard and a mongrel, no two ways about that, but forearm jolt he gave Swallow was the only incident in recent years that I would describe as a thug act. Even then, he didn't follow through. It wasn't a heavy hit. He landed it on Swallow's jaw, but he didn't drive through and knock Swallow out or break his face. Worthy of the 3 match suspension, but not in the same class as the punch Brent Staker copped from Barry Hall.

Well obviously that's not quite true. I keep hearing all these non-Hawk fans saying how much they love Hodge, would love to have him on their team, a man's man, a footballer's footballer, a top bloke, a great fella, wank, wank, etc. This seems to be the overriding theme of the discussion. Hodge's critics complain about him being a sniper with sarcastic references to all of the above.

That's the beauty of football. We all have different opinions. Luke Hodge has the runs on the board, so it probably doesn't matter how any of the mouth-breathers choose to remember him.

• Captain of Hawthorn FC: 2011-2015
• 3× Premiership Player: (2008, 2013, 2014)
• 2x Norm Smith Medal: (2008, 2014)
• 3× All-Australian: (2005, 2008, 2010)
• 2× Peter Crimmins Medal: (2005, 2010)
• International Rules Series: (2005, 2014)
• AFLPA Best Captain Award: (2014)
• Jim Stynes medallist: (2014)
• All Australian captain (2010)
• AFLPA Robert Rose Award for the most courageous player in the AFL (2010)

Thanks for your opinions, Mrs Hodge.

Unfortunately, your son is running out of credits - as the title of this thread suggests.

Sure, he'll always be a legend to Hawks supporters, but to most others his rep has worked it's way down this season.
Given the way he goes about it, that shouldn't be surprising.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

And you know this HOW PRECISELY?....A perfect exemplar of hyperbole 101.

He's been to the Miner Boy school of mind reading.

 

[Milanista28]

Hodgey is just a tough old fashioned footballer and a ripping bloke, She'll be right.

Get F*****!!

 

[Kummerspeck]

Everyone needs to calm down. All he did was try and bury a defenseless opponents head into the goal post, it's not like he threw an imaginary spear at someone.

Has this thread had more posts than the time Goodes put his leg in front of Gibson's yet?

 

[sherb]

Awesome post

And from a Swans supporter!

Whoever would have thought?

 

[MinerBoy]

He's been to the Miner Boy school of mind reading.

You made it quite clear you knew what his intention was. I'm sorry that it upset you that you got called out on that.

Highly amusing that you've had to continually run with that line though. A mind reader and a repetitive parrot. Squawk.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

I'd booooooooourns hodge all day, absolute flog.

You must be racist then !!!

 

[Lester Burnham]

And from a Swans supporter!

Whoever would have thought?

The Hawk's supporters arguments are so lacking in merit they have to pretend to be Swans fans to gain some credibility.

 

[Gongswan]

Has this thread had more posts than the time Goodes put his leg in front of Gibson's yet?

Pfffft, Hodge isn't Goodes by any stretch of the Big Footy imagination. Adam gets more pages for being boo'd

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

Do you actually know what literally means?
And it's triple premiership dirty little f*** to you.

And what would you be saying if he broke Wingards neck??

 

[GetDimmaBack]

You made it quite clear you knew what his intention was. I'm sorry that it upset you that you got called out on that.

Highly amusing that you've had to continually run with that line though. A mind reader and a repetitive parrot. Squawk.

See, you said what you thought Hodgey was thinking, but when others disagreed they were all mind readers.
Seems like you are the only one who's entitled to know what he was doing and why.
That's why there were several posts having a crack at you for your mind reading accusations for other posters.

Just like Hodge, seems there's one rule for you (you know what his intention was) and then there's criticism for those who disagree.

You said it. You brought it up (just like I will if Hodge gets off).

Squawk, little dreamer. Your bias is blind.

 

[Gongswan]

Everyone needs to calm down. All he did was try and bury a defenseless opponents head into the goal post, it's not like he threw an imaginary spear at someone.

end thread

 

[Back One Out]

Instead of all getting on the bandwagon and saying he deliberately did it, check it out in slow mo a couple of times.
1- the ball is in play (if chad pulls up and goes around hodge, advantage would have been called). chad wingard is one of the quickest sharpest players in the game. hodge would have been wanting to force him over the line.
2- hodge was always going the bump, and got him in the head, so he will get something. but its only the last split second that Wingard turns towards Hodge to avoid the post and puts is own head in danger. this will be taken into account.

I have no doubt Hodge will get a week or two as he chose to bump and got him in the head.
But to all you flogs who think he deliberately tried to get him the head against the post, watch it in normal time from the time wingard lowers his head down. Hodge was always going the bump, but his mind was made up well before Wingard brought his head town to hip level.
There isnt a person on the planet that could change their mind, motion, pull out etc in the time frame Hodge had.

Oh, but you should see the malevolent look in Hodge's eyes in those photos they published..