Which team out of Adelaide, North and Hawthorn has the better youth?

[Sphynx]

So based on this stat LDU IS also 9.1% CC/CBA.

And that's not even Nash's Role!

So what's your point?

My point? You were the one who accused me of making up stats and I sent you a link.

Your lobotomy playing up again? It’s like the stuff you completely overlook on the Politics board

 

[grumbleguts]

So you still think Amon is an inside midfielder because he attends the occasional centre bounce.

Funny stuff.

Can you not read?

Some advice: If your IQ ever hits 60, sell.

 

[Roby]

My point? You were the one who accused me of making up stats and I sent you a link.

Your lobotomy playing up again? It’s like the stuff you completely overlook on the Politics board

Ad-honemines when you can't respond to the question.

On the SRP I noticed you did not have the ability to reply to any of my posts. Even though I replied to yours.

I'll give you an opportunity again to answer the question.

What is your point that Nash is 9.1% CC/CBA when LDU IS also 9.1%.

 

[Roby]

Ask neutrals who out of the Crows & Hawks have better ball movement & higher skill level.

Did you miss our 3rd quarter against the Pies last week?

Again if the Hawks are so awesome, why the heck are they not in the top 8?

Neutrals? Would you say David King, Huddo, Leigh Montagna, Whateley, Jonathan Brown and Buckley are neutrals? They seem glowing of Hawthorn's ball movement.

You're acting like Adelaide is some world beater compared to Hawthorn when you're only 3 games ahead. I'm sorry you're not very good at maths but the equation of swapping Walker for Koschitzke should be a simple one. Unless you think they're similar valued players.

You only have to look at one game in the Hawks v Adelaide to see if we had Walker we win that game and Adelaide is only 4 points ahead of Hawthorn and that's if Walker just played one game for us.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Neutrals? Would say David King, Hydro, Leigh Montagna, Whateley, Jonathan Brown and Buckley are neutrals? They seem glowing of Hawthorn's ball movement.

You're acting like Adelaide is some world beater compared to Hawthorn when you're only 3 games ahead. I'm sorry you're not very good at maths but the equation of swapping Walker for Koschitzke should be a simple one. Unless you think they're similar valued players.

You only have to look at one game in the Hawks v Adelaide to see if we had Walker we run that game and Adelaide is only 4 points ahead of Hawthorn and that's if Walker just played one game for us.

I don't recall the Hawks game being called the game of the round last week or any of these commentators raving about the Hawks over the Crows...

Why Buckley is so taken by the Crows and why Dawson shapes as one of the club’s greatest recruits

Exciting times ahead at Adelaide.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Dewyyyyy]

I have discussed with you before about how clearances are not the only metric for valuing the midfield.

Anyway, hawthorn's youth is not better than Adelaide's. Even if we say that hawthorn's midfield is ahead for now, Adelaide has the better forward line and the Crows defensive youth has gone past the hawks'

No

And clearances and contested ball is most of the midfielders job.

If you watch our games you’d know our midfield is a strength whilst yours for the most part isn’t.

And I proved we were damaging with the other stats I posted.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Given all these high rankings by the Hawks it's a bloody mystery why they are not in the top 8 like the Crows.

It's one thing to get the ball, but it's another thing entirely to use it well...

We are 3-2 in this time of the bottom stats. We would’ve been 5-6 had Lewis/Day not missed games and our % would’ve been better. We would be on about 8 wins.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

We are 3-2 in this time of the bottom stats. We would’ve been 5-6 had Lewis/Day not missed games and our % would’ve been better. We would be on about 8 wins.

Honesty, the Hawks are ahead of where most pundits, including myself had them pre-season.

But the rest is coulda shoulda woulda...

Could say the same about the Crows if we kicked straighter in some games or didn't get a raw deal from umpires... but it is what it is.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

No

And clearances and contested ball is most of the midfielders job.

If you watch our games you’d know our midfield is a strength whilst yours for the most part isn’t.

And I proved we were damaging with the other stats I posted.

That’s the first part, to get the ball the second part is to get the ball into dangerous positions

Crows have better inside 50 and metres gained differential

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Honesty, the Hawks are ahead of where most pundits, including myself had them pre-season.

But the rest is coulda shoulda woulda...

Could say the same about the Crows if we kicked straighter in some games or didn't get a raw deal from umpires... but it is what it is.

We were the better side against you & GWS but without Mitch Lewis & Will Day, two of our most important and best performing players for the year, we lost. We lost within the last 2 minutes. These can be coulda/woulda/shoulda. But it's more likely than not.

We are than 3-2 in our last 5. Sicily's impact is clear.

8 wins puts us currently in 5th - 7th.

Kinda funny.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

That’s the first part, to get the ball the second part is to get the ball into dangerous positions

Crows have better inside 50 and metres gained differential

Over the last month in particular. (Stat prior to the Gold Coast game, so slightly off)

The Hawks have been the Number 1 scoring team in the league, Rank Second for turnover score differential and Fourth from clearance score differential. Hawthorn are also the Number 1 contested possessions side in the league and the highest-ranked team in terms of efficient ball movement from defensive 50 to offensive 50.

 

[smish]

Could someone summarise for me the recent shitfight?

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Counting only one month doesn’t seem that meaningful in the context of a whole season

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

We were the better side against you & GWS but without Mitch Lewis & Will Day, two of our most important and best performing players for the year, we lost. We lost within the last 2 minutes. These can be coulda/woulda/shoulda. But it's more likely than not.

We are than 3-2 in our last 5. Sicily's impact is clear.

8 wins puts us currently in 5th - 7th.

Kinda funny.

Lol the crows had more clearances, more contested possessions, more inside 50’s and more scoring shots, but you think you were the better team?

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Lol the crows had more clearances, more contested possessions, more inside 50’s and more scoring shots, but you think you were the better team?

Yes. We led the game all day and we were up 2-3 goals with not long left.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

the context is you Brought up Amon unprompted, when the post you replied to was talking about youth.

You only admitted he was too old, after I mentioned he shouldn't be part of the discussion.

you then made another half dozen posts about about him because you couldn't resist trying to boast about hawthorn's off-season when it didn't belong int he thread

Bullshit I did.
I brought Amon up in the context of him Meek and Stephens being list additions while keeping our first rounder.

Do they teach comprehension in SA?

 

[VinnieB]

Could someone summarise for me the recent shitfight?

2 dwarves having a mud wrestle

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Bullshit I did.
I brought Amon up in the context of him Meek and Stephens being list additions while keeping our first rounder.

Do they teach comprehension in SA?

You don’t know the meaning of the word, you can go back and check

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Yes. We led the game all day and we were up 2-3 goals with not long left.

Lol you did not lead all day. The crows were in front at the end of every quarter.

Being in front with 5 minutes to go doesn’t mean much, when the stat sheet suggests that you were lucky to be in front, and the better team rightfully won.

 

[VinnieB]

We were the better side against you & GWS but without Mitch Lewis & Will Day, two of our most important and best performing players for the year, we lost. We lost within the last 2 minutes. These can be coulda/woulda/shoulda. But it's more likely than not.

We are than 3-2 in our last 5. Sicily's impact is clear.

8 wins puts us currently in 5th - 7th.

Kinda funny.

With a % of a little over 75%. Doubt we would have ever seen a top 8 team with that %.

Hawks are probably doing better than expected, but Adelaide are so far ahead of them there's no comparison.

With some luck, they could be challenging top 4. They haven't had the catastrophic losses the Hawks have had. Last week a prime example. You had your best forward line and only scored 5.4.34. Or 2.3.15 to 12.17.89 after quarter time. You were lucky GC didn't kick straight.

And that's not the only game the Hawks have been smashed. Adelaide on the other hand hasn't been pulverised in games.

So don't kid yourself where you are at right now in comparison to Adelaide. That's 'kinda funny'.

 

[Roby]

Sphynx still waiting on why Nash winning 9.1% CC/CBA is important in assessing his prowess.

 

[Roby]

I don't recall the Hawks game being called the game of the round last week or any of these commentators raving about the Hawks over the Crows...

Why Buckley is so taken by the Crows and why Dawson shapes as one of the club’s greatest recruits

Exciting times ahead at Adelaide.

www.sen.com.au

You don't recall a lot things.

 

[Kangas_11]

With a % of a little over 75%. Doubt we would have ever seen a top 8 team with that %.

Hawks are probably doing better than expected, but Adelaide are so far ahead of them there's no comparison.

With some luck, they could be challenging top 4. They haven't had the catastrophic losses the Hawks have had. Last week a prime example. You had your best forward line and only scored 5.4.34. Or 2.3.15 to 12.17.89 after quarter time. You were lucky GC didn't kick straight.

And that's not the only game the Hawks have been smashed. Adelaide on the other hand hasn't been pulverised in games.

So don't kid yourself where you are at right now in comparison to Adelaide. That's 'kinda funny'.

It's clear this season that the gap between Hawthorns best and worst form is enormous.

Unfortunately in this thread the Hawks fans have decided to only focus on their best performances and have completely ignored their worst.

Adelaide are absolute streets ahead at the moment.

 

[Roby]

It's clear this season that the gap between Hawthorns best and worst form is enormous.

Unfortunately in this thread the Hawks fans have decided to only focus on their best performances and have completely ignored their worst.

Adelaide are absolute streets ahead at the moment.

So using that logic Hawks are practically streets ahead of North.

 

[Kangas_11]

So using that logic Hawks are practically streets ahead of North.

How do you mean?

Like I said, Hawks fans in here have been ignoring their worst performances.

Looking at 50+ point losses, the Hawks have 7, North have 3 and Adelaide have 0.

Hawthorn need to figure out how to minimize their big losses before claiming to be way ahead in their rebuild.