Which team out of Adelaide, North and Hawthorn has the better youth?

[Roby]

I disagree. The quality of Adelaide’s 22 and under is so much better than Hawthorn’s.

So much better?

What a load of crap.

You should probably stop posting soon when the Hawks move ahead of the Crows. Embarrassing.

 

[Roby]

What the hell are you rambling on about now?

I responded to a specific statement from a Hawks poster who was talking about Nash's % of clearances won.

Please go back and read it and come back to me.

You brought it up first and then won't clarify it, you're on struggle street and everyone in the forum can set it. Nash > LDU as both are the same at winning clearances but Nash does all the other hard stuff and team stuff.

 

[SSSSSS]

But seriously, Jared Polec…..?

North have been one of the worst at the trade table for a very looooong time. We owe a few beers down North way for our premiership success.

Just from Hawthorn alone.

Nathan Thompson for Pick #10 (which we on traded for #7 aka Jordan Lewis)
Jonathan Hay for Pick #18 (Premiership Ruckman Max Bailey)
Josh Gibson + Pick 69 for Pick 25 and Pick 41.
David Hale + Pick 52 for Pick 27 and 71.
Will Sierrakowski (a rookie drafted Hawthorn player who played 0 games for the Hawks) for Pick 58 (which ended up finding it's way to Freo and becoming Lachie Neale )
Jed Anderson + 38 and 40 for Pick 15 (Ryan Burton) and 55.

North have been a happy hunting ground for many clubs including ours.

They did have some absolute bangers though (to be fair everyone was ripping off Freo at the time)



Also how they turned an absolute crab in Ryan Bastinac + three shit picks into a first rounder I thought was only possible in the realm of video games.



If you want some truly grim reading it's this Fremantle Football Club drafting and trading history - Wikipedia

 

[Sphynx]

North have been one of the worst at the trade table for a very looooong time. We owe a few beers down North way for our premiership success.

Just from Hawthorn alone.

Nathan Thompson for Pick #10 (which we on traded for #7 aka Jordan Lewis)
Jonathan Hay for Pick #18 (Premiership Ruckman Max Bailey)
Josh Gibson + Pick 69 for Pick 25 and Pick 41.
David Hale + Pick 52 for Pick 27 and 71.
Will Sierrakowski (a rookie drafted Hawthorn player who played 0 games for the Hawks) for Pick 58 (which ended up finding it's way to Freo and becoming Lachie Neale )
Jed Anderson + 38 and 40 for Pick 15 (Ryan Burton) and 55.

North have been a happy hunting ground for many clubs including ours.

They did have some absolute bangers though (to be fair everyone was ripping off Freo at the time)

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Also how they turned an absolute crab in Ryan Bastinac + three s**t picks into a first rounder I thought was only possible in the realm of video games.

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If you want some truly grim reading it's this Fremantle Football Club drafting and trading history - Wikipedia

Crowing about dumping a guy and his issues on another club with serious mental health problems soon after diagnosis isn’t the best look in the modern environment tbh.

 

[SSSSSS]

Crowing about dumping a guy and his issues on another club with serious mental health problems soon after diagnosis isn’t the best look in the modern environment tbh.

It was a different time in the mental health space. IIRC Hay explicitly asked the Hawks not to disclose his mental health status to North prior to the trade. The stigma surrounding mental health was a career killer in the early to mid 2000s. North did him no favours either TBH when they forced him into retirement with little support.

Still remember him doing the job on Hird in the prelim. What a talent and what a sad ending.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Not surprising to see you’ve not comprehended what you’ve read.

Winky face.

Oh I have, Crows have far greater quality of younger talent than the Hawks & currently being proven right.

How's your prediction that Nicks would be under pressure this year as we would struggle to win many of our 1st 11 games... as you have gone all shy on this lol.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So much better?

What a load of crap.

You should probably stop posting soon when the Hawks move ahead of the Crows. Embarrassing.

Soon?

Lol, Hawks won't be passing the Crows anytime soon!

Mitchell has gone full rebuild & traded away most of you mid age players so Hawks are quite a few years away from playing finals.

Your posting is embarrassing as it's like you are ignoring the ladder!

 

[Roby]

Soon?

Lol, Hawks won't be passing the Crows anytime soon!

Mitchell has gone full rebuild & traded away most of you mid age players so Hawks are quite a few years away from playing finals.

Your posting is embarrassing as it's like you are ignoring the ladder!

I pm'ed and told you all you is start shitfights and troll. Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I pm'ed and told you all you is start shitfights and troll. Welcome to my ignore list.

Yes you felt the need to cowardly send me personal abuse by way of PM which shows your true character.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Oh I have, Crows have far greater quality of younger talent than the Hawks & currently being proven right.

How's your prediction that Nicks would be under pressure this year as we would struggle to win many of our 1st 11 games... as you have gone all shy on this lol.

Do you ever get tired of presenting arguments that were never made to troll, over and over?
We’ve already gone over it twice, and what was actually posted in that thread.
You got triggered at the mere suggestion that Adelaide might not win every home game and that Nicks could be under pressure if they didn’t start well. That was that.

You can have the Crows talent. There’s no young mids consistantly showing much at all on that list when Soligo is your great white hope, with below average disposals.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Do you ever get tired of presenting arguments that were never made to troll, over and over?
We’ve already gone over it twice, and what was actually posted in that thread.
You got triggered at the mere suggestion that Adelaide might not win every home game and that Nicks could be under pressure if they didn’t start well. That was that.

You can have the Crows talent. There’s no young mids consistantly showing much at all on that list when Soligo is your great white hope, with below average disposals.

You posted more than 100 posts on how the Crows have poor talent & how likely Nicks would get sacked with a tough 1st half of the season.

How about you own that you are a poor judge of my side & got it very wrong!

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

You posted more than 100 posts on how the Crows have poor talent & how likely Nicks would get sacked with a tough 1st half of the season.

How about you own that you are a poor judge of my side & got it very wrong!

That never happened, once again.

You are just a desperate crows nuffy, who couldn’t even handle the suggestion of a possible poor start to the year.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

That never happened, once again.

You are just a desperate crows nuffy, who couldn’t even handle the suggestion of a possible poor start to the year.

Why do you openly lie when there are hundreds of posts... when it simpler to admit you got it very, very wrong!

The only thing that didn't happen is Nicks didn't get sacked because the Crows are on the rise with their young talent.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Why do you openly lie when there are hundreds of posts... when it simpler to admit you got it very, very wrong!

The only thing that didn't happen is Nicks didn't get sacked because the Crows are on the rise with their young talent.

“You posted more than 100 posts on how the Crows have poor talent & how likely Nicks would get sacked with a tough 1st half of the season.”




Starting to think you’re a few trees short of the Forrest, or you just can’t read.

Either way, good luck with that.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Starting to think you’re a few trees short of the Forrest, or you just can’t read.
Either way, good luck with that.

Charming that you & Roby feel the need to get personal when your arguments are proven to be flawed.

 

[VinnieB]

They’re 23 and 24 and have both had interrupted years, you make it sound like their careers are over because they’ve not peaked already.


I remember you trying to tell me that there was no evidence that Hawthorn would play 2 rucks under Mitchell, despite us having done so for 15 years.

no, i said just because Hawthorn had played 2 rucks under Clarko doesn't mean Mitchell will do the same. I thought he was his own type of coach, and not one that would do simply replicate everything Clarko did. That's why I said it. But you have trouble understanding that.

So you still think Scrimshaw and Jiath are AA quality? They are both 24 with Scrimshaw approaching 25. We have seen their best and it doesn't cut it as AA.
They are no where near AA quality and have never been, despite what you spruik. But that's typical isn't it....

 

[My Tilly]

Hawks but Crows youth has been very impressive thus far.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

no, i said just because Hawthorn had played 2 rucks under Clarko doesn't mean Mitchell will do the same. I thought he was his own type of coach, and not one that would do simply replicate everything Clarko did. That's why I said it. But you have trouble understanding that.

So you still think Scrimshaw and Jiath are AA quality? They are both 24 with Scrimshaw approaching 25. They are no where near AA quality and have never been, despite what you spruik. But that's typical isn't it....

You said that about our rucks despite numerous Hawthorn posters telling you that Mitchell had already played 2 rucks and would continue to do so.


I don’t think it’s really that hard to see that Jiath and Scrimshaw are not going to be AA this year, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be. They are both very good players who’ve had injury interrupted years who’ve been down on form, and again, it’s really not hard to see that either.

 

[VinnieB]

You said that about our rucks despite numerous Hawthorn posters telling you that Mitchell had already played 2 rucks and would continue to do so.


I don’t think it’s really that hard to see that Jiath and Scrimshaw are not going to be AA this year, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be. They are both very good players who’ve had injury interrupted years who’ve been down on form, and again, it’s really not hard to see that either.

They are not that good. They will never be AA players. But you cling to that if it helps you sleep at night.

 

[Roby]

no, i said just because Hawthorn had played 2 rucks under Clarko doesn't mean Mitchell will do the same. I thought he was his own type of coach, and not one that would do simply replicate everything Clarko did. That's why I said it. But you have trouble understanding that.

So you still think Scrimshaw and Jiath are AA quality? They are both 24 with Scrimshaw approaching 25. We have seen their best and it doesn't cut it as AA.
They are no where near AA quality and have never been, despite what you spruik. But that's typical isn't it....

CJ will make you eat your words, again.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

look obviously you were upset about being overrun, after leading late, but you're now gaslighting yourself into believing you were the better team. You thinking you lead for most of the day is evidence of this, and the Crows were in front at HT too

hawthorn played well that day, above your standard for the season, and the crows wwere having a mediocre day, weren't playing at their best, but the Crows were objectively the better team.

Also t

You were barely infront, anyone who watched the game knew our pressure was better and was a reason for your lack of skills and ability to make use of your contest work. We prayed on it and were better in that sense. We led most if not all of the last term. Without two of our best players and our biggest structure piece at FF.

We weren’t playing at our best

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

You were barely infront, anyone who watched the game knew our pressure was better and was a reason for your lack of skills and ability to make use of your contest work. We prayed on it and were better in that sense. We led most if not all of the last term. Without two of our best players and our biggest structure piece at FF.

We weren’t playing at our best

Sure mate, whatever makes you feel better.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Crows youth is better currently on output based on a few more matches under their belt. Give me a midfield of Will Day, Jai Newcombe, Josh Ward, Connor Mcdonald and Cam Mackenzie in 2 years anyday of the week though. Worpel will be a solid 6-7th option by than. We need DGB to come through as a key back and need another Key forward but we're building nicely IMO. Still going to have some poor performances like last week but not overly concerned long term.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

“You posted more than 100 posts on how the Crows have poor talent & how likely Nicks would get sacked with a tough 1st half of the season.”

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Starting to think you’re a few trees short of the Forrest, or you just can’t read.

Either way, good luck with that.

Nice edit.

If only you posted in just 1 thread!

We were not born yesterday...

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Nice edit.

If only you posted in just 1 thread!

We were not born yesterday...

I think you might have been, because it’s just more lies from you.
You just keep doubling down on things that didn’t happen.

Go see if you can find another 74 posts before the season started, anywhere, where I ever stated that Nicks would lose his job.

Once again, it never happened.

You just got triggered by a single post in the “next coach sacked” thread where it was suggested that a poor start could be trouble for the unconctracted Nicks, and you’ve carried on about it ever since.