Which team out of Adelaide, North and Hawthorn has the better youth?

[Strapping Young Lad]

I think the margins tell the story.

Adelaide beat the Hawks by 3 points. Not having Day/Mitch Lewis is cancelled out by Tassie (Crows aren't the best travelling to Tassie). Close game. Hawks could have won if we took our chances and Sicily stayed as the plus one in defence rather than going forward. Crows didn't play to their best either (I'd like to think our pressure played a part in it but they certainly looked 5% off). I think if we play that game 10 times in a row I'd still say the Crows win 7 times to the 3 to the Hawks.

Hawks the younger of the two teams but only 10-15 game average separating them.

Crows beat North by 10 goals at home.

North the older of the two teams by roughly 10-15 games.

It's pretty clear as day now that it's the Crows > Hawks >>> North.

Even more damning when it's Hawks > Crows > North in terms of how experienced of a side each respective team is putting out week in and week out. North are going with almost 30+ games worth of experience over the Hawks on any given week.

Liked the look of North's top end talent. Sheezel and Wardlaw are going to be hard top for any of the three sides but there's a whole load of trash between their best players and their worst.

Crows still being lead by the older heads in the middle.

Rankine and Rachele the only 22 and under players doing anything of note, the rest are in peripheral roles.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Crows still being lead by the older heads in the middle.

Rankine and Rachele the only 22 and under players doing anything of note, the rest are in peripheral roles.

Once again you clearly didnt watch the game or you have nfi!

Fogarty kicks a bag.
Hinge has more intercept marks than Sicily would normally have.
Worrell covers an injured Butts.
Michalanney as cool as usual.
Jones
Thilthorpe
Soligo
Pedlar
Etc

You are clearly the worst judge of the Crows on BigFooty!

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Did the Crows change their S&C team this season?

Just have been looking in tip top shape. Powerful runners across the ground and lots of strong bodies.

End of 21, takes a couple of to see the effects but younger bodies still need a couple more

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Once again you clearly didnt watch the game or you have nfi!

Fogarty kicks a bag.
Hinge has more intercept marks than Sicily would normally have.
Worrell covers an injured Butts.
Michalanney as cool as usual.
Jones
Thilthorpe
Soligo
Pedlar
Etc

You are clearly the worst judge of the Crows on BigFooty!

He probably thinks Sloane was our best player

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Once again you clearly didnt watch the game or you have nfi!

Fogarty kicks a bag.
Hinge has more intercept marks than Sicily would normally have.
Worrell covers an injured Butts.
Michalanney as cool as usual.
Jones
Thilthorpe
Soligo
Pedlar
Etc

You are clearly the worst judge of the Crows on BigFooty!

Fogarty is 22 now, is he?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Fogarty is 22 now, is he?

Is 22 old now? You used the term young!

Your trolling of the Crows has become rather boring & frankly pathetic.

 

[HairyO]

Once again you clearly didnt watch the game or you have nfi!

Fogarty kicks a bag.
Hinge has more intercept marks than Sicily would normally have.
Worrell covers an injured Butts.
Michalanney as cool as usual.
Jones
Thilthorpe
Soligo
Pedlar
Etc

You are clearly the worst judge of the Crows on BigFooty!

Without looking up Im sure at least one or 2 of those arent 22 or under.

Maybe youre the worst at counting on BigFooty?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Without looking up Im sure at least one or 2 of those arent 22 or under.

Maybe youre the worst at counting on BigFooty?

Where is there an age in the thread topic or can't you read?

Bottom line is Crows have more than 2 quality young players & only poor judges think otherwise.

 

[DowJone23]

Crows clearly have the best upside, given the quality of youth and just the sheer nature of the club. Should be contending in the next 2 years. I think Hawthorn is thereabouts but need more talent. NM are just a basket case really and shouldn't be considered in this discussion

 

[HairyO]

Where is there an age in the thread topic or can't you read?

Bottom line is Crows have more than 2 quality young players & only poor judges think otherwise.

His post said 22 and under then you mouthed off at him not knowing anything.

The AFL have a 22 and under list. Most people have a 22 and under list. 22 and under means guys in their first 3 or 4 years in the system and are near the end of growing in to their bodies - particularly the taller players.

Players in their 5th or 6th season are not "youth". Half the players careers are over by the end of their 6th season.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Without looking up Im sure at least one or 2 of those arent 22 or under.

Maybe youre the worst at counting on BigFooty?

There are 5 named 22 and under, Murray and Rachele were good too.

Jones, McHenry, Sholl and Fogarty are 23

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

His post said 22 and under then you mouthed off at him not knowing anything.

The AFL have a 22 and under list. Most people have a 22 and under list. 22 and under means guys in their first 3 or 4 years in the system and are near the end of growing in to their bodies - particularly the taller players.

Players in their 5th or 6th season are not "youth". Half the players careers are over by the end of their 6th season.

Yawn... the Crows don't just have 2 quality young players.

He's just become a persistent troll of the Crows or he is completely clueless about the Crows.

 

[Roby]

Fogarty is 22 now, is he?

Why do you think I put him on ignore. He doesn't even know his own Crows players ages!

 

[JGreezy]

Crows clearly have the best upside, given the quality of youth and just the sheer nature of the club. Should be contending in the next 2 years. I think Hawthorn is thereabouts but need more talent. NM are just a basket case really and shouldn't be considered in this discussion

North's issues aren't with the young talent. Our two best on today were 18 and 19 years old.

North's issue is barely having an AFL quality player over the age of 25. North don't have a player 26+ who would get a regular game on a competitive side.

Adelaide have Keays, Sloane, Dawson, Walker, Laird, Smith, Doedee, O'brien.

North line up an older list but thats weighed down by the low quality players who are 26+.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Why do you think I put him on ignore. He doesn't even know his own Crows players ages!

Has the worst reading and comprehension skills on the site.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Has the worst reading and comprehension skills on the site.

As opposed to the worst analytical skills on BigFooty!

 

[VinnieB]

Once again you clearly didnt watch the game or you have nfi!

Fogarty kicks a bag.
Hinge has more intercept marks than Sicily would normally have.
Worrell covers an injured Butts.
Michalanney as cool as usual.
Jones
Thilthorpe
Soligo
Pedlar
Etc

You are clearly the worst judge of the Crows on BigFooty!

He is just sore realising they have had 3 top 10 picks over the last 3 drafts and none of them are looking anything more than good, honest players at best.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

He is just sore realising they have had 3 top 10 picks over the last 3 drafts and none of them are looking anything more than good, honest players at best.

No, he honestly thinks they are all guns...

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

As opposed to the worst analytical skills on BigFooty!

Tbh I have always found you to be one of the better and more insightful posters on this forum..

Don't let anyone else needle you, stick to your guns.

 

[VinnieB]

His post said 22 and under then you mouthed off at him not knowing anything.

The AFL have a 22 and under list. Most people have a 22 and under list. 22 and under means guys in their first 3 or 4 years in the system and are near the end of growing in to their bodies - particularly the taller players.

Players in their 5th or 6th season are not "youth". Half the players careers are over by the end of their 6th season.

You Hawthorn fans love changing the goal posts to suit yourselves. Last season you were going to 24 to include Jiath, Scrimshaw and Lewis.
Now that that's not working, bringing it back to 22. Out of interest, who are these 22 and under huge talents the Hawks have that are regular contributors in one of the easiest teams to get a game at?

 

[HairyO]

You Hawthorn fans love changing the goal posts to suit yourselves. Last season you were going to 24 to include Jiath, Scrimshaw and Lewis.
Now that that's not working, bringing it back to 22. Out of interest, who are these 22 and under huge talents the Hawks have that are regular contributors in one of the easiest teams to get a game at?

Ive always said youth should be 22 and under. You wont find a single post saying otherwise.

Even the AFL's 22 and under is wrong as it allows 23 year olds.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Voted for the Crows when the thread was created as their fire power up forward is too hard to ignore. They lack a star mid but that is the easiest position to fill. The rest of their midfield is all but set and they have a good group down back.

Hard to get a read on the tanking Hawks as they don't give their kids the best chance to show their skills. It is disappointing to see a once great club try to lose games on purpose but I understand why they're doing it. Will get a clearer idea in 2024 when Mitchell shifts his tactics towards winning.

North have some ripper kids at the top but it will be interesting to see how they go developing without great leaders around them. Always the trouble if you cut too deep.

Crows are miles in front. Shut the thread.

 

[Engimal v3]

The poll says it all; nothing more to be said

 

[Golumless]

Another week where I'm left wondering what is the point of North. Just in general.

Hawks at least have the decency of showing some sort of pulse to make this thread not just an Adelaide curb stomp when it comes to how to conduct a rebuild. It's getting pretty close though.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

You Hawthorn fans love changing the goal posts to suit yourselves. Last season you were going to 24 to include Jiath, Scrimshaw and Lewis.
Now that that's not working, bringing it back to 22. Out of interest, who are these 22 and under huge talents the Hawks have that are regular contributors in one of the easiest teams to get a game at?

Apparently the Crows only have Rachele & Rankine as quality talent 22 & under.

My current top-10 ranking of Crows young talent who have played today 22 & under years of age (as at the beginning of the year).

1 Thilthorpe forward/ruck (20)
2 Rachele midfielder/forward(20)
3 Rankine forward (22)
4 Pedlar midfielder/forward (20)
5 Soligo midfielder (20)
6 Michaelanny defender (19)
7 Worrell defender (22)
8 Murray defender (22)
9 Butts defender (22)
10 McHenry midfielder (22)

Excluding Fogarty & Jones who are 23

Feel free to compare to the Roos team we played today or current Hawks side & think our top end young talent stacks up very well.

Edit - challenge Strapping Young Lad to put up his current top 10 from the Hawks line up & have independent team posters compare.