Who do we target in trade week/month?

[Cap]

would we look at David Rodan? probably on par with Pets (only older)

unhappy at Port, would be handy replacement for Knights, wouldn't be expensive.......

 

[TheLeftFist8]

would we look at David Rodan? probably on par with Pets (only older)

unhappy at Port, would be handy replacement for Knights, wouldn't be expensive.......

We could use him for at least 2 games per year...Showdown specialist

 

[TheLeftFist8]

I'm actually not sure it's his fault, he feeds of the big marking forward, Walker is more of a lead-up. When Kurt got his dis-interest on and played a crap 2nd half of the year Nutter got left hanging a bit, he does need to find another string to his bow to survive but at Jerka's feet I'm sure he'll step up again.

Too many excuses for Callinan i think. Yeah, it's easier if Tippett presents and drops lots of marks but he was relegated to 2nd best forward (as will Jenkins).

Def needs to do more, was a finals passenger. Intensity/pace of the game killed him.

 

[weneverland]

i hope we dont panic and trade because we feel we have to though.

if the right player comes along, then great. if it doesnt i'd rather keep the cash reserved for Tippett (or front end our existing contracts) then go after a big fish next free agency.

if there is any...

i'm sure we'll do well.

Posters keep suggesting this but haven't all the existing contracts been negotiated and signed already? Can the AFC go back to Roary Sloan say and say "listen, we have some spare cash next year, tear up our existing agreement and we will write out another one that is front loaded."

 

[SydCrow]

Can we add Stefan Martin to the GC/MFC Tippett/Caddy three way?

 

[Davo75]

I would love to see the Crows draft a gun SANFL player around 25 years of age on the cheap that could play in our 22, surely there must be some descent KPD running around in the SANFL??

Not a KPD, but Jaryd Cachia is a gun!

 

[Bob Neil]

Patfull won the Lions B&F this season, he is a very solid player and criminally underrated. The Lions won't give him up, but he commands respect. Even made Sheehan's top 50 at the end of the season.

I guess I stand corrected...TBH I'd never rated him but perhaps I'm going on past form and this year he has stepped his performances. Still don't think he's the age profile that we'd be after.

 

[Vader]

I'm on board with both those moves. Callinan should be kept, but not a walk up start each week. Monfries I like too, but only give him the usual 3 years.

The problem with this is that his utility as a "depth player" is almost zero while he's on the rookie list. In 2011 we had an abundance of long term injuries which enabled us to promote him to the senior list. In 2012 we were able to promote him as a "nominated rookie", as we only had one player on the veteran list. Going into 2013 we don't have any players on the LTI list and it's likely that we'll have a full roster of veterans, leaving no options for promoting Callinan onto the senior list.

If he's not on the senior list, then he's not eligible for AFL selection. If he's not eligible for selection, then his value as a "depth player" is essentially zero.

 

[Vader]

Do you think another club might offer Callinan a spot on their senior list? I'm thinking Melbourne, GWS or even Port? He's not ours to keep on the rookie list if another club drafts him onto their senior list. I don't think that'll happen as Callinan will back himself in to once again be upgraded next year and play some games. Was very handy this year, despite going missing when it mattered (the finals).

They can't "draft him onto their senior list". They can trade for him, in which case he is automatically promoted to their senior list. If nobody seeks a trade, then we can indeed leave him on our rookie list if we choose to do so (though I would debate the wisdom of this course of action).

 

[Mismatched]

The problem with this is that his utility as a "depth player" is almost zero while he's on the rookie list. In 2011 we had an abundance of long term injuries which enabled us to promote him to the senior list. In 2012 we were able to promote him as a "nominated rookie", as we only had one player on the veteran list. Going into 2013 we don't have any players on the LTI list and it's likely that we'll have a full roster of veterans, leaving no options for promoting Callinan onto the senior list.

If he's not on the senior list, then he's not eligible for AFL selection. If he's not eligible for selection, then his value as a "depth player" is essentially zero.

Theory would be though if he's actually required to play, chances are we would have at least one player on the LTI and by halfway through the season he'd be available to play anyway, so we wouldn't have to wait too long.

Personally I loved what he was able to do across the season, but when our season was on the line in finals, he just wasn't able to keep up with the pace and intensity and make a genuine impact. On the odd occasion he did find the footy he wasn't too bad and did some clever things, but to expect any sort of improvement next year is folly.

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Stefan Martin would be a handy back up ruckman

 

[Vader]

Theory would be though if he's actually required to play, chances are we would have at least one player on the LTI and by halfway through the season he'd be available to play anyway, so we wouldn't have to wait too long.

Statistically 2012 was an unusual year, in that not one of our senior listed players suffered a long term injury. We can't reasonably expect that trend to be repeated in 2013. By the same token, neither can we afford to rely on an LTI happening at a convenient time. The mid-season freebie doesn't come into effect until R12 and I would hope that this option might be reserved for a young & developing player.

Personally I loved what he was able to do across the season, but when our season was on the line in finals, he just wasn't able to keep up with the pace and intensity and make a genuine impact. On the odd occasion he did find the footy he wasn't too bad and did some clever things, but to expect any sort of improvement next year is folly.

What you're stating here is a case that he should either be promoted, or delisted. I agree. I think leaving him in the half-way house for a 3rd year would almost constitute cruel & unusual punishment.

 

[fabs33]

Posters keep suggesting this but haven't all the existing contracts been negotiated and signed already? Can the AFC go back to Roary Sloan say and say "listen, we have some spare cash next year, tear up our existing agreement and we will write out another one that is front loaded."

I don't see any problem as long as all parties involved agree to it.

 

[Brassy88]

Who is Scott Clouston theirs an article that says were interested in him. Need for info on him? Is he worth drafting? He is also 25.

 

[Chief Crow]

Who is Scott Clouston theirs an article that says were interested in him. Need for info on him? Is he worth drafting? He is also 25.

Quick search
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-brisbane-lions--scott-clouston

Scott Clouston
Last played for Brisbane Lions in 2008
Games: 2 Born: February 2, 1987
Playing Height: 194cm Playing Weight: 93kg Position: Defender
Last Drafted: Round 2, Pick #20 2006 Rookie Draft

 

[Team DJ]

I dont want either Callinan or Monfries for next year.

I would rather give Lyons and even Crouch a gig in that role. Also in the draft i would be looking at a couple of speedy mid/small forwards that could do that role too.

 

[SydCrow]

Quick search
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-brisbane-lions--scott-clouston

Scott Clouston
Last played for Brisbane Lions in 2008
Games: 2 Born: February 2, 1987
Playing Height: 194cm Playing Weight: 93kg Position: Defender
Last Drafted: Round 2, Pick #20 2006 Rookie Draft

very ordinary numbers and he is being promoted by and managed by Kurt's manager

 

[Carmo]

I'll go on record here, it would be premature to delist Callinan, same with Tambling too. Callinan needs another half a season to show his wares. Tambling needs to get in to the first 22 and then cement his spot.

If both fail then next year will be the year to delist them, too much of a risk this year, don't do a melb and count the form of young players before theyve finished hatching. Plenty of good young players still to give a games too, no need to trim too hard this year.

 

[SydCrow]

I can't believe we would cut Callinan.

Tambo on the other hand must be at risk.

 

[OrdinaryJoel]

They wont give us 2 anyway its more likely he will go to SYdn

We'll have to wait and see I guess...

 

[headache1]

Any interest in Tom Gillies from Geelong? Cats rumoured to be heavily into Rivers from the D's, which could see Gillies look elsewhere for opportunity. Have only seen him play once or twice, but looks quite good.

 

[Lawrst]

Monfries > Douglas (just)

Dougy is on a long contract, needs to be traded for him to have a chance on our list.

Not a need of ours tho, wont happen (i hope)

 

[BigLefty]

Posters keep suggesting this but haven't all the existing contracts been negotiated and signed already? Can the AFC go back to Roary Sloan say and say "listen, we have some spare cash next year, tear up our existing agreement and we will write out another one that is front loaded."

i dont know for certain, but i cant think of a reason why not. i see it as no different to Tippett signing on last time round, where we tore up his old contract and renegotiated it a year earlier than it was due to expire.

 

[FR0GGY]

i dont know for certain, but i cant think of a reason why not. i see it as no different to Tippett signing on last time round, where we tore up his old contract and renegotiated it a year earlier than it was due to expire.

Do they actually get the cash accoring to their contract? ie heavily front loaded contract, do they get all that money in the first year? Also how do they work to a salary cap when there are performance based contracts? Do they have to assume that these will all be maxed out? or do they take a risk that some wont.

 

[Truck25]

Too many excuses for Callinan i think. Yeah, it's easier if Tippett presents and drops lots of marks but he was relegated to 2nd best forward (as will Jenkins).

Def needs to do more, was a finals passenger. Intensity/pace of the game killed him.

Don't think it was the pace or intensity but more of being comfortable in his role, when that changed he didn't react and change with his role. He expected like many that Titbit would find his mojo and it would be all good. What he needed to do was find plan B and redefine his role. I'm sure Sando will sort him out in the off season and he'll fix it. He's worked to hard to get his spot just to let it go.