Coach Who Should Our Next Coach Be (Poll Updated)

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Jesus. Destabilising Ed trying to get his mates in back to his old tricks?

You trying to tell me he knows Lyon will get a call from Carlton but he doesn’t know Collingwood had reached out and Lyon said no? So he raises the topic and when Lyon doesn’t do enough he backs over it again to fulfill his own need and get a comment.

For what it’s worth, I don’t want Lyon, but Jesus we need that man off the airwaves

His motor mouth is a disaster.

 

[sr36]

Has a track record of getting teams into GrandFinals (lost one by a bounce).
Most ex players…big wraps on him.
Will get Carlton into finals…maybe not 2022…but 2023 I’m sure

The year before could have gone either way as well. 2009 was a cracking Granny

 

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It’s shameful. He’s a smart man and knows the media. He knows full well the story of that whole segment is “Lyon says no to Collingwood due to board unrest, would be different if Ed was still president”

He's certainly street smart - not sure he's intelligent.

 

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He's certainly street smart - not sure he's intelligent.

Self made millionaire so he's gotta have more going on than rat cunning, my problem with him is all that power only translated into 1 flag, I can forgive anything if you give me flags.

 

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Self made millionaire so he's gotta have more going on than rat cunning, my problem with him is all that power only translated into 1 flag, I can forgive anything if you give me flags.

He's good at babble, bluster and bullsh*t - all of which go down well in our media. Can he sustain a logical argument in discussion? .. Haven't seen much evidence.

PS - I could forgive anything for flags too.

 

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He's good at babble, bluster and bullsh*t - all of which go down well in our media. Can he sustain a logical argument in discussion? .. Haven't seen much evidence.

I think most of that is as you said bluster, he's getting something right behind closed doors, maybe it's just connections but he's had an awful lot of personal success.

 

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I think most of that is as you said bluster, he's getting something right behind closed doors, maybe it's just connections but he's had an awful lot of personal success.

If money and power are the measures... well yes.

 

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If money and power are the measures... well yes.

He's got a pretty nice family too so he's getting something right.

 

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MSN

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Ross Lyon has revealed he turned down an approach from Collingwood regarding its senior coaching position due to the current "instability" surrounding the club.

 

[swoop42]

Couldn't help thinking as I watched Footy Classified just now, and hearing Eddie's 20 club plan, that we have lost a one in a million star. Once Eddie was disposed of, the Board then moved on Bucks to save its own skin. Lyon basically ruled himself out because of those decisions. No doubt Clarko has also. Clarkson will be at Carlton next year, providing he wants to go again.

I'm hoping Clarkson says he wants a break, Carlton appoints Lyon and then Collingwood's new President, Jeff Browne, goes after and gets Clarkson.

Yes let's add 2 more teams and make it even harder for Collingwood to win the flag.
The AFL would be better served with 16 teams if anything as the talent is already being spread to thin. Honestly this kind of thinking is exactly why it was time for Ed to move on as he's grown increasingly out of touch with what the average Collingwood fan cares about and is more concerned in growing his relationships with those at AFL headquarters and the big end of town.

 

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My assumptions -

Father-son:
Peter Moore and Craig Kelly who have both endorsed Browne and have been spoken by the media as potential members of a Browne board.

Ha Ha, I thought he was talking about Callum Brown getting a game.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

MSN

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Ross Lyon has revealed he turned down an approach from Collingwood regarding its senior coaching position due to the current "instability" surrounding the club.



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Ross Lyon calling the Pies unstable....The bloke does realise Carlton in the last 9 years has gone through numerous CEO's, Football Managers and COACHES. They have had, 4 coaches in 9 years!!....and going through another review, followed by another clean out.
Good on ya Ross, go to one of the biggest sh1tfull, free falling rabble in footy history. We dodged a massive bullet with this bloke anyway. I think there would have been some players who would find it hard to connect with Lyon.

 

[Hawkboy62]

Tony Sheahan, so take it with a grain of salt.......


Collingwood’s vacant coaching position is understood to be down to these two men, while publican Paul Dimattina has revealed all on his Covid breach fine.

Tony Sheahan

4 min read
August 15, 2021 - 8:00AM
Sunday Herald Sun

Richmond’s highly touted Craig McCrae is understood to be a late inclusion on the shortlist for Collingwood coach. Picture: Getty Images

Collingwood’s vacant coaching position is believed to be down to a final two.
Sydney Swans assistant and former Adelaide Crows coach Don Pyke is understood to be the frontrunner with Richmond’s highly touted Craig McCrae a late inclusion seriously vying for the role.
Pyke is said to have interviewed very well while McCrae’s record speaks for itself.

Well researched piece. Macrae is a current Hawthorn assistant, forwards.

 

[jimmy35]

So just to be clear, Ross Lyon was unhappy at the way Collingwood treated Nathan Buckley (after 9 and a half seasons) but is happy to go on a 5 minute spiel RE the Carlton Job which doesn't have a vacancy and if it does would be replacing a coach who has had 2 and a half seasons in the chair?

Sounds like Lyon is sign, sealed and delivered at Carlton and turned us down for that reason.

Never put your hand up for a job you’re not going to get.

 

[manicpie]

So both Lyon and Clarkson have rejected the job. that in itself is a real concern.

 

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So far we know of Mitchell and Lyon pulling out as candidates. The media will lead us to believe that 2 potential coaches have rejected us, sure, but there's nothing publicly to say that they even made our short-list, let alone made it any further than that.

Still hoping like hell Clarkson is coming. Clarko seems like the type of bloke who'd much rather go out on good terms with Hawthorn and then declare his intentions.

 

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So both Lyon and Clarkson have rejected the job. that in itself is a real concern.

Where did Clarkson actually reject the job?

 

[MagpieJoel]

Lyon doesn’t wanna come due to instability Clarko isn’t going to Carlton Ross has got the job

Isn't the same thing happening at Carlton? And they've been unstable for years.

 

[frizzle]

I knew you'd be unable to resist JB. The reality is that neither Clarkson nor Lyon was ever coming to Collingwood given its divisions. As Lyon so spectacularly pointed out tonight, if Ed had been president he'd be interested. Suspect it would be the same if Browne were president. Lyon has spoken positively of Browne previously. Unfortunately, the current bunch of amateurs on our Board has ensured we get the third or fourth choice as coach.

Once the dust has settled, I think we'll find out exactly how and why Bucks was sacked. It was very much a political decision, as was Eddie's.

‘Yep we just didn’t give Bucks a fair go. 10 years just isn’t enough time. He should have been given the job of rebuilding again so we can see after 15 years if he is the man for the job. /sarcasm

I bet Teague would have loved 10 years at Carlton to see if he could coach to a flag. They dump coaches far quicker than we do. So good luck Ross.
The only instability we have at the moment is around Browne. Who has shown us absolutely nothing so far. The red flags for me is he will be Ed mark II.
I couldn’t care less if Korda stays on or not. But your petulance towards him in most of your posts these days is tiring. You have very few in agreement with you on this board I believe.

 

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‘Yep we just didn’t give Bucks a fair go. 10 years just isn’t enough time. He should have been given the job of rebuilding again so we can see after 15 years if he is the man for the job.

I just wish he'd been supported by list management instead of 8 x 1st round draft picks wasted for not a single player left on the list.

Then there's the whole Gubby debacle signing up aging injured players on monster contracts for the icing on the premiership 'pie'. And what did they blow on Aish after that? or how about that Beamsy deal? what a ripsnorter that was!
Shit do we even need to bother with Ned Guy? The window was destroyed long before he got the gig, hey you know why his name is Guy? Because he's the fall guy.

It's a ****en miracle Bucks got us within a cheating WA ump of a flag.

 

[manicpie]

Where did Clarkson actually reject the job?

Well he hasn't even been interviewed so we can assume he's not interested

 

[frizzle]

I just wish he'd been supported by list management instead of 8 x 1st round draft picks wasted for not a single player left on the list.

Then there's the whole Gubby debacle signing up aging injured players on monster contracts for the icing on the premiership 'pie'. And what did they blow on Aish after that? or how about that Beamsy deal? what a ripsnorter that was!
sh*t do we even need to bother with Ned Guy? The window was destroyed long before he got the gig, hey you know why his name is Guy? Because he's the fall guy.

It's a fu**en miracle Bucks got us within a cheating WA ump of a flag.

I doubt any of Wells, Greenwood or Beams were not agreed to by the coach. Gubby was brought in by Ed & we lost Balme because of it. Meanwhile Gubby stuffed everything he touched. Nobody was held responsible for that stuff up either. Ned just kept backending deals that were eventually going to cripple us & overpaid both our own players & paid above market rates bringing in players, yet getting stuff all for outgoing players. There has not been one single deal during the Ned years where I thought we did well.

 

[Buckleys_Chance]

From this section of the interview I get the impression that Caro thinks Collingwood still have Clarkson as first choice…

“RL: I don’t think Graham Wright would mind, he reached out to a friend to get my number and I was aware and just said respectfully I wouldn’t entertain that for a variety of reasons.

CW: What are those reasons?

RL: It’s hard to articulate. Sometimes it’s just sometimes just chemistry.

CW: I think you‘re saying that you think you’re maybe second choice behind Alastair Clarkson

RL: Yeah and I’ve said if I was the Carlton board and I could get Alastair Clarkson I don‘t think you could go past that. If the measure is premiership cups well there is no decision is there? Sometimes it’s chemistry. If you get a headhunter ring you and you go and meet them and you go for the job, if you haven’t got that chemistry, that happens pretty quick, well it doesn’t happen or it shouldn’t happen. If Ed was president of Collingwood it’d be a different story.

CW: So is it partly because you think there‘s a bit of unrest ...”

And Lyon tries to change the topic. Did anyone else notice this? Is Caro saying second choice at Collingwood or Carlton? I thought she suggests Collingwood in this comment. Maybe I’m just being hopeful.


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I doubt any of Wells, Greenwood or Beams were not agreed to by the coach. Gubby was brought in by Ed & we lost Balme because of it. Meanwhile Gubby stuffed everything he touched. Nobody was held responsible for that stuff up either. Ned just kept backending deals that were eventually going to cripple us & overpaid both our own players & paid above market rates bringing in players, yet getting stuff all for outgoing players. There has not been one single deal during the Ned years where I thought we did well.

Nah that's crap, Buckley even expressed surprise at the amount they got in one interview long after the fact, coaching is a fulltime professional job, even if those off field departments didn't run autonomously he wouldn't (and shouldn't) have the time, he would only have been advising them on the type of player to round out the list, but he doesn't write the cheques and he's not the recruiter, those are also fulltime professional jobs. I'm amazed at how he is vilified while the real culprits are barely mentioned, it's insane.

 

[jimmy35]

From this section of the interview I get the impression that Caro thinks Collingwood still have Clarkson as first choice…

“RL: I don’t think Graham Wright would mind, he reached out to a friend to get my number and I was aware and just said respectfully I wouldn’t entertain that for a variety of reasons.

CW: What are those reasons?

RL: It’s hard to articulate. Sometimes it’s just sometimes just chemistry.

CW: I think you‘re saying that you think you’re maybe second choice behind Alastair Clarkson

RL: Yeah and I’ve said if I was the Carlton board and I could get Alastair Clarkson I don‘t think you could go past that. If the measure is premiership cups well there is no decision is there? Sometimes it’s chemistry. If you get a headhunter ring you and you go and meet them and you go for the job, if you haven’t got that chemistry, that happens pretty quick, well it doesn’t happen or it shouldn’t happen. If Ed was president of Collingwood it’d be a different story.

CW: So is it partly because you think there‘s a bit of unrest ...”

And Lyon tries to change the topic. Did anyone else notice this? Is Caro saying second choice at Collingwood or Carlton? I thought she suggests Collingwood in this comment. Maybe I’m just being hopeful.


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Wrighty ‘may’ have wanted to reach out and touch base with Lyon re the Pies job, negligent if he didn’t, Lyon saying ‘not interested for a variety of reasons’ is not wanting to tarnish the brand and to be seen throwing his hat into the ring with it being thrown back out again I suspect.