Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 2

[Irish BlueBagger]

If we can't beat this crowd of over the hill has-beens, then we may as well pack it in altogether.

The Hawks game the following week is the one i'm more worried about.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

The word I created for Carlton's continual failure season after season in both Home and Away and Finals series, 'The Blueshakes' is now officially part of Football folklore. It has been acknowledged by Carlton supporters on the Carlton Board.

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Hmm i thought you weren't supposed to quote opposition boards on here mate.

I got a telling off myself for quoting a post from your board on this very thread. I have no issues with you quoting our board anyway.

It's just seems that the rule isn't consistently applied however.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Hmm i thought you weren't supposed to quote opposition boards on here mate.

I got a telling off myself for quoting a post from your board on here. I have no issues with you quoting our board anyway.

It's just seems that the rule isn't consistently applied however.

I didn’t quote anyone. I took a snippet from something and did not make reference to who it was. Happy to delete if it infuriates, upsets or deregulates anyone’s morning.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

I didn’t quote anyone. I took a snippet from something and did not make reference to who it was. Happy to delete if it infuriates, upsets or deregulates anyone’s morning.

No you're good mate. As long as we get a badly needed win that's the main thing.

I do fear that the ghosts and demons from the last twenty two years are not dying easily!

We're just trying to get this almost thirty year burden off our backs!

 

[South of the Yarra]

No you're good mate. As long as we get a badly needed win that's the main thing.

I do fear that the ghosts and demons from the last twenty two years are not dying easily!

We're just trying to get this almost thirty year burden off our backs!

Going to be a huge game. Will be a lot of mind games both ways. Massive ramifications for both clubs. Huge crowd. The biggest ticket in town. I am so excited to get there that I actually forgot there was a game tonight. This is why Collingwood and Carlton are the Big 2. There are no bigger clubs in the country.

 

[Fadge]

Pies are on 40 points with 4 games to play
How is it a worse defence OAT compared to Adelaide 1999 where they finished 13th in a 16 team comp and 8 wins for the season?

No, no, no.... you've got it all wrong.

When Adelaide won the 1998 premiership, Adelaide only finished fifth.

Despite Carlton posters spending the last 6 months begging for validation about Carlton really finishing 3rd (or 4th) in 2023, despite any ladder available showing us they finished in 5th place.

So the ladder at the end of the home and away season is all that matters for Carlton supporters when it suits their narrative, but the draft order is all that matters for Carlton supporters when it suits their other narrative.

 

[Arr0w]

Begging for validation, "prosperity" predictions, cute

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Isn't this from the same Collingwood fans that were furiously debating posters who didn't recognize them as back to back chances because their list was so old. The entire off season was basically Pies fans whinging on BigFooty and Twitter that opposition supporters weren't taking them seriously despite winning the flag in 2023.

Begging for validation... LMAO

 

[Fadge]

Isn't this from the same Collingwood fans that were furiously debating posters who didn't recognize them as back to back chances because their list was so old. The entire off season was basically Pies fans whinging on BigFooty and Twitter that opposition supporters weren't taking them seriously despite winning the flag in 2023.

Begging for validation... LMAO

Premiership teams don't need validation.

The Premiership Cup is all the validation that is required.

Although I'm sure a few joked that we couldn't envisage anything less than a 4peat.

 

[RCAB]

Isn't this from the same Collingwood fans that were furiously debating posters who didn't recognize them as back to back chances because their list was so old. The entire off season was basically Pies fans whinging on BigFooty and Twitter that opposition supporters weren't taking them seriously despite winning the flag in 2023.

Begging for validation... LMAO

If you lose this week...

 

[Robertio]

Blueshakes peak activity is July / August

July 2024 - Carlton went 1-3

How did the Pies go?

 

[Fadge]

How did the Pies go?

We're not the ones flittering away our best opportunity after not contending for more than two decades.

 

[Robertio]

No, no, no.... you've got it all wrong.

When Adelaide won the 1998 premiership, Adelaide only finished fifth.

Despite Carlton posters spending the last 6 months begging for validation about Carlton really finishing 3rd (or 4th) in 2023, despite any ladder available showing us they finished in 5th place.

So the ladder at the end of the home and away season is all that matters for Carlton supporters when it suits their narrative, but the draft order is all that matters for Carlton supporters when it suits their other narrative.

You of all people talking about the changing of narrative

 

[Robertio]

Premiership teams don't need validation.

The Premiership Cup is all the validation that is required.

Although I'm sure a few joked that we couldn't envisage anything less than a 4peat.

Looks like a nopeat coming up.

 

[Robertio]

We're not the ones flittering away our best opportunity after not contending for more than two decades.

Dodging another question.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

If you lose this week...

Won't matter for the Blues, the Hawks 9 flags in a row incoming. Superstars on every line!

Blues will at best be playing for second place for the next decade

 

[Arr0w]

Dodging another question.

Fadge will dodge, deflect, ignore all failed predictions and or outcomes that don't align with his cognitive bias

A boat with 1 oar

 

[doppleganger]

How did the Pies go?

You do realise you can look that up yourself?

Pies went 1-3

The point is Colliwobbles was a historical VFL term about strong Collingwood teams wobbling in September.

Blueshakes is an AFL term about Carlton sides getting the shakes when expectations increase to fall in a heap and not actually ever seriously contend.

 

[Robertio]

You do realise you can look that up yourself?

Pies went 1-3

The point is Colliwobbles was a historical VFL term about strong Collingwood teams wobbling in September.

Blueshakes is an AFL term about Carlton sides getting the shakes when expectations increase to fall in a heap and not actually ever seriously contend.

Where's Corn Cobbers didn't he make Blueshakes up?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Pies have played essendon twice. They they are genuine crap.

And lost one drawn one so not really as crap as WCe et al level

 

[Crankyhawk]

Where is this documented?

The thread question is 'who will be better', which is open to interpretation.

No, that definition makes the most sense and I think we need to draw a solid line against any other BS interpretations (including H2H)

Will lol if pies beat blues and blues drop another couple and pies finish ahead

Edit on reflection H2H would only come in as a tie break if both teams exit finals on the same week - arguably also if both out of finals on same wins (more relevant than percentage imo for purpose of thread though open to counter argument too)

 

[Worm4]

No, that definition makes the most sense and I think we need to draw a solid line against any other BS interpretations (including H2H)

Will lol if pies beat blues and blues drop another couple and pies finish ahead

Edit on reflection H2H would only come in as a tie break if both teams exit finals on the same week - arguably also if both out of finals on same wins (more relevant than percentage imo for purpose of thread though open to counter argument too)

Fadge , the gatekeeper of bigfooty threads and outcomes........

 

[Arr0w]

Where is this documented?

The thread question is 'who will be better', which is open to interpretation.

The question who is better in, 2024

 

[Cam Payne]

There's still a chance they end up separated by % only. Now that would be a tasty treat.

 

[Fadge]

No, that definition makes the most sense and I think we need to draw a solid line against any other BS interpretations (including H2H)

Will lol if pies beat blues and blues drop another couple and pies finish ahead

Edit on reflection H2H would only come in as a tie break if both teams exit finals on the same week - arguably also if both out of finals on same wins (more relevant than percentage imo for purpose of thread though open to counter argument too)

Rubbish.

If Carlton make finals (and are eliminated in week 1) by finishing a game or two ahead of Collingwood, courtesy of two additional games against the bottom two easybeats and some dubious umpiring (i.e. Dissentgate against Fremantle in Gather Round), and Carlton have either a 1:1 or 0:2 Head to Head record against Collingwood, you'd be hard up to conclude Carlton were any better than Collingwood in 2024.