Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 2

[Scritchyscroony]

Ask us how 8th spot is going since Pies are below it.

It's beautifully set up now for the final round when Carlton get knocked out of the 8 by the mighty Essington. You know it's coming!

 

[Arr0w]

On Voss or the list?

Both

I've been critical of list management over the last 4 years that we haven't addressed our list weaknesses

I've also been critical of some of Voss's tactics

But which list or coach is immune from criticism. 6 weeks ago everyone had Swans being untouchable, how does that look now

 

[docks]

And wins against the Giants, Suns, Cats, and Bombers who you have failed to beat ofc

Edit: And the Dockers!

To be fair you didn’t play GCS in QLD where they’ve only lost one game.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Lost by a kick to a team that has been nowhere all season essentially while all our prime movers are in the peak of their careers. 9 years of rebuilding for this sorta rubbish.

I thought 2022’s meltdown to end the season was bad but this pathetic run home takes the cake.

I feel your pain bro.

I thought you'd been rebuilding for 20 years though.

 

[carlton_99]

To be fair you didn’t play GCS in QLD where they’ve only lost one game.

Fair enough

 

[Arr0w]

How many first round selections have they had over this period?

Technically, as many as most side, apart from those being handed extra 1st round picks

 

[Worm4]

Oh yes, thanks for the reminder that in 2024 Collingwood are the reigning premiers!!

Not too pissed, things aint gone our way, we only got Carlton twice this year!

Knowing Collingwood we will be back in top4 again quickly.

When are you predicting Carlton will have their first top4 finish of the 21st century?

Just building nicely for the next couple of years. Thanks for asking

 

[Worm4]

How many first round selections have they had over this period?

You do realise that every team gets a first round selection, like , every year ?

 

[Worm4]

Lost by a kick to a team that has been nowhere all season essentially while all our prime movers are in the peak of their careers. 9 years of rebuilding for this sorta rubbish.

I thought 2022’s meltdown to end the season was bad but this pathetic run home takes the cake.

Its alright mate. I get it. The Pies don't like sharing the love . It happens. They probably felt the same way after Hawthorn ( continually) touched them up. We move on .

 

[Scritchyscroony]

How many first round selections have they had over this period?

Not sure. I know for a fact they've had five #1 picks in that time though.

 

[doppleganger]

Lost by a kick to a team that has been nowhere all season essentially while all our prime movers are in the peak of their careers. 9 years of rebuilding for this sorta rubbish.

I thought 2022’s meltdown to end the season was bad but this pathetic run home takes the cake.

The 2022 Blueshake was a great vintage, will be hard to top.

The 2024 Blueshake needs additional losses to Hawks and Saints to be in same class.

Who is a 2024 Blueshake believer?

 

[doppleganger]

Just building nicely for the next couple of years. Thanks for asking

Yep, 2025 looks like 2015 all over again, back when a crusty old bloke couldn't see the Blues losing a game.

 

[PP34]

The 2022 Blueshake was a great vintage, will be hard to top.

The 2024 Blueshake needs additional losses to Hawks and Saints to be in same class.

Who is a 2024 Blueshake believer?

Top 4 basically gone so worse as far as I’m concerned.

Only making finals is rubbish.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

You can't read the OP?

BTW... can you read the OP?

The current OP refers to 2023... Pies win again

 

[Arr0w]

BTW... can you read the OP?

The current OP refers to 2023... Pies win again

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I think people have acknowledged 2023, you really are insecure

 

[doppleganger]

Top 4 basically gone so worse as far as I’m concerned.

Only making finals is rubbish.

The 2024 Blueshake may still not fully mature.

Hold onto some hope, you are only 1 game behind second with 3 games to go (all three against teams below you)

This could still be Carlton's best H&A season of the 21st century.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

I think people have acknowledged 2023, you really are insecure

See... there you go playing the poster again

I was just humorously pointing out a mod OP error

#struggling

 

[Worm4]

Yep, 2025 looks like 2015 all over again, back when a crusty old bloke couldn't see the Blues losing a game.

Bloke lost his marbles between 2010 - 2015. Set us back a fair way that clown

 

[PP34]

Both

I've been critical of list management over the last 4 years that we haven't addressed our list weaknesses

I've also been critical of some of Voss's tactics

But which list or coach is immune from criticism. 6 weeks ago everyone had Swans being untouchable, how does that look now

At the time the 2023 end simply showed we still had a way to go. Made a prelim but looked well off Brisbane.

Voss and the club won back respect but for mine this year has shown that both the coaches and list aren’t up to having a complete season where we don’t have big down periods. 2022,2023 and now 2024 are all years in which we’ve played shocking football for weeks on end.

Swans fortunately won a lot of games early and maybe they are just going through a strange down period in a weird season in general with real standout.

 

[Arr0w]

See... there you go playing the poster again

I was just humorously pointing out a mod OP error

#struggling

If you think you are going to have some gotcha moment with what I've posted, you will struggle

 

[carlton_99]

Bloke lost his marbles between 2010 - 2015. Set us back a fair way that clown

Was at the game yesterday doing something on the boundary line - almost jumped the fence

 

[Corn Cobbers]

If you think you are going to have some gotcha moment with what I've posted, you will struggle

You've gotcha'd yourself we can all see that

 

[Arr0w]

At the time the 2023 end simply showed we still had a way to go. Made a prelim but looked well off Brisbane.

No side beat the Lions at home, so all sides were well off at the Gabba

Voss and the club won back respect but for mine this year has shown that both the coaches and list aren’t up to having a complete season where we don’t have big down periods.

Not really interested how we are viewed, by our own or neutrals. We have been spanked once this year, our other losses have been tight contests. Admittedly, some games felt like we were never in it

2022,2023 and now 2024 are all years in which we’ve played shocking football for weeks on end.

Not really that different to most sides, this year is a great example of poor patches for all sides

Swans fortunately won a lot of games early and maybe they are just going through a strange down period in a weird season in general with real standout.

Apart from the 2 extra wins, their season is similar to ours, struggling in the back end of the year

 

[Arr0w]

You've gotcha'd yourself we can all see that

I keep asking but no one provides evidence.

 

[Worm4]

At the time the 2023 end simply showed we still had a way to go. Made a prelim but looked well off Brisbane.

Voss and the club won back respect but for mine this year has shown that both the coaches and list aren’t up to having a complete season where we don’t have big down periods. 2022,2023 and now 2024 are all years in which we’ve played shocking football for weeks on end.

Swans fortunately won a lot of games early and maybe they are just going through a strange down period in a weird season in general with real standout.

If they want to get fairdinkum, the need to cut loose Marchbank, Martin, Cunningham , Young , both Durdins, and one of Williams or Fantasia.
These player types that are always injured for a good half season each one of them - can bugger off. Its not as if there any any world beaters amongst that group.