Great call by this poster. Appears to be on the money once more
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Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood?
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This happens to all teams though, in varying degrees, and is not news.
If you watched the first qtr, pies swarmed to contest and when the blues won contest Pies got burnt on turnover.
In short this happens regularly, from the tele we don't get the benefit of seeing how teams set up offensively / defensively outside the TV screen.
You would've noticed early in the 2nd the Pies went corridor to outnumbered positions attempting speed on ball, got burnt on turnover when they didn't win it.
And in the 3rd, the Pies tried to suffocate the blues (close down the game) into submission but when the Pies fumbled at crucial times in crucial parts of the ground it allowed the blues to transition to score to an awaiting McKay in free grass.
Admittedly in this frame NO ONE behind the contest in d50 is probably down to a comms error.
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Just checked the calendar again, 1st week in May it is.
How many more times do Blues supporters need to be proven wrong by opposition supporters?
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The team we fielded was streets away from being our best though, they play and we win even if DeGoey plays but these sorts of arguments are meaningless anyway. You play the game again with the same players and you can get a different result.
Last night's game didn't definitively prove anything, it just gives you bragging rights until next we meet.
Collingwood was too good on the night,that's all.
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Looking at teams that are probably top-6 contenders:
Carlton have played Brisbane (away), GWS (home), Geelong and now Pies in the opening 8 weeks (for 2W 2L)
Collingwood have played Brisbane (away), GWS (away), Swans (home), Port (home) and Blues in the opening 8 weeks (for 3W 2L).
You have played one more contender so far and now have 4 straight weeks where you don't play one whilst Carlton play 3. So in a month Carlton would have played 7 top-6 contenders to Collingwood's 5. Not sure how ours is a soft start...
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What a strange comment.
How so?
The 2022 and 2023 renditions of this very thread show Collingwood supporters have a better understanding of where Carlton are at than Carlton supporters do. 2024 is shaping up to be no different.
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In 2023 you and the others had Carlton making a PF? Please let's get serious now
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Maybe you should've said Collingwood supporters and not opposition supporters.
Freo and Geelong supporters seem to have a good hold also
We said they weren't at the level of Collingwood nor were they premiership-winning quality, which was correct
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You and the others were well off about Carlton in 2023 - let's not forget what this thread was like during the year
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Like the Cats fan who called Saad and McGovern depth players. We must have the best list ever built in the history of world sport if they are our depth players
A long way off the top team? Yeah what a shocker of a call that was
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We were 2.5 goals away from playing you in a Granny - that is not a long way off.
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That's another point to what you were talking about mate, we still made a prelim.
Picking the most extreme poster - the one who definitely dislikes Carlton and trolls you guys - isn't really good form.
You guys might not agree with the rest of us still but our opinions have been more moderate and essentially all include Carlton as a legitimate flag threat. Just one that needs to pick up its form, and fully merited its recent losses.
After Brisbane took the foot off the pedal in the last. The margin was flattering.
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I don't spend much time on the main board bar this thread so I can only speak for the Cats fans in here and there are pretty much two - you and the one that made that comment.
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We could have been smashed by 100 - if you are one W away from Granny you can't claim we were a long way off. We just played a team that was undefeated at home
Got to love the delusion of the Carlton supporters who honestly believe they beat the better teams in the competition with their best 22.
In terms of importance, Collingwood's three most important players are:
1. Nick Daicos - the team's best player and arguably the best player in the competition.
2. Darcy Moore - Key defender and leadership in the backline.
3. Scott Pendlebury - Poise and Leadership.
If you sat down at the start of the season and listed our next four most valuable players, you'd likely have:
De Goey - Our second best player when he is at his best.
McStay - Forward pillar and we don't make a Grand Final without him in our first two finals.
Murphy - Key Defender who allows Moore to play his intercept role.
Tom Mitchell - Inside mid who feeds it out to the likes of De Goey and Daicos. 4th in our B&F last year and one of our best players on Grand Final Day.
All four are certainly in Collingwood's top 10 most important - the other three I can think of who would be in the mix are Mihocek, J. Daicos and Maynard.
Where do Carlton's outs rate in terms of importance?
Certainly none ahead of Weitering, Curnow, Cripps, Walsh and McKay.
Saad may be 6th at a stretch?
Would either Fogarty, Martin or Motlop have contributed more than Owies' three goals?
'Tell 'em they're dreaming'.....
In terms of importance, Collingwood's three most important players are:
1. Nick Daicos - the team's best player and arguably the best player in the competition.
2. Darcy Moore - Key defender and leadership in the backline.
3. Scott Pendlebury - Poise and Leadership.
If you sat down at the start of the season and listed our next four most valuable players, you'd likely have:
De Goey - Our second best player when he is at his best.
McStay - Forward pillar and we don't make a Grand Final without him in our first two finals.
Murphy - Key Defender who allows Moore to play his intercept role.
Tom Mitchell - Inside mid who feeds it out to the likes of De Goey and Daicos. 4th in our B&F last year and one of our best players on Grand Final Day.
All four are certainly in Collingwood's top 10 most important - the other three I can think of who would be in the mix are Mihocek, J. Daicos and Maynard.
Where do Carlton's outs rate in terms of importance?
Certainly none ahead of Weitering, Curnow, Cripps, Walsh and McKay.
Saad may be 6th at a stretch?
Would either Fogarty, Martin or Motlop have contributed more than Owies' three goals?
'Tell 'em they're dreaming'.....
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Ummm bragging rights are all that matters aren't they?
Nah, not even close
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Go easy on the call on Nick, he may very well develop into being one of the very best in the competition one day, I fully expect that will be the case, but it's a bit early to call it. I like the irony in the fact that a once fanatical Carlton supporter could very well end up as the best ever Collingwood player.
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