Prediction Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Hawthorn

[peetoo]

Suggests to me there are carlton bargains in supercoach

 

[bradfisher14]

Suggests to me there are carlton bargains in supercoach

If you don't have Jagga in your team, you'll be very very sad.

 

[Hawkboy62]

Except.... Owies is no longer at Carlton.

Where do Fogarty, Moir, Motlop and Williams rank?

According to DraftGuru:
Motlop C+, Williams B, Fogarty C+, Moir D, Cooper Lord D, Fantasia B Not enough information on Moir and Lord , even if they have played promising games. Even Jagga will be a D at this stage but for list comparisons he may be a C or even C+. After playing a full season Calsher Dear a C and the Wizard C+.

Apart from Lewis and Dear the Hawks list is generally healthy, whereas there may be durability question marks about some of the better Carlton players. (Curnow, Walsh, Cerra ). Williams, Docherty probably miss games throughout the season, Saad also.

Incidentally Mitchell has spent about $1.7 million in SC recruiting a 29 and a 26 year old, both of whom are only rated as B grade players. We was robbed.

 

[NetworkNerd]

Carltons time is now. If I was a Carlton supporter, I'd be pretty filthy if they don't finish top 2 with a good draw and the top end talent they have.

It would be nice for the Hawks to finish the way they finished in 2024 however there is still time.

 

[Worm4]

According to DraftGuru:
Motlop C+, Williams B, Fogarty C+, Moir D, Cooper Lord D, Fantasia B Not enough information on Moir and Lord , even if they have played promising games. Even Jagga will be a D at this stage but for list comparisons he may be a C or even C+. After playing a full season Calsher Dear a C and the Wizard C+.

Apart from Lewis and Dear the Hawks list is generally healthy, whereas there may be durability question marks about some of the better Carlton players. (Curnow, Walsh, Cerra ). Williams, Docherty probably miss games throughout the season, Saad also.

Incidentally Mitchell has spent about $1.7 million in SC recruiting a 29 and a 26 year old, both of whom are only rated as B grade players. We was robbed.

Fantasia is a D at best

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Carltons time is now. If I was a Carlton supporter, I'd be pretty filthy if they don't finish top 2 with a good draw and the top end talent they have.

It would be nice for the Hawks to finish the way they finished in 2024 however there is still time.

I think there's 2 other teams that will be comfortably better than us in the regular season so I'm not going to be upset about missing top 2. Top 4 yes, but think 2 would be a fair stretch.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Don't worry Fadge... the Pies are not one of them

 

[Fadge]

Don't worry Fadge... the Pies are not one of them

I just love the confidence and bravado of a supporter of a team who's not going to be upset if their team doesn't finish top 2, but will be if they don't finish top 4 - when that very team hasn't finished top 4 for more than two decades...

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I just love the confidence and bravado of a supporter of a team who's not going to be upset if their team doesn't finish top 2, but will be if they don't finish top 4 - when that very team hasn't finished top 4 for more than two decades...

Easiest draw in footy in 2025 Fadge. Even if I don't think we're certain to be the one of the best 4 teams in it, I still think we finish top 4 this season on the back of being above average and having an extraordinarily soft draw.

 

[Jeremias]

Don't worry Fadge... the Pies are not one of them

Any chance you can stop dragging him into multiple threads to ruin with his garbage?

Most of us don't want to read his rubbish.

If you want to engage, do it in the banter thread.

 

[matey]

Cripps is big, strong, an absolute bull and one of the best in congestion but put someone on him that breaks even …… you will more often than not win the midfield battle against the Blues.

Blues midfield could struggle against the top teams as you need a few hard nuts to get you through a long season and then (if you do make it) in finals when it gets hot in the kitchen!