Prediction Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Hawthorn

[JustaBattler]

I think a lot of us Hawthorn supporters know there will be changes to our game plan this year, which could potentially set us back but could also be very beneficial in the long term.

Some natural improvement from our younger players is likely, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the cohesiveness of the team will improve.

The main issue I see with Carlton is their reductive and simplistic way of looking at their trajectory.

They essentially reduce everything to, “Well, we were injured last year, we’ve added one or two pieces, and now we’ll be much better and win the premiership,” with no real discussion about how they’ll address their game plan, which was a massive Achilles heel last year.

They’re in for a rude awakening.

I can't think of a Carlton poster who has claimed that the Club "will win a premiership this year" every Club has exploitable weaknesses and stengths that need to be accounted for.

Once hyoeprbole is introduced into a discussion - it mostly goes one way...

As for improvement- I dont think carlton needs to improve from its best to beat the best - but it certainly needs to improve from its worst to even be competitive against even average opposition.

 

[Kenny Hunter09]

Are you new to AFL football?

It's obviously contextual, I didn't think I NEEDED to spell everything out on a football forum.

One of you Carlton supporters understood and actually gave a good reply a couple of days ago.

It's obvious the statement suggests Carlton is one of the poorest teams and moving the ball quick out of D50. Yes, all teams zone we don't need to repeat this. I'm guessing you're just trolling as you can't be this football illiterate on a football forum.

You made a sweeping statement based on an assumption - no real fact or data to back it up.
I've noticed you make a lot of these types of statements in your posts. Was I trolling...maybe a little...but moreso me looking to extract more information from you to back your position, so you can prove that you are the footy analysis heavyweight you think you are.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Are you basing this purely on eye-test? Here are some statistics from Season 2024 that debunk your statement.

Scores from turnover:

• 4th - Carlton - 52.0
• 8th - Hawthorn - 49.0

Scores from D50:

• 9th - Hawthorn - 33.6
• 10th - Carlton - 33.5

Source:

AFL Team Statistics

AFL team statistics.

www.wheeloratings.com

And of course... 0 acknowledgement of this information.

Hardly surprising.