Who will be the last team to be beaten by GC and GWS?

[Father Jack]

It's pertinent to the thread, if Essendon don't have most of their players back by then they'll probably lose.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Are Sydney the only side to have lost to GWS but not the GC?

 

[King Cold]

We've got GC and GWS at home and GC away.

If GC recapture their first half 2014 form we're a good show to lose to them for the first time at Metricon. Can't see us losing to GWS over here. We punish them, that's our thing.

West Coast's average winning margin against GWS is 97 points

 

[Scotland]

West Coast's average winning margin against GWS is 97 points

We are the Matthew Hayden of 2013/14.

 

[radiojake]

West Coast and Adelaide

Expansian club flat track bullies

 

[King Cold]

We are the Matthew Hayden of 2013/14.

Closely followed by Adelaide, who's average winning margin against GWS is 87 points.

 

[King Cold]

West Coast and Adelaide

Expansian club flat track bullies

To be fair to West Coast, they did come very close to losing to Gold Coast at Subiaco this year.

Adelaide are the only team in the AFL that has never looked like losing to either Gold Coast or GWS.

 

[radiojake]

To be fair to West Coast, they did come very close to losing to Gold Coast at Subiaco this year.

Adelaide are the only team in the AFL that has never looked like losing to either Gold Coast or GWS.

In their very first match, Gary Ablett kicked three first quarter goals and Gold Coast jumped out to a 4 goal lead before Adelaide finally woke up - But Adelaide had a 5 goal lead by half-time

That would be the closest either of them have got so far...

 

[eth-dog]

We are the Matthew Hayden of 2013/14.

Average of 59 vs India, 46 vs England, 47 vs Pakistan and 52 vs WI.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Closely followed by Adelaide, who's average winning margin against GWS is 87 points.

Freo actually second:

Club|GWS For|GWS Against|Matches|Average margin
\West Coast|201|493|3|97.33333333
\Fremantle|141|425|3|94.66666667
\Adelaide|305|738|5|86.6
\Hawthorn|175|427|3|84
\North|226|544|4|79.5
\St Kilda|191|398|3|69
\Richmond|219|492|4|68.25
\Coll|187|355|3|56
\Sydney|352|682|6|55
\Carlton|197|350|3|51
\Geelong|246|377|3|43.66666667
\Essendon|277|436|4|39.75
\Bris|228|335|3|35.66666667
\Port|332|464|4|33
\Bulldogs|343|410|4|16.75
\Melbourne|520|531|6|1.833333333

Sad indictment on where Melbourne are at that GWS have won three in a row against them. However, they are the only club beside Sydney to have played them 6 times. AFL trying to manufacture a Scully rivalry?

 

[BrewSmackerVeiny]

Sad indictment on where Melbourne are at that GWS have won three in a row against them. However, they are the only club beside Sydney to have played them 6 times. AFL trying to manufacture a Scully rivalry?

The AFL needed to give GWS winnable games, any potential Scully rivalry is just gravy.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

The AFL needed to give GWS winnable games, any potential Scully rivalry is just gravy.

Yeah, probably thought they were doing Melbourne a favour too. Numbers would suggest they are on about a par with each other so it makes sense to play each other as often as possible.

 

[Scotland]

Average of 59 vs India, 46 vs England, 47 vs Pakistan and 52 vs WI.

Excluding Pakistan where we don't tour, West Indies is the only opponent listed where he fared better away from Australia - from 4 whole tests.

Career average of near 51 overall and near 58 away. Average of 34.7 in South Africa, 34.5 in England, 40.1 in Sri Lanka. Did OK in India though. He made some big scores when the getting was good.

 

[Gibbke]

Average of 59 vs India, 46 vs England, 47 vs Pakistan and 52 vs WI.

And 567 000 v Zimbabwe...

 

[andrew coombs]

The Hawthorn /GWS match in Sydney is half a chance. Hawthorn just don't lose in Tassie so GC will have to wait another year.

 

[raskolnikov]

Freo actually second:

Club|GWS For|GWS Against|Matches|Average margin
\West Coast|201|493|3|97.33333333
\Fremantle|141|425|3|94.66666667
\Adelaide|305|738|5|86.6
\Hawthorn|175|427|3|84
\North|226|544|4|79.5
\St Kilda|191|398|3|69
\Richmond|219|492|4|68.25
\Coll|187|355|3|56
\Sydney|352|682|6|55
\Carlton|197|350|3|51
\Geelong|246|377|3|43.66666667
\Essendon|277|436|4|39.75
\Bris|228|335|3|35.66666667
\Port|332|464|4|33
\Bulldogs|343|410|4|16.75
\Melbourne|520|531|6|1.833333333

Sad indictment on where Melbourne are at that GWS have won three in a row against them. However, they are the only club beside Sydney to have played them 6 times. AFL trying to manufacture a Scully rivalry?

Someone needs to let Scully know.

 

[Gibbke]

Now that we have the draw, this is easier...theoretically...

West Coast definitely up against it in preserving their record, with a late season trip to Qld. Freo also has a danger game at Metricon - despite their 4-0 record, the two away wins were their two lowest margins and also occurred when the Suns were still pretty ordinary. As the teams even out, expect WA teams to struggle over the coming seasons with the long flight as per normal. If Freo had an away game against GWS, I'd be tempted to tip against them. Adelaide gets two away trips, so the Qld game is a real chance. In general, any GWS game in Sydney will be tougher this year, but there's still not enough evidence to call it. On that basis, and with the knowledge that when GWS ran them to within 7 points the team had a huge injury list, the Hawks should be safe, especially considering their GC game is in Launceston. Essendon get both games away, and who knows what their team will look like...

Sticking my neck out - West Coast, Adelaide and Essendon to get beaten at least once, Freo and Hawthorn to survive another year...all of this, of course, depends on Gary Ablett...!

 

[floodbuster]

I'm going to say Fremantle especially if Lyon stays in charge

 

[King Cold]

St Kilda needs to be added to the list of teams that have lost to GWS.

Jim Boy

 

[ag6858]

So we're down to Adelaide, Essendon, Freo, Hawthorn and West Coast.
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From looking at the draw, I think Adelaide and West Coast should fall this year, leaving only Essendon, Fremantle and Hawthorn remaining.

 

[Vdubs]

So we're down to Adelaide, Essendon, Freo, Hawthorn and West Coast.
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From looking at the draw, I think Adelaide and West Coast should fall this year, leaving only Essendon, Fremantle and Hawthorn remaining.

I'll be outrageously brave and nominate Hawthorn as the last team.
Both GC and GWS are going to be so tough to beat at their home venues from this season onwards.
We fell to GC 2014, and struggled against GWS last time at their home venue. Once they start winning, it'll be like an avalanche.

 

[ag6858]

I'll be outrageously brave and nominate Hawthorn as the last team.
Both GC and GWS are going to be so tough to beat at their home venues from this season onwards.
We fell to GC 2014, and struggled against GWS last time at their home venue. Once they start winning, it'll be like an avalanche.

Can't say I disagree with you. Definitely seems like Hawthorn will be the team to beat for the next few years as well.

 

[Power Raid]

I think it will become a battle between the crows and the dons

 

[John Dough]

West Coast are certain to be the next team that falls.

Adelaide, Essendon, Fremantle and Hawthorn are very likely to make it through another year unscathed.

 

[Ellie Aquitaine]

West Coast are certain to be the next team that falls.

Adelaide, Essendon, Fremantle and Hawthorn are very likely to make it through another year unscathed.

Until we play Freo on the east coast, we will not stand a chance.