Who's afraid of Rupert Murdoch? The end of an era.

[Mofra]

Did enjoy the irony of Chris Kenny's strident defense of satire and free speech in light of his legal action against the Chaser lads.

Link to the dog-rooter's comments?

 

[John]

Je suis The Chasers.

 

[medusala]

And it only takes a brief glance at this forum to see how his idiotic worldview has seeped into some people's minds.

It's amusing that he can so wind up the usual no hoping life owes me a living, humanities degree, public sector, white collar dregs of society who for some unknown reason think they are actually superior to everyone else and have morally unassailable opinions.

Meanwhile the masses continue to buy his papers and watch his tv stations rather than Al Jazeera lite versions like the Guardian

Choice, such an evil thing.

“No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?”

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

It's amusing that he can so wind up the usual no hoping life owes me a living, humanities degree, public sector, white collar dregs of society who for some unknown reason think they are actually superior to everyone else and have morally unassailable opinions.

Meanwhile the masses continue to buy his papers and watch his tv stations rather than Al Jazeera lite versions like the Guardian

Choice, such an evil thing.

Please just say "he says what we're all thinking". I haven't seen that one in years.

“No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?”

Why are you quoting a democratic socialist who fought for a foreign socialist force trying to overthrow a national government?

 

[NSWCROW]

Dumb post. What Murdoch is saying is that the extremist issue can only be handled within the Muslim community. External parties trying to beat Islamic extremisn just causes more resistance. For real change to occur it must be driven from within. Understand?

NO

What Murdoch ( THE RIGHT ) are busy saying atm is " JUMP !!!!! , JUMP THIS HIGH !!!!!! "

YOU MUST say this
YOU MUST say that

Don't EVER tell me what to say or when


Fascist dogs
My grandparents went to war to fight mongrels like this

 

[medusala]

Why are you quoting a democratic socialist who fought for a foreign socialist force trying to overthrow a national government?

Because he was a democratic socialist doesn't preclude him from having anything worthy to say. Keynes even had one or two things to say that were interesting. Just as JFK wasn't much chop as president but had a clue when it came to taxes.

May as well say I cant praise Keating for following a lot of Thatcher's policies because he was in the ALP

 

[Grin]

It's amusing that he can so wind up the usual no hoping life owes me a living, humanities degree, public sector, white collar dregs of society who for some unknown reason think they are actually superior to everyone else and have morally unassailable opinions.

What, like teachers and nurses etc.

Interesting how those who have some quasi religious degree in mindless free market fundamentalism and demonstrate continually that they have no idea about the real world, and can't see past their nose to learn from their mistakes, are so critical of the educational achievements of others.

In my experience, the lazy tend to have no respect for the hard working, just as the very uneducated, and those with icky Mouse qualifications, like Meds, are critical of people who have worked hard to get themselves educated.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Because he was a democratic socialist doesn't preclude him from having anything worthy to say. Keynes even had one or two things to say that were interesting. Just as JFK wasn't much chop as president but had a clue when it came to taxes.

May as well say I cant praise Keating for following a lot of Thatcher's policies because he was in the ALP

You made some impassioned, hackneyed right point in defense of one of the must powerful men in the world, then followed up by quoting someone who would ridicule your opinions on-sight.

 

[Contra Mundum]

When Rupert finally meets his maker (Satan I mean) it will be fun to watch the empire crumble - the older kids will squabble for dominance and Wendy Deng will assert the rights of her kids - it will be the War of the Roses but with less peasant deaths

 

[romeoh]

It's amusing that he can so wind up the usual no hoping life owes me a living, humanities degree, public sector, white collar dregs of society who for some unknown reason think they are actually superior to everyone else and have morally unassailable opinions.

Meanwhile the masses continue to buy his papers and watch his tv stations rather than Al Jazeera lite versions like the Guardian

Choice, such an evil thing.

“No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?”

What on earth does any of this have to do with the price of fish?
Old Rupey said a very silly thing, that is all. Everyone says something stupid at some point. Deal with it.

 

[AM]

What on earth does any of this have to do with the price of fish?
Old Rupey said a very silly thing, that is all. Everyone says something stupid at some point. Deal with it.

But! But! But! The old fart does it so regularly.

 

[geelong_boy]

Because he was a democratic socialist doesn't preclude him from having anything worthy to say. Keynes even had one or two things to say that were interesting. Just as JFK wasn't much chop as president but had a clue when it came to taxes.

May as well say I cant praise Keating for following a lot of Thatcher's policies because he was in the ALP

Which of Thatcher's policies did Hawke/Keating implement?

 

[Bomberboyokay]

When Rupert finally meets his maker (Satan I mean) it will be fun to watch the empire crumble - the older kids will squabble for dominance and Wendy Deng will assert the rights of her kids - it will be the War of the Roses but with less peasant deaths

The Australian will be smothered with a pillow in record speed.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I don't. Read like a massive generalisation to me.

As opposed to a bad extrapolation..? Responsibility isn't synonymous with guilt or blame.

Then try. Why has Murdoch insisted on western intervention in the ME but know wants others to get involved based on their religion?

Which is inconsistent with his latest tweet.

The real issue here is Twitter. It's the last place you go for coherent thoughts on big and complicated issues, his post was utterly open to interpretation. Such is the low opinion of Murdoch it's interpretation was almost universally negative.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Fairfax has become unreadable. Which doesn't matter, because no one reads it anymore. It's a pity because it used to be a great paper.

Now it's like the socialist alternative from uni days. A progressive circle j**k so bigoted and inwardly focused that it's become detached from reality.

Instead of being the Left's answer to the Australian, it's actually its answer to the Herald Sun.

I mean please.... "TONY ABBOTT SHOULD HAVE DEMOTED HIMSELF" is their main headline!

http://www.theage.com.au/business/tony-abbott-should-have-demoted-himself-20141222-12c74q.html

This article took about 15 minutes to write and involved no research whatsoever. The reader learns nothing other than that Adele Ferguson clearly can't stand Tony Abbott. That wouldn't pass for a year 9 argumentative essay, much less the work of a professional journalist.

You used to be a respected publication. What happened?

The left's increasing obsession with post modernism has made it functionally inept and increasingly out of touch with reality. Which is just great because on the other hand we have the conservative side of politics which never is never in touch with contemporary society.

 

[Contra Mundum]

The left's increasing obsession with post modernism has made it functionally inept and increasingly out of touch with reality. Which is just great because on the other hand we have the conservative side of politics which never is never in touch with contemporary society.

This is such bulllshit - the conservative parties have been the most enthusiastic tacit adopters of post modernism - the rise of the idiot lay "expert" with a capacity to deny the science of climate change would not have been possible with a modernist mind set - an ideology is what drives your actions rather than what you say informs them

Abbott's whole style of governing is informed by "there is nothing outside the text".The dissonance between the policies and the actions can only be explained by a lack of belief in a concept like "truth" - I hate to use the Baudillard cliche but let's face it - the Abbott government truly is a simulacrum of a government

Derrida, Foucault and their mates are laughing like drains in the world beyond the text at this development

 

[John]

Murdoch made a comment on twitter that contradicts his defence of having no personal responsibility as to his companies phone hacking. I have no idea, nor do I care, as to post modernism in relation to his hypocrisy. Rupert Murdoch, based on his comment on twitter is a hypocrite, that is all that has to be said.

 

[Contra Mundum]

Murdoch made a comment on twitter that contradicts his defence of having no personal responsibility as to his companies phone hacking. I have no idea, nor do I care, as to post modernism in relation to his hypocrisy. Rupert Murdoch, based on his comment on twitter is a hypocrite, that is all that has to be said.

 

[John]

 

[Eastern Rangers]

This is such bulllshit - the conservative parties have been the most enthusiastic tacit adopters of post modernism - the rise of the idiot lay "expert" with a capacity to deny the science of climate change would not have been possible with a modernist mind set - an ideology is what drives your actions rather than what you say informs them

Abbott's whole style of governing is informed by "there is nothing outside the text".The dissonance between the policies and the actions can only be explained by a lack of belief in a concept like "truth" - I hate to use the Baudillard cliche but let's face it - the Abbott government truly is a simulacrum of a government

Derrida, Foucault and their mates are laughing like drains in the world beyond the text at this development

Mainstream politics isn't representative of grass root political attitudes of the politically engaged...

I wouldn't be placing too much emphasis on the guise conservative governments take but i do agree with your interpretation of the Liberal Government's own internal weaknesses. I see that as being as a result of of the unbelievably of a lot of their positions and policies (they know it) and how out of step they are with the orthodox social attitudes (climate change, marriage equality). I see the change as occurring around conservatives, who are too slow to adapt which continuously exposes errors in their foundational beliefs relative to broader society.

I would also note that the Labor party has long suffered a more pronounced identity crisis, one that has split their base. On the flip side Liberals and conservative forces have an ideological base which allows them to engaged more openly in culture wars with the true left.

 

[Contra Mundum]

Who is

Mainstream politics isn't representative of grass root political attitudes of the politically engaged...

I wouldn't be placing too much emphasis on the guise conservative governments take but i do agree with your interpretation of the Liberal Government's own internal weaknesses. I see that as being as a result of of the unbelievably of a lot of their positions and policies (they know it) and how out of step they are with the orthodox social attitudes (climate change, marriage equality). I see the change as occurring around conservatives, who are too slow to adapt which continuously exposes errors in their foundational beliefs relative to broader society.

I would also note that the Labor party has long suffered a more pronounced identity crisis, one that has split their base. On the flip side Liberals and conservative forces have an ideological base which allows them to engaged more openly in culture wars with the true left.

yeh maybe

 

[skilts]

What, exactly, is post-Modernism?

 

[CountryRace]

load of fluffy crap

 

[Contra Mundum]

load of fluffy crap

Give this man a PhD in French Theory. It is not as bad as it is misrepresented by the demagogues of the Western Canon. The essence of it is cynicism to claims of truth - particularly political movements like the Bolsheviks, Blackshirts or Nazi Party - all Modernist movements

"There is nothing outside the text'" is a restatement of Cartesian Dualism - that is you can't trust access to the so called 'real world" mediated by the senses. We have all seen the Matrix right?

A statement like "the left obsession with post modernism" is a little bit passe - its jumped the shark and meta theory is back baby!! I think what the poster means is identity politics

 

[Maggie5]

Watching The Drum last night they had a woman from The Australian who was criticising The Guardian for all the reporting of AS on Manus Island. Perhaps if they did their job, The Guardian wouldn't be the only paper reporting on what is happening.