Society/Culture Why do less intelligent people gravitate to conservative/right wing ideology.

[Mofra]

The Daily Mail article reports upon a study by Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario, Canada. (another Canadian Academic Psychologist but without a youtube presence). He looked at data from 2 UK studies testing child development. The subjects were
(a) 4,267 boys and 4,537 girls born in 1958;
(b) 3,412 boys and 3,658 girls born in 1970.

The tests were of
(c) verbal and non verbal intelligence; and
(d) cognitive abilities (number recall, shape-drawing tasks, defining words and identifying patterns and similarities among words).

In both surveys, 23 years later, the same groups were asked to answer a series of questions about traditions, authority and attitudes toward other races. Hodson then postulated a definition of conservatism which is undefined but looks to be based upon attitudes towards Authority and other races and concluded that low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservtive ideologies.

I’d very cautious about accepting the conclusions drawn by Grin and his gaggle of applauders from the article helpfully posted by Mofra

So would I.

Here's a meta-analysis that's far more wide ranging.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/55893129.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiZksKNiq38AhWmwjgGHVyFAdQQFnoECC0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2xHhvNmp4MW8yHxMsywA_c

There is a significant body of work on the subject. Assuming the entire concept is based off a single study is folly.

 

[cartwright]

Pi$$ off. I have always caveated my comments in that thread with the fact that I support the Australian law on abortion as it stands now. Even years ago when I was arguing with user CM86 and things were getting very hypothetical I included this statement. If thinking it’s better to use contraception than to get an abortion to correct a mistake is “opposing abortion” I don’t know what to tell you.

I don’t remember exactly what the Instagram thing was but I’m pretty confident “potentially losing IG followers” was raised by someone else as a good reason to get an abortion.

Really? Well it seems your posting led people to believe you’re into forced pregnancies. You went on and on about edge cases ( classic rwnj move btw).

You went on, and on about late term abortions, declaring them immoral when it was repeatedly explained they’re required for medical reasons, but you continued to claim that they were because the mother just didn’t want to continue a pregnancy, and then wanted people to compare a late term abortion to infanticide, which is ridiculous.

So yeah, you presented yourself as someone who takes rwnj talking points, & repeats them

I’ll leave it there as it’s off topic.

 

[cartwright]

I value science and logic. That seems to upset LWNJ's here.

Example?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I value science and logic. That seems to upset LWNJ's here.

I suspect they want to push their ideas without opposition, much like RWNJ's do. What do you think?

What is the science and logic behind your drunk posting bravado every Sunday night?

 

[Cap]

What is the science and logic behind your drunk posting bravado every Sunday night?

The guy blocks most people who even remotely challenge his barely coherent thoughts, so you can understand why they never get better

 

[the_interloper]

What is the science and logic behind your drunk posting bravado every Sunday night?

Might be related to Tom Hawkins and their loss yesterday?

 

[kranky al]

I value science and logic. That seems to upset LWNJ's here.

I suspect they want to push their ideas without opposition, much like RWNJ's do. What do you think?

Right so im guessing you are in favour of climate change mitigation as the biggest priority in the world atm?

 

[evolved2]

Carringbush2010 likes this. He's a centralist just like you

Here. I made a new thread for you two: Society/Culture - Do less intelligent people gravitate to conservative/right wing ideology?

You're very welcome
God I'm a good bloke.

Carringbush2010 seems like a good guy so I'm happy to be grouped with him.

Cheers, buddy.

 

[evolved2]

Right so im guessing you are in favour of climate change mitigation as the biggest priority in the world atm?

It's right up there.

 

[evolved2]

What is the science and logic behind your drunk posting bravado every Sunday night?

Another typical quality Ghosty post. You must be one of the most consistent posters on this site.

 

[evolved2]

Example?

• Calling out Lidia Thorpe over divisiveness and racism while she was popular amongst leftists here. She may still be popular among that type of poster.
• Calling bs on outdoor mask policy and curfews that were popular on the Dan Andrews thread.
• Opposing lockdowns based on cost-benefit analysis.

 

[Chief]

Calling bs on outdoor mask policy and curfews that were popular on the Dan Andrews thread.

You don't even know the meaning of the word "popular".

Genius level.

 

[royale with cheese]

Im talking about going to an election with no policy beyond 3 word slogans.

Stop the boats
Axe the tax
Ditch the witch
Prudent frugal and responsible
Stop the waste
Repay the debt
Open for business

And you lot bought it.

I voted for the Labor guy who said “ease the squeeze”

 

[evolved2]

You don't even know the meaning of the word "popular".

Genius level.

Fear was popular at the time. Go back and have a look at the Dan Andrews thread of the time and you'll find many posters who wanted us to stay in lockdown even after we opened up, and others whinging about people walking around outside with masks below their noses, etc.

We're a nation of scared conformists who lack basic common sense for the most part, much less the ability to critically analyse actions of our governments.

 

[royale with cheese]

As they say “ it’s easier to be spiritual when you have got a few pounds in your pocket. “

Who says this? If anything material wealth is negatively correlated with spirituality.

 

[Nice Swan Brother]

I was thinking about this thread and it's application to people who identify on the spectrum of right wing.

Firstly, today's "right" is a decade ago 'far right' in my opinion. Right wing never meant to encourage you to be racist, bigoted or ignorant but I guess that is what happens with spectrums, they move.

But modern right wing allows you to be intellectually lazy, you can cling to your beliefs by either downplaying issues, establishing your self as the victim or dismiss anything to the contrary of your view as 'left wing's propaganda.

So I can absolutely understand why it's easier to throw away beer you've bought in a little dummy spit, than sit down and consider the situation, or lament the mining of lithium for EVs without considering the impact of what occurs for the production of ICE cars or even dismiss climate change.

It's easy to throw the beer out or regurgitate something you've found online. But it's hard to sit down and consider the issue.

So rather than being less intelligent, perhaps it's just laziness or at least a lack of desire to consider topics on merit.

You should watch this

 

[Cap]

You should watch this

I've seen that. The first give away is Ted X.

The 2nd give away is who he works for, the third give away is his lack of source, the 4th give away is his mistruth about sources of electricity like claiming it mainly comes from coal (sure in some climate denying areas).

That's just a few. It's a great video aimed at a population he knows won't be bothered looking past a flashy presentation

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

The thing with stupid people/conservatives in general is that they refuse to change their mind in the face of overwhelming evidence that debunks their beliefs.

My idiot Aunt, who is well meaning but I am sure is navigating life with a sub-70 IQ continues to vote Liberal because she genuinely believes Albanese's number one agenda is to impose an inheritance tax. Asked to provide evidence of this she comes up short. She also believes that conservatives are better with money despite all evidence to the contrary. She does not believe we have about a trillion dollars of debt. She says that is a lie made up by Labor people who are trying to con voters.

I am amazed such people have the brain matter that allows them to function in any useful manner at all.

 

[Nice Swan Brother]

I've seen that. The first give away is Ted X.

The 2nd give away is who he works for, the third give away is his lack of source, the 4th give away is his mistruth about sources of electricity like claiming it mainly comes from coal (sure in some climate denying areas).

That's just a few. It's a great video aimed at a population he knows won't be bothered looking past a flashy presentation

So you thought it was a video that was anti EVs and renewables?

 

[Cap]

So you thought it was a video that was anti EVs and renewables?

it's more subtle than that.

The intention is to look pro EV, whilst propagating talking points that ' sound right' so people who can't be bothered fact checking these things regurgitate them as fact. Muddying the water if you like.

I'm assuming you've swallowed the whole load?

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

it's more subtle than that.

The intention is to look pro EV, whilst propagating talking points that ' sound right' so people who can't be bothered fact checking these things regurgitate them as fact. Muddying the water if you like.

I'm assuming you've swallowed the whole load?

 

[Nice Swan Brother]

it's more subtle than that.

The intention is to look pro EV, whilst propagating talking points that ' sound right' so people who can't be bothered fact checking these things regurgitate them as fact. Muddying the water if you like.

I'm assuming you've swallowed the whole load?

You sound like you've been a a circle jerk and swallowed multiple

 

[Cap]

You sound like you've been a a circle jerk and swallowed multiple

Sounds like you know how it plays out.

No judgement from me though. Each to their own.

 

[sdfc]

The thing with stupid people/conservatives in general is that they refuse to change their mind in the face of overwhelming evidence that debunks their beliefs.

My idiot Aunt, who is well meaning but I am sure is navigating life with a sub-70 IQ continues to vote Liberal because she genuinely believes Albanese's number one agenda is to impose an inheritance tax. Asked to provide evidence of this she comes up short. She also believes that conservatives are better with money despite all evidence to the contrary. She does not believe we have about a trillion dollars of debt. She says that is a lie made up by Labor people who are trying to con voters.

I am amazed such people have the brain matter that allows them to function in any useful manner at all.

We should have big inheritance taxes. Intergenerational wealth transfer is a blight on society.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

We should have big inheritance taxes. Intergenerational wealth transfer is a blight on society.

Perhaps but that’s not really the point I was making.

 

[kranky al]

Because they fall for dumb shiite like this:


<<<The previous Coalition government spent $20.8bn outsourcing more than a third of public service operations, an audit has found.

The federal government released the findings of the Australian public service audit of employment on Saturday, which examined the hiring practices and associated costs of 112 public service agencies, excluding the CSIRO, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, and parliamentary departments.



It found the equivalent of nearly 54,000 full-time staff were employed as consultants or service providers for the federal government during the 2021-2022 financial year – the equivalent of 37% of the 144,300-employee public service.

The audit also found outsourced service providers made up nearly 70% of the $20.8bn total spending on external labour, while more than a quarter of it went to contractors and consultants.

Information technology and “digital solutions” made up 43% of the spending on external labour, while 17% went to the actual delivery of services.

Katy Gallagher, minister for the public service, said the outcome of the audit showed the former Coalition government was “plugging gaps” in the public services with their “arbitrary cap on the number of government employees”, and creating a “shadow workforce”.

“The Morrison government maintained its artificial cap on public servant numbers, promoting a mirage of efficiency, but were at the same time spending almost $21bn of public money on a shadow workforce that was deliberately kept secret,” Gallagher said.

“The Australian public service and those who work within it perform a critical role in our democratic system and should be valued by government.

“Labor is committed to rebuilding the APS, its capability and ensuring that jobs that need to be done are delivered, where appropriate, by public servants.”

In 2015, the-then Coalition government made a decision to keep public sector staffing levels at the approximate equivalent of 2006-2007 levels, the equivalent of 167,596 staff, excluding the military.

In 2021, the Community and Public Sector Union told a senate inquiry into the capability of the public service that labour hire and external contracting was used for day-to-day public service work due to government policies meaning agencies were unable to directly employ staff.

Labor promised during last year’s federal election campaign to abolish the staffing cap on the public service and conduct the audit of employment if it won government, with the view to reducing government reliance on labour-hire or external contractors.

The policy has been long-held by the party, which also took it to the 2019 federal election.

Gallagher said Labor “acknowledges that there is a role for external labour” in the public service but said it should only be used where it provides “a clear value add”.>>>