we need some vid of late in the year. Apparently that was when he really started to show something after a big growth spurt (accordind to shifter)
Welcome With pick 52 Geelong Football Club select: Jacob Molier
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we need some vid of late in the year. Apparently that was when he really started to show something after a big growth spurt (accordind to shifter)
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It's an interesting pick. The 20m sprint and agility results are wild for a guy over 200cm. I like that we've speculated on someone who could be anything with the right development.
Its like we look at late picks as if we are playing with the houses money so we may as well go. ..all in on high potential..
Agree. We like our rucks to be mobile and have an ability to play different positions. Molier is very raw but also has a very high ceiling.
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I agree. I think if they wanted a ruck they'd have selected Dodson pure and simple.
Huh? What makes Molier a pinch-hitter?
Besides, being All-Australian at age 18 as a ruckman doesn't mean that much, because ruckmen take so long to develop. Sometimes it's a Brodie Grundy... sometimes it's a Daniel Gorringe or Gach Nyuon.
Also that we already have two young tall players who look like they are ruck-only (Conway and Edwards).
Picking a third player who is ruck-only will (a) limit the club's future, because you can only pick one ruckman per team, and (b) hamper everyone's development, because the VFL won't have space to effectively play two, maybe three, full-time ruckmen.
Agreed and this is why the F1 for Dodson talk blew my mind and had me extremely worried.
We have our young up and coming rucks.
Surely Molier was taken with the thoughts he could be trained up in possibly another positions due to his athletic profile and height… key back or key forward potential.
He basically is Stanley MK2 to me… even looks a bit like him.
Fast athletic 200cm player.
Stanley was played forward before we took him and used him as a ruck.
This guy might end up a key back, key forward or ruck.
Dodson was ruck only to my eyes and we already have Conway + Edward’s on our list.
Dodson talk was pie in the sky stuff.
Maybe we were trying to bluff some teams to move on him earlier than they did.
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He really doesn't strike me as a defender so that narrows it down for me
Time will tell.
We might have zero interest in playing him as a back.
Playing back would be far easier than forward though imo.
At 200cm with great speed and agility he should be able to keep up with any tall forward… just gotta hope he can actually play the game.
Obviously will take years to really know what he is.
I felt he looked like a very, very smart player in those highlights - lots of tricks, which is rare for someone who his peers on height.
It's not really strange that there would be a difference between the best player at the time in under 18s, and the player that good watchers think can be better in five years' time.
You can always try and turn a key forward into a defender (Mackie, Henderson and Lonergan come to mind), it's a much easier position because spoiling is vastly easier than marking. You can't do the opposite.
He doesn't just win taps. What about that kick out of the air (which was too fast for the commentator), some handballs, and the game awareness - not just winning the tap but putting it on a plate for the mid on the move?
Absolutely. These guys all have ability. To be in a draft for the top level of their sport. No mean feat.
Technically, with astute coaching they should be trainable into a number of roles
That's not always true at the top level of the game, though. Some roles are vastly harder than others, and everyone has a talent ceiling.
I remember chatting with an old coach who'd worked with a lot of elite sportspeople - he said that even at the top levels of sport, there are a bunch of people who have a suburban footy level of talent, but just work so much harder than everyone else for so many years that they get there by sheer bloody-mindedness.
Which makes sense why he dropped so far. Teams want flexibility with rucks these days
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More highlights of this guy starting at 0:46. Definitely could be tried up forward judging by some of those grabs.
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I'm sure none of us would have picked Lawson Humphries last year so wouldn't worry too much. If 1/4 new recruits succeeds that's a win.
Players who are specialists can fit a niche well enough but be overall weaker the guys who rack up 30 touches at VFL level each weak but would be unable to do that job at AFL level. A lot of unexplosive ball winners at U18 get overlooked for this reason, where as a 198cm KPD can make a career out of being a moving deterrent
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He's obviously raw.
But between his testing and the glimpses he showed in those highlights I'm stunned he wasn't even a certainty to be rookie listed.
But between his testing and the glimpses he showed in those highlights I'm stunned he wasn't even a certainty to be rookie listed.
The went for this guy because of his flexibility to play Forward and Ruck. His ruck craft does seem good, albeit he's probably not a full time ruck type, but neither was Stanley early in his career.
Now that we drafted Pike in the Rookie, then makes me think they will develop this guy more as a Key Forward. Was he the best Key Forward left though at this selection? I suppose too late now to think about it, let's just get on board.
Now that we drafted Pike in the Rookie, then makes me think they will develop this guy more as a Key Forward. Was he the best Key Forward left though at this selection? I suppose too late now to think about it, let's just get on board.
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The new Joe Daniher!
Suspect Cats want KP players with late picks.
Not looking specifically a designated ruck
Rather tall fast versatile players to adapt
Possible reason they overlooked Dodson
Instead look at their attributes and skills.
Determine where they can fit into the team
Future footballers will be more versatile
Single position players can be countered
Jezza roams wide makes him hard to stop
