Actually that was at the end of '98 and he wasn't made captain until 2001.
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Actually that was at the end of '98 and he wasn't made captain until 2001.
StevenwellerHFC
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Despite Judd being a very good player, off field leadership is a big issue, sure he could have slaps some team mates around their head or pull their head in, i'm not just talking about Fev.
Think maybe it had something to do with him walking out on the Eagles when they needed their captain the most. 2007 was an "annus horribilis" for West Coast
Richie Vandenburg might have been one of the most average players to be made Captain, but he was far from being a bad Captain.
In fact I believe he was the catalyst for turning our Club into a force to be reckoned with. Something we had not been for many years prior.
At the very least he did an incredibly admirable job b/w Crawford resigning as Captain and Mitch or Hodge being ready to take over.
In fact I believe he was the catalyst for turning our Club into a force to be reckoned with. Something we had not been for many years prior.
At the very least he did an incredibly admirable job b/w Crawford resigning as Captain and Mitch or Hodge being ready to take over.
Good filler captain am I right? Always thought Richie was a good leader, probably in the same mould as Maxwell.
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chris judd 2006-2007.
Absolutely right.
Filled a hole that needed to be filled, and filled it with aplomb.
Billy Shaw. Inaugural Saints captain and led them for three seasons for a total of zero wins. Went on to play for the dees where he played one game. A loss (possibly tanking 
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Finished his career with zero wins from 30 odd games .
)Finished his career with zero wins from 30 odd games .
Yep, as us pies supporters know with Maxy it's not always what you see in the stats page but the impact they have on the group that counts, old Richie helped turn the tide at the hawks it always seemed..
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Guys like Vandenberg, Maxwell, Green etc. might not be champions but they must have something that a whole team sees to elect them as captain. Internally, away from all the stuff we fans see, they might have a really big impact on the club.
Ordinary thread really.
Ordinary thread really.
Vdubs
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Buddha Hocking- have never seen a player elected as captain, pull out just before the 1st game, because he wanted to concentrate on his own form. He was a champion player, and later on played like a great captain, but this was bizarre. We then had co-captains in Stoneham and Ablett snr, and many suggested Ablett did not even know the names of most of his teammates, so we had some issues with captaincy back then.
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SpeciousArgument
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I thought this too until i was reminded of Colbert.
Carey was a freakishly good footballer, but was screwing the wife of one of his players.
Colbert on the other hand bailed on the club without leading the team for even a match. and then they came good...
floetry101
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As much as I love the guy, I can just imagine how embarrassing Shaun McManus would have been as captain.
He's the kind of guy you pity, the kind of guy that positively reinforces a terrible under 8's footy club, the kind of guy that goes to New York City after you've already told him that it'll "eat him alive".
Not much else to say really. The man did his time during our darkest days. I guess that alleviates it a little.
He's the kind of guy you pity, the kind of guy that positively reinforces a terrible under 8's footy club, the kind of guy that goes to New York City after you've already told him that it'll "eat him alive".
Not much else to say really. The man did his time during our darkest days. I guess that alleviates it a little.
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All captains are voted on by their peers , so they must be doing something right
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No they aren't, it's the coaches/football departments job to select the captain.
A senior player may be asked for his opinion but that would be it.
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LOL at people suggesting Maxwell or Vandenberg. These guys had total respect from everyone at their football clubs for their selflessness and the way they went about it. Their coaches and teammates never had anything but complimentary words for their leadership.
Vandenberg reluctantly took over as Hawthorn captain in difficult times after the club finished second last in 2004 and nearly imploded. He skippered the side through a transitional period from 2005-06 when they blooded many young players. Vandenberg led the Hawks into the 2007 final series, including a come from behind victory over Adelaide in his penultimate game when he held the that season's All Australian captain Andrew McLeod to 6 just kicks. He left the club in good shape and played a sizable role in the development of the 2008 premiership team.
Maxwell has captained Collingwood for the past 4 seasons and has been a fantastic leader. He embodies good leadership, growing into the role, elevating his game in the process, encouraging teammates, making sure they stick to the team plan and also enabling the younger stars like Swan, Pendlebury, Cloke and Thomas to concentrate on reaching their potential without the added burden and pressure of captaincy.
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Wayne Carey could be considered a contender for 'worst captain ever'. He was one of the great captains in AFL history, but then it all went out the window and overnight, he became the worst captain ever. The damage was mitigated because he fell on his sword and left the club.
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I think the worst captain ever was Ben Cousins. Like Carey, there was a time when he was a great leader and the West Coast players looked up to him and followed him. Unfortunately, he fell in with a crowd of degenerates and he lost his way. Drugs and alcohol affected his judgment. He became a cancer at his football club and eventually dragged the Eagles through the mud. Cousins had been replaced as captain prior to them winning the flag and he was sacked as a player prior to West Coast tumbling down the ladder. But the damage had been done and it had been 3-4 years in the making. A once mighty club went from top of the heap to bottom of the heap in less than 2 seasons.
His own coach and former teammate, John Worsfold felt betrayed by Cousins' actions and he famously said to him "You've wrecked this club"
West Coast fans loved Cousins and even after his fall from grace, they extended him a lot of sympathy, which is understandable. It's nothing personal against Cousins who I met once once in his younger days and found him to be a great guy: humble, engaging and likeable. But you'd be hard-pressed to find a worse captain.
Vandenberg reluctantly took over as Hawthorn captain in difficult times after the club finished second last in 2004 and nearly imploded. He skippered the side through a transitional period from 2005-06 when they blooded many young players. Vandenberg led the Hawks into the 2007 final series, including a come from behind victory over Adelaide in his penultimate game when he held the that season's All Australian captain Andrew McLeod to 6 just kicks. He left the club in good shape and played a sizable role in the development of the 2008 premiership team.
Maxwell has captained Collingwood for the past 4 seasons and has been a fantastic leader. He embodies good leadership, growing into the role, elevating his game in the process, encouraging teammates, making sure they stick to the team plan and also enabling the younger stars like Swan, Pendlebury, Cloke and Thomas to concentrate on reaching their potential without the added burden and pressure of captaincy.
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Wayne Carey could be considered a contender for 'worst captain ever'. He was one of the great captains in AFL history, but then it all went out the window and overnight, he became the worst captain ever. The damage was mitigated because he fell on his sword and left the club.
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I think the worst captain ever was Ben Cousins. Like Carey, there was a time when he was a great leader and the West Coast players looked up to him and followed him. Unfortunately, he fell in with a crowd of degenerates and he lost his way. Drugs and alcohol affected his judgment. He became a cancer at his football club and eventually dragged the Eagles through the mud. Cousins had been replaced as captain prior to them winning the flag and he was sacked as a player prior to West Coast tumbling down the ladder. But the damage had been done and it had been 3-4 years in the making. A once mighty club went from top of the heap to bottom of the heap in less than 2 seasons.
His own coach and former teammate, John Worsfold felt betrayed by Cousins' actions and he famously said to him "You've wrecked this club"
West Coast fans loved Cousins and even after his fall from grace, they extended him a lot of sympathy, which is understandable. It's nothing personal against Cousins who I met once once in his younger days and found him to be a great guy: humble, engaging and likeable. But you'd be hard-pressed to find a worse captain.
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Didn't realise that, and it would be hard to top. Winner for me.
I reckon he'd be a terrific captain. He's apparently quite intense and puts high expectations on himself, i reckon he'd probably rub a bit of that off onto his team mates. I heard an interview somewhere that in his first week at the club he had a go at Darcy for taking shortcuts in the gym. lol
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I think they still love him.
MiloStedman
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Believe me, I'm not condemning Mawell. He may be the best thing to ever happen to Collingwood. You know however, that the common belief is that he's a rubbish captain, so I assumed that many people would bring him up.
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