Prediction Your 2019 Best 22? (Post Trade Period)

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My starting 22 come round 1.
Still want to put a team down and players in what may be best positions ahead of just loading up with young talent for the sake of it:

Simpson Jones Marchbank
Docherty Weitering Newman.......Very unfair to Plowman right now, but we may not want to go in too tall.

Kreuzer Cripps Dow
Williamson ECurnow Fisher.........Even though Kennedy and Setterfield sound more palatable, I reckon we'll still be looking at some of the oldies to start with.

Murphy CCurnow SPS
Fasolo McKay McGovern.............That looks about right to me, or at least thereabouts.

Walsh O'Brien Thomas Cuningham.......Just feel we're going to want some extra speed to get ting going.

Setterfield most likely part of our best team though.
Pickett would be in if fit, serious and firing.
Kennedy may miss of Setterfield starts. will still likely behind ECurnow.
It's hard to even factor Casboult in here. He's almost forgotten.


Next year all being well:

............. Macreadie Marchbank
Docherty Weitering .............

Kreuzer Cripps Dow
Williamson Setterfield O'Brien

Fisher CCurnow Pickett
......... McKay McGovern

Coniglio...Walsh...Stocker/SPS/Kennedy...Murphy/ECurnow

The trick will be in attaining some senior players to give a few younger ones the scope to develop in the senior squad.
I feel (almost know) that the likes of Dow, Walsh, O'Brien & Stocker will integrate quickly, but having another key mid (Coniglio) in the mix should take some of the wrong pressure off, considerably.

We say that the backline is fine, but we have lost Byrne, will likely lose Simpson and now some zip is required.
I know we'll start pushing some mids back there but that's not why one acquires quality mids.....to turn them into HBF'ers

I don't want us to be targeting talls other than for a ruckman.
Seems to me that some real speed (the right type of speed) wouldn't go astray
 
My starting 22 come round 1.
Still want to put a team down and players in what may be best positions ahead of just loading up with young talent for the sake of it:

Simpson Jones Marchbank
Docherty Weitering Newman.......Very unfair to Plowman right now, but we may not want to go in too tall.

Kreuzer Cripps Dow
Williamson ECurnow Fisher.........Even though Kennedy and Setterfield sound more palatable, I reckon we'll still be looking at some of the oldies to start with.

Murphy CCurnow SPS
Fasolo McKay McGovern.............That looks about right to me, or at least thereabouts.

Walsh O'Brien Thomas Cuningham.......Just feel we're going to want some extra speed to get ting going.

Setterfield most likely part of our best team though.
Pickett would be in if fit, serious and firing.
Kennedy may miss of Setterfield starts. will still likely behind ECurnow.
It's hard to even factor Casboult in here. He's almost forgotten.


Next year all being well:

............. Macreadie Marchbank
Docherty Weitering .............

Kreuzer Cripps Dow
Williamson Setterfield O'Brien

Fisher CCurnow Pickett
......... McKay McGovern

Coniglio...Walsh...Stocker/SPS/Kennedy...Murphy/ECurnow

The trick will be in attaining some senior players to give a few younger ones the scope to develop in the senior squad.
I feel (almost know) that the likes of Dow, Walsh, O'Brien & Stocker will integrate quickly, but having another key mid (Coniglio) in the mix should take some of the wrong pressure off, considerably.

We say that the backline is fine, but we have lost Byrne, will likely lose Simpson and now some zip is required.
I know we'll start pushing some mids back there but that's not why one acquires quality mids.....to turn them into HBF'ers

I don't want us to be targeting talls other than for a ruckman.
Seems to me that some real speed (the right type of speed) wouldn't go astray
They’ve got Lynch and Riewoldt, so two very very good talls. Then they’ve got Dusty and caddy, who aren’t small and are very mobile and strong overhead and on the ground. I’d be bringing in Plowman to play on whichever of those two is forward. Newman isn’t a great one on one defender, so if they isolate a caddy or a dusty on him he’ll have 4 kicked on him. The combination of jones Weitering and Marchbank you’d hope would be enough height to combat their two key talls and Nankervis when *pulls a sour face* Grigg spells him in the ruck.
 
B: Simpson Jones Marchbank
HB: Docherty Weitering Williamson
C: Walsh Dow O'Brien
HF: Fisher C.Curnow Fasalo
F: McGovern McKay Murphy

R: Kreuzer Cripps Kennedy

Int: SPS E.Curnow Newman Setterfield

Emg: Plowman Stocker Thomas


Time to step up SPS, Marchbank, Kennedy, McGovern , Fasalo, Newman ( unless these guys take some big steps forward we might not improve as we hope )
 
was always amazed how the hawk bfers would rip into players if they ever lost - they barely had a weak link for a decade - I used to thank god for the likes of schoenmaker and now even he seems to have come on............thought provoking........
 
was always amazed how the hawk bfers would rip into players if they ever lost - they barely had a weak link for a decade - I used to thank god for the likes of schoenmaker and now even he seems to have come on............thought provoking........

Remember saying a couple of years ago, Shoen, would have been a good get short term while the kids came on, was just about clogged for suggesting it

Then the Levi hate continued
 
Backs: Simpson - Jones - Plowman
Half Backs: Williamson - Marchbank - Docherty
Centres: Thomas - Cripps - Fisher
HF: Walsh - C Curnow - Murphy
F: Fasolo - McKay - McGovern
R: Kreuzner - Ed Curnow - Dow
B: Setterfield - O' Brien - SPS - Cunningham

E: Weitering - TDK - Kennedy - Pickett
 
Post Draft ... my best 22 assuming all are fit:

Plowman. Jones. Docherty.
Williamson. Weitering. Marchbank.
SPS. Ed Curnow. Zac Fisher.
Murphy. Charlie Curnow. McGovern.
Fasolo. Harry McKay. Kennedy.

R. Kreuzer. Cripps. Dow.
I. Setterfield. Simpson. Newman. Walsh.


If any of the following 4 ‘emergencies’ kill it over the pre-season, we will be in a happy place ...

E. Pickett. LO’b. Stocker. Cuningham.
 

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The team is so much better, and most have a further pre-season under the belt, but I'll try something...
What changed since RD23 team?

B Dale Thomas, Jacob Weitering, Ciaran Byrne
HB Sam Rowe, Caleb Marchbank, Aaron Mullett
C Lochie O'Brien, Patrick Cripps, Jed Lamb
HF Sam Petrevski-Seton, Charlie Curnow, Matthew Wright
F Darcy Lang, Harry McKay, Cameron Polson
FOL Matthew Lobbe, Ed Curnow, Marc Murphy

I/C Kade Simpson, Sam Kerridge, Jack Silvagni, Tom De Koning

Not counting emergencies, we have 12 spots out of 22 to fill!!!
EMG Matt Shaw, Harrison Macreadie, Jarrod Pickett, Cameron O'Shea

Crikey 12 spots, no wonder we only won 2 games last year!
6 players no longer with us, and 6 players that are to be replaced by better players

So just based on this team, who can be slotted in and moved around a bit?

B Sam Docherty, Jacob Weitering, Lachie Plowman
HB Harrison Macreadie, Caleb Marchbank, Sam Petrevski-Seton
C Lochie O'Brien, Patrick Cripps, Sam Walsh
HF Zac Fisher, Charlie Curnow, Mitch McGovern
F Alex Falaso, Harry McKay, Paddy Dow
FOL Matthew Kruezer, Ed Curnow, Marc Murphy

I/C Kade Simpson, Matthew Kennedy, Will Setterfield, Liam Stoker

That's 12 changes, and I can't fit these guys in: Williamson, Thomas, TDK, JSOS, Polson, Pickett +more
Happy days ahead :D
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Unbelievable amount of change again.....we really need to settle the list down for a couple years and hopefully this can happen now as we begin to count up and and realise there is increasing depth as the young investments bear fruit.
I donT see Mc Creadie as a lock at RHB....Why not Willo with a good preseason?or Newman may lock it down as well[Mc Creadie did show a bit but bot quite Afl level ATM
SPS has been speculated as a running HBF and yes its a famous position and highly important however i dont see his role changing any time soon,he is a center pushing forward...he can go HBF with experience when he begins to crunch big numbers and becomes invaluable
Picket has the grunt and physical gift to make it-however has he passed it up?...we have seen glimpses during a few Afl games...he has recovered from a bad foot surgery and then a nasty wrist surgery and apparently come back in average condition..
He was quite lost last season after his few games after the wrist rehab...really unusual?
I get the impression he might have to be micromanaged and really pushed...apparently this might have been called into place with double sessions across Vfl/Afl training groups...but its a lot to ask to manufacture a genuine fitness base in one preseason?
what will be outcome?....he will train and be injured?...or wont tolerate demands and slack off?
we have to accept no matter how fast/strong/grifted the player is they still have to stick to the programm year in year out...otherwise it wont work
i think Pickett has to survive 2019 and really try hard and then go for 2020 as a wingman who can run out 4 quarters with intensity...at moment he is workrate is nowhere near requirement...he has a long road ahead and dont know if he will get past the threshold of ever running out 4 quarters.......??
 
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B: Plowman-------------Marchbank----------Simpson

H: Docherty-------------Weitering------------Thomas

C: Setterfield-----------Cripps---------------O'Brien

H: SPS------------------C.Curnow-----------McGovern

F: Pickett-----------------McKay---------------Fasolo

Foll: Kreuzer, Dow, Murphy

Bench: Williamson, Walsh, Stocker, Fisher

Emerg: Jones, Newman, E.Curnow, Kennedy, Garlett
 
Simpson Jones Williamson
Docherty Weitering Marchbank
Fisher Cripps SPS
Cuningham McKay McGovern
Pickett C Curnow Dow

Kruezer Kennedy Murphy

IC E Curnow Walsh Setterfield Newman

EM Stocker Fasolo OBrien
I just noticed that 15 of that 22 are first round draft picks and there 2 more in the emergencies plus a couple of more Garlett and Thomas the in the 2’s.
 
List locked in, I'm gonna have a stab at a round 1 side:

FB: Simpson, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Docherty, Weitering, Williamson
C: O'Brien, Curnow, Murphy
R: Kreuzer, Cripps, Dow
HF: Fisher, Curnow, Fasolo
FF: Bugg, McKay, McGovern
I/C: SPS, Plowman, Kennedy, Walsh

Random Thoughts:

- Backline should be pretty settled. I think Plowman will be a lock for round one, if only to take Dusty up forward, but may start on the bench if Dusty starts in the middle. Reckon Weiters is going to be given the job on Lynch, ergo his off-season upper body focus. Jones can blanket Riewoldt, with Marchy playing the intercept role, while Marchy can peel off to follow Riewoldt up the wing when he goes for a wander.

- Cripps and Dow to be our preferred centre stoppage combo, Kreuzer needs to start the season fit, and Curnow will have his work cut out for him as a more defensive-oriented player as in years gone by. Murphy to play more outside. With the 6/6/6 rule in place I think he and LoB will take a wing each and cover stupid amounts of territory.

- The forward line is tricky. I think Bugg may start round one ahead of Polson, with Cam needing to get some runs on the board in the VFL. Bugg does a lot of work defensively, has a better tank at this point in time, and I believe has better goal sense.

- Fasolo is a tough one to read - I like the forward line with him in it, but that's contingent on him being fully fit compared to alternative options like Silvagni, Cuningham, Lang and even Thomas.

- Definitely want to see Fisher at plenty of stoppages, but suspect he starts in the forward line with the 6/6/6 setup. Dangerous ground level player who should thrive at the feet of the three talls.

- Charlie, McKay and Gov - lock them in, our gameplan needs to be built around getting the ball into their hands.

- Samo plays, but needs to start finding more of the ball because there should be a few knocking on the door behind him. I've got faith, but he's not a lock just yet.

- Kennedy over Setterfield early in the year, just from a fitness and conditioning position.

- I have a feeling the club will want to give Walsh a taste of that massive MCG, round one against an old rival, 90k crowd. Another outside midfield rotation for when Murphy or O'Brien goes into the square or rests forward.

Leaves the reserves with:

FB: Newman, Macreadie, Goddard
HB: Thomas, Schumacher, Garlett
C: Pickett, Cuningham, Lang
R: Lobbe, Setterfield, Stocker
HF: Polson, De Koning, Silvagni
FF: Lebois, Casboult, Kerr
I/C: Phillips, Owies, Silvagni
 
List locked in, I'm gonna have a stab at a round 1 side:

FB: Simpson, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Docherty, Weitering, Williamson
C: O'Brien, Curnow, Murphy
R: Kreuzer, Cripps, Dow
HF: Fisher, Curnow, Fasolo
FF: Bugg, McKay, McGovern
I/C: SPS, Plowman, Kennedy, Walsh

Random Thoughts:

- Backline should be pretty settled. I think Plowman will be a lock for round one, if only to take Dusty up forward, but may start on the bench if Dusty starts in the middle. Reckon Weiters is going to be given the job on Lynch, ergo his off-season upper body focus. Jones can blanket Riewoldt, with Marchy playing the intercept role, while Marchy can peel off to follow Riewoldt up the wing when he goes for a wander.

- Cripps and Dow to be our preferred centre stoppage combo, Kreuzer needs to start the season fit, and Curnow will have his work cut out for him as a more defensive-oriented player as in years gone by. Murphy to play more outside. With the 6/6/6 rule in place I think he and LoB will take a wing each and cover stupid amounts of territory.

- The forward line is tricky. I think Bugg may start round one ahead of Polson, with Cam needing to get some runs on the board in the VFL. Bugg does a lot of work defensively, has a better tank at this point in time, and I believe has better goal sense.

- Fasolo is a tough one to read - I like the forward line with him in it, but that's contingent on him being fully fit compared to alternative options like Silvagni, Cuningham, Lang and even Thomas.

- Definitely want to see Fisher at plenty of stoppages, but suspect he starts in the forward line with the 6/6/6 setup. Dangerous ground level player who should thrive at the feet of the three talls.

- Charlie, McKay and Gov - lock them in, our gameplan needs to be built around getting the ball into their hands.

- Samo plays, but needs to start finding more of the ball because there should be a few knocking on the door behind him. I've got faith, but he's not a lock just yet.

- Kennedy over Setterfield early in the year, just from a fitness and conditioning position.

- I have a feeling the club will want to give Walsh a taste of that massive MCG, round one against an old rival, 90k crowd. Another outside midfield rotation for when Murphy or O'Brien goes into the square or rests forward.

Leaves the reserves with:

FB: Newman, Macreadie, Goddard
HB: Thomas, Schumacher, Garlett
C: Pickett, Cuningham, Lang
R: Lobbe, Setterfield, Stocker
HF: Polson, De Koning, Silvagni
FF: Lebois, Casboult, Kerr
I/C: Phillips, Owies, Silvagni
That’s a nice looking reserves side
 
List locked in, I'm gonna have a stab at a round 1 side:

FB: Simpson, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Docherty, Weitering, Williamson
C: O'Brien, Curnow, Murphy
R: Kreuzer, Cripps, Dow
HF: Fisher, Curnow, Fasolo
FF: Bugg, McKay, McGovern
I/C: SPS, Plowman, Kennedy, Walsh

Random Thoughts:

- Backline should be pretty settled. I think Plowman will be a lock for round one, if only to take Dusty up forward, but may start on the bench if Dusty starts in the middle. Reckon Weiters is going to be given the job on Lynch, ergo his off-season upper body focus. Jones can blanket Riewoldt, with Marchy playing the intercept role, while Marchy can peel off to follow Riewoldt up the wing when he goes for a wander.

- Cripps and Dow to be our preferred centre stoppage combo, Kreuzer needs to start the season fit, and Curnow will have his work cut out for him as a more defensive-oriented player as in years gone by. Murphy to play more outside. With the 6/6/6 rule in place I think he and LoB will take a wing each and cover stupid amounts of territory.

- The forward line is tricky. I think Bugg may start round one ahead of Polson, with Cam needing to get some runs on the board in the VFL. Bugg does a lot of work defensively, has a better tank at this point in time, and I believe has better goal sense.

- Fasolo is a tough one to read - I like the forward line with him in it, but that's contingent on him being fully fit compared to alternative options like Silvagni, Cuningham, Lang and even Thomas.

- Definitely want to see Fisher at plenty of stoppages, but suspect he starts in the forward line with the 6/6/6 setup. Dangerous ground level player who should thrive at the feet of the three talls.

- Charlie, McKay and Gov - lock them in, our gameplan needs to be built around getting the ball into their hands.

- Samo plays, but needs to start finding more of the ball because there should be a few knocking on the door behind him. I've got faith, but he's not a lock just yet.

- Kennedy over Setterfield early in the year, just from a fitness and conditioning position.

- I have a feeling the club will want to give Walsh a taste of that massive MCG, round one against an old rival, 90k crowd. Another outside midfield rotation for when Murphy or O'Brien goes into the square or rests forward.

Leaves the reserves with:

FB: Newman, Macreadie, Goddard
HB: Thomas, Schumacher, Garlett
C: Pickett, Cuningham, Lang
R: Lobbe, Setterfield, Stocker
HF: Polson, De Koning, Silvagni
FF: Lebois, Casboult, Kerr
I/C: Phillips, Owies, Silvagni

Good one, however may I ask again..
Put the lefties on the right hand side (to the tune of pass the dutchie), when kicking down.
 
Hopefully our best 22 by the end of the year is a little differently from round 1.

Want to see some of the newer guys push the older guys out. And pretty much have our 22 ready for next year, with just some targeted needs next trade period.

-BEST 22 BY END OF 2019-
FB: Marchbank , Jones, Williamson
HB: Docherty, Weitering, SPS
C: Obrien, Cripps, Setterfield
Fol:Kruezer, Dow, Fisher
HF: Murphy, C.Curnow, Pickett
FF: Fasolo, McKay, McGovern
INT: Kennedy, E.Curnow, Stocker, Walsh


Thoughts and reasons-

Simpson- Think he will play the whole year, 100% in our 22 right now. However he is in his last year or two, so we should be figuring out who is going to fill his huge shoes.

SPS- Can see him slotting into HBF. Silky skills and decent speed. If he can transition to HBF, between himself and Doc they can set up a lot of play and drive us forward (light years ahead of O'Shea this year)

Jones - still only 27 so young enough to be there for our challenge. Happy to give him first crack and hopefully he can lock it down all year with Docs guidance now he is back.

MacReadie- First can off the rank if any of all tall backs go down or form slump. Would like to see him have a huge year

Plowman- very unlucky. But if he is pushed to being a depth player our backline is in very very good hands.

Thomas- Great depth and will play plenty of senior footy, but to go forward the young guys need to go past him by the end of the year.

TDK- still very young for a ruck, but hope we can give him as much game time as possible. Krueze has struggled to get on the park. TDK to take main responsibilities in the next year or so.

lobbe/ Phillips - Solid depth if Krueze goes down and TDK not ready.

Newman- good depth. Will play games.

Lang- needs to lift

Pickett- got him in best 22 by end of year. If he can make it, it will be a huggeeee bonus.

Cunningham,- needs to lift or the younger guys will go past him. Can really add to our team if he can nail a spot.

Polson/ LeBois/ Garlett/ Owies- if one of these guys can make it it will be a huge bonus.


My god we have a lot of high draft picks in that 22.


2019 trade targets
Star midfielder- coniglio
Small forward- Rioli type
Running back- a line breaker Johannisen mould.
 
Posted a US style depth chart in our list management thread
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From that to pick the 22 I'm going with a 3-3-1-3-3-9 from the 6 areas above.

FB: Newman Weitering Jones
HB: Docherty Marchbank Simpson
C: SPS Cripps Dow
HF: Bugg C.Curnow Murphy
FF: McGovern McKay Fasolo
R: Kruzer E.Curnow Fisher
Int: JSOS Walsh Lang Kennedy

Emergencies: Williamson, Setterfield, O'Brien, Thomas/Polson

Pretty flexible lineup too. If a KPD goes down injured McGovern and JSOS can go back if need be. If a KPF goes down we are already quite top heavy so we could play a 2 tall setup. If a Ruck goes down then McKay, Jones & Charlie will have to take minutes there with the shuffle above going on in their areas

EDIT: Forgot Cuningham from the depth chart originally which isn't a good sign for him. Got Walsh into the side because lets face it this kid everyone knows will be best 22
 

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Lots of 1-3 year mids, so there will be a degree of management/rotation as the season progresses. Anyway, here goes...

B: Plowman Weitering Newman

HB: Simpson Marchbank Docherty

C: E Curnow Dow Murphy

R: Kreuzer Cripps Kennedy

HF: SPS Curnow McGovern

F: Fisher McKay Fasolo

IC: Williamson LOB/Cuningham JSOS Setterfield/Walsh/Stocker
 
List locked in, I'm gonna have a stab at a round 1 side:

FB: Simpson, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Docherty, Weitering, Williamson
C: O'Brien, Curnow, Murphy
R: Kreuzer, Cripps, Dow
HF: Fisher, Curnow, Fasolo
FF: Bugg, McKay, McGovern
I/C: SPS, Plowman, Kennedy, Walsh

Random Thoughts:

- Backline should be pretty settled. I think Plowman will be a lock for round one, if only to take Dusty up forward, but may start on the bench if Dusty starts in the middle. Reckon Weiters is going to be given the job on Lynch, ergo his off-season upper body focus. Jones can blanket Riewoldt, with Marchy playing the intercept role, while Marchy can peel off to follow Riewoldt up the wing when he goes for a wander.

- Cripps and Dow to be our preferred centre stoppage combo, Kreuzer needs to start the season fit, and Curnow will have his work cut out for him as a more defensive-oriented player as in years gone by. Murphy to play more outside. With the 6/6/6 rule in place I think he and LoB will take a wing each and cover stupid amounts of territory.

- The forward line is tricky. I think Bugg may start round one ahead of Polson, with Cam needing to get some runs on the board in the VFL. Bugg does a lot of work defensively, has a better tank at this point in time, and I believe has better goal sense.

- Fasolo is a tough one to read - I like the forward line with him in it, but that's contingent on him being fully fit compared to alternative options like Silvagni, Cuningham, Lang and even Thomas.

- Definitely want to see Fisher at plenty of stoppages, but suspect he starts in the forward line with the 6/6/6 setup. Dangerous ground level player who should thrive at the feet of the three talls.

- Charlie, McKay and Gov - lock them in, our gameplan needs to be built around getting the ball into their hands.

- Samo plays, but needs to start finding more of the ball because there should be a few knocking on the door behind him. I've got faith, but he's not a lock just yet.

- Kennedy over Setterfield early in the year, just from a fitness and conditioning position.

- I have a feeling the club will want to give Walsh a taste of that massive MCG, round one against an old rival, 90k crowd. Another outside midfield rotation for when Murphy or O'Brien goes into the square or rests forward.

Leaves the reserves with:

FB: Newman, Macreadie, Goddard
HB: Thomas, Schumacher, Garlett
C: Pickett, Cuningham, Lang
R: Lobbe, Setterfield, Stocker
HF: Polson, De Koning, Silvagni
FF: Lebois, Casboult, Kerr
I/C: Phillips, Owies, Silvagni
String lineup for both seniors & 2nd team
The 2nd looks really good, surely finals bound
The 2nd team have many players to push for senior selection every week :D
 

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