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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

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Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




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GeorgieBoyBlue2 said:
There called called score involvements or goal assists....
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The AFL site has Boyd on 'averages' below every other option (Newman/Saad) at Carlton for score involvements. Vs pies he is below Markov, Noble and Quaynor. If Doc/Williams play def i personally think he struggles to find a spot.

I did like him in the final though. Good squad player at this stage unless he proves otherwise. Has to push past Williams/doc IMO.

The current truth is on average he gets low possessions, has average kicking efficiency when put to the test vs his top 4 peers. And has fewer metres gained on average which means his weaker kicking average efficiency is even worse because he is taking on easier kicks (more sideways passes that others).

On goals assists and score launches he is therabouts. But the low possession count is an issue he has to deal with.

If he ups his possessions ave 15-18 maybe that forces him into best 22. I think he is suffering from an identity crisis. Reasonable tackle average and low possessions means he is matching in stats a lockdown defender. But then he fails in some of the lockdown categories and doesnt bring any physicality/fear which is an intangible quality we could use.

Needs a 10-15% improvement which isnt out of the question. He is the opposite of moneyball on this forum as everyone overrating him for best 22 based on not much.

Guessing he doesnt have the tank for wing and can't see him forward.
 
JustOneTime said:
The AFL site has Boyd on 'averages' below every other option (Newman/Saad) at Carlton for score involvements. Vs pies he is below Markov, Noble and Quaynor. If Doc/Williams play def i personally think he struggles to find a spot.

I did like him in the final though. Good squad player at this stage unless he proves otherwise. Has to push past Williams/doc IMO.

The current truth is on average he gets low possessions, has average kicking efficiency when put to the test vs his top 4 peers. And has fewer metres gained on average which means his weaker kicking average efficiency is even worse because he is taking on easier kicks (more sideways passes that others).

On goals assists and score launches he is therabouts. But the low possession count is an issue he has to deal with.

If he ups his possessions ave 15-18 maybe that forces him into best 22. I think he is suffering from an identity crisis. Reasonable tackle average and low possessions means he is matching in stats a lockdown defender. But then he fails in some of the lockdown categories and doesnt bring any physicality/fear which is an intangible quality we could use.

Needs a 10-15% improvement which isnt out of the question. He is the opposite of moneyball on this forum as everyone overrating him for best 22 based on not much.

Guessing he doesnt have the tank for wing and can't see him forward.
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I agree that Boyd has an incongruous amount of adoration by some on this board. However, I would certainly not go as far as you with the “go slows”. He is an AFL quality player and with more opportunity could possibly cement himself in a best 22 side.

The assertion that he is a walk up start to our 22 is just false. While fit for weeks, he could not get a gig in our top team at the pointy end if the season. Alex Cincotta who was literally struggling to get up physically over the last month of the season remained preferred. The over tall combination of Weitering, McGovern, Marchbank and Kemp was varied for the prelim to alter the balance and give Boyd a start, he took his chance and performed admirably.

With gun defender/rebounder Williams returning, B&F runner up Newman and All-Australian Saad, we will struggle to find room for Cincotta week to week, let alone Boyd. Then there is developing young gun Cowan who will command games.

Boyd is a decent, perhaps better than decent option to call upon, but will need to elevate further to have any hope of locking down a spot in the top team.

With Williams, Saad, Newman and Docherty at or approaching 30, we have to consider the next generation of defenders. Likely Cowan will be groomed as the 7th defender in the near future. If we can afford to carry all of Cowan, Cincotta and Boyd over the next 3-4 years(and they are patient), we have a readymade next wave already in the wings. Highly likely at least one of the Camporeale boys will give us another developing option in that area soon.

Our tall defenders remain a larger question mark. Weitering has five or so years as the lynchpin ahead, but arguably needs a developing key position progression in the near future. Potentially, Lewis Young can rediscover his confidence and some synergy with Weiters to alleviate the pressing need for another option. Sam Durdin remains an excellent insurance option, with more strings to his bow than many supporters realise while remaining a great mentor in our seconds.
 

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Sector 7G said:
Injury interrupted season and didn't play till round 10. The way our backline plays, Newman and Saad are the key distributors. Had pretty much identical stats to Cincotta.
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Stats aren't everything especially when it comes to players like Boyd who make every involvement count.

Cincotta is an AFL quality player and will be great for depth but imo Boyd can be just as competent defensively but will add more in terms of transition from D50. He can even get up the ground as we saw at times in the Prelim. The way he slotted into that team after all that time off was superb
 
I think the reason Cincotta kept getting picked over Boyd is he was often getting the job on the best small forwards and releasing Newman.

Despite the view many hold that Boyd would be a great small lockdown defender he has rarely if ever been deployed in this role.

Club probably figured Cincotta locking down + Newman Attacking > Newman locking down + Boyd attacking
 
I'll temper that last statement... we could do this:

1. Pick up two DFAs (e.g. Fantasia/Crozier)
2. Use our two draft picks to get one draft pick higher up (~15 or so)
3. At the draft upgrade 2 rookies, and just use the one draft pick.

We'd end up with 37 senior listed and 7 rookies (inc Cat-B). It'd be unusual (miss out on one rookie discount). But possible. Likely? - I'd think not.
 
Bletch said:
I'll temper that last statement... we could do this:

1. Pick up two DFAs (e.g. Fantasia/Crozier)
2. Use our two draft picks to get one draft pick higher up (~15 or so)
3. At the draft upgrade 2 rookies, and just use the one draft pick.

We'd end up with 37 senior listed and 7 rookies (inc Cat-B). It'd be unusual (miss out on one rookie discount). But possible. Likely? - I'd think not.
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I don't think there's enough need for Crozier to make it worth our while.

I'd definitely pick him up for the VFL and have him nominate for the draft - if he doesn't get listed elsewhere - and prioritise him midseason if we have a list spot available that he satisfies the requirement of.

Is not a clear upgrade like Orazio is (if healthy and at hjs best).
 
Can we save the Boyd talk for List Management or Best 22 threads, or even ... gasp ... his own player thread?

It has nothing to do with Trading or Drafting.
 

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The Bighouse said:
Crozier now delisted. Do we end up going there…?
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I reckon we'll stay in touch over the pre-season as an SSP precaution.

But besides that, nah, I think with so many defensive re-signings and basically no places left on the list, Hayden's not for us

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Blue and Silver said:
I reckon we'll stay in touch over the pre-season as an SSP precaution.

But besides that, nah, I think with so many defensive re-signings and basically no places left on the list, Hayden's not for us

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even if we have an open list spot he seems like a poor fit imo
 
carlton_99 said:
Will Kelly is 23 and has played 5 games in his career - what has he shown to warrant a shot over a 20-year old Carroll...?
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Will Kelly is 194 and about 95 kgs and was a talented key defender coming into the league from the juniors, I'm obviously not comparing him with Carroll, who unlike Kelly struggles to run out games and quarters.

Question mark on Kelly is attitude-based. Collingwood still a chance to re-rookie.
Elmer_Judd said:
Sharp is not up to it imo.

Anyhow Port have now officially delisted Fantasia, so assume he will officially sign on with us some point this week
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Sharp gets thrown around a lot, and maybe isn't quite the physical type recruiters look for as a winger, but if people are looking at Bonner they should be looking at him first.

Almost definitely Freo bound though, so it would have taken 2 years and some guarantees.
 
So is Orazio a CFC player yet?

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JuddgementDay said:
So is Orazio a CFC player yet?

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Didn't He undergo a fitness test at IKON Park a couple of days ago, and waiting for Ozrazio to get the all clear before officially signing him/putting him on the list ?
 

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