Round 1 no Levi? Can't see that happening
Prediction Your 2020 Best 22 (Post Trade Period)
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Round 1 no Levi? Can't see that happening
I've got it down to 18 players PENNED into the 22 for Rd1:
Weitering, Jones, Plowman,Simpson, Docherty, SPS, Marchbank.
McKay, McGovern, Betts, Martin.
Kruezer, Cripps, Curnow, Walsh, Murphy, Setterfield, Fisher.
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I've then got 4 players PENCILED in to make the 22:
Silvagni/Kennedy(3rd MF)
Dow & Cuningham(Mid/Wing/SF)
Williamson(Wing/Def)
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Which makes my side:
Simpson Jones Plowman
Docherty Weitering SPS
Setterfield Cripps Fisher
Dow(Mid) McGovern Martin
SOS/Kanga McKay Betts
Kruezer Curnow Walsh
Murphy(4th Mid)
Cuningham(Mid)
Marchbank
Williamson(Wing/HB)
Weitering, Jones, Plowman,Simpson, Docherty, SPS, Marchbank.
McKay, McGovern, Betts, Martin.
Kruezer, Cripps, Curnow, Walsh, Murphy, Setterfield, Fisher.
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I've then got 4 players PENCILED in to make the 22:
Silvagni/Kennedy(3rd MF)
Dow & Cuningham(Mid/Wing/SF)
Williamson(Wing/Def)
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Which makes my side:
Simpson Jones Plowman
Docherty Weitering SPS
Setterfield Cripps Fisher
Dow(Mid) McGovern Martin
SOS/Kanga McKay Betts
Kruezer Curnow Walsh
Murphy(4th Mid)
Cuningham(Mid)
Marchbank
Williamson(Wing/HB)
Good team, but I can't see Casboult missing round 1.
And I think it's slightly defender heavy/forward light.
I see our 6'5 inch mid(C) playing a bit forward. He is a beast forward too.
There's many possibilities, but ya gots ta narrow it to 22. Even the coaches differ on that, as expected.
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Well picked up. I’d have cas in for marchbank but you might disagree with that.
The issue is, does Cripps go forward when Harry is pinch-hitting in the ruck?
Because then our centre square is quite diminished. And as good as Crippa is, and I agree, we should see him forward more often, we'd be playing parts of the game without a true key forward.
Yeah. Marchy is a lock if fit.
As much as I love Williamson, I can't have him pencilled in for Round 1 until we see the practice games.
Of course, we all want Charlie back to complete our team.
But yeah, Harry pinch hits in the ruck. Rd1 Kruezer should be cherry to ruck all night virtually. He is very fit and workman like. It's only when he's carrying knocks that he struggles.
With Casboult, i thought he was alright as a defender last year and am ok with him there if we get a few injuries. But i don't want him anywhere near the forward line or ruck any more.
Whenever Crippa goes forward he plays as a genuine KPF. He has a beast attitude. McKay, Mitts, SOS/Kanga and an occasional Crippa sates me until Charlie returns.
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I really like the team, but I'm having trouble with no Newnes - he was traded to play VFL
And like the rest of our top 26 or 28 players, he will play a bit/lot of AFL. There'll always be injuries and a couple low on form.
But ya gots to narrow your own best 22 down to.....22.
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It's is darn hard - and that's a great problem to have
But, I'm on the fence with including Newnes or not; mainly because of the trade
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Based on last years form I just can’t see how we can leave Casboult out of the side. By the same token I can’t see structurally how he plays if all our talls are fit.
His versatility last year was exceptional, did a good job in the ruck (much rather him second rucking than Harry) competed well in the forward line but his work in defence when dropped behind the ball to stem the flow when things aren’t going are way is a real strong weapon to have up your sleeve.
Quite the conundrum
His versatility last year was exceptional, did a good job in the ruck (much rather him second rucking than Harry) competed well in the forward line but his work in defence when dropped behind the ball to stem the flow when things aren’t going are way is a real strong weapon to have up your sleeve.
Quite the conundrum
I disagree that we don't have an obvious best 14. The big difference now is that those '15-30' players are fitter and of more quality so will improve our depth.
I thought he was a DFA?
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Ooops - that's what I meant.
He wouldn't leave the Saints just to play VFL at CFC
Definitely of the conclusion that we are going to have to see some footy played before being able to come up with a best 22.
IMO there are 28 players on the list who are all vying for a spot in the best 22 with the potential for there to be 33 which is finally where you need to be to be successful.
Backline is pretty strong. Midfield is ok, has potential and needs to prove itself. Forward line is ok but also needs to prove itself. Turning potential into results is going to be the big factor this season.
List looks good, we should be back to being a competitive team.
Backs: Plowman Jones Newman Docherty Weitering Simpson Williamson Marchbank SPS
Tough side to pick with the backs. I have Marchbank and SPS potentially missing from this group and they are talented players. Perhaps they fit in as utilities in other spots. We could play 8 defenders as some of these guys can play wing.
Midfields: Kreuzer Newnes Cripps Walsh Murphy Curnow Setterfield O'Brien
Midfield IMO is pretty set. O'Brien probably misses here as a utility like Gibbons or Fisher are more ahead.
Forwards: Martin McKay Cuningham Betts Curnow McGovern Kennedy
Forward line looks pretty set to me. Kennedy might miss out for a more utility type in Silvagni or Gibbons. Perhaps even Fisher if he comes on.
Utilities: Fisher Casboult Silvagni Gibbons
Utilities are handy and you need a couple. Other players may come into this category like Martin and Cuningham. These guys are hand to fill spots where lesser players could be picked and are great for structure. Casboult is probably going to be unlucky at times although he was so good last year. He will put pressure on our other tall forwards that's for sure.
Maybe: Dow DeKoning Stocker Lang Cottrell
I see these guys as talented players but still a bit raw and still having areas to work on to get into the side and probably only missing out due to who's ahead of them. They need to go to the next level to be in the mix of the above and I'm hoping they do.
Outsiders: Kemp Pittonett Macreadie Ramsay Polson Philp Honey O'Dwyer Phillips Goddard Owies
Always hope to have an outside jump out of nowhere and make the best 22. Couldn't say who it could be. Kemp has the talent and ability. Macreadie has the ability. Owies did some good things last season. Honey and Ramsay are potential surprise packets.
IMO there are 28 players on the list who are all vying for a spot in the best 22 with the potential for there to be 33 which is finally where you need to be to be successful.
Backline is pretty strong. Midfield is ok, has potential and needs to prove itself. Forward line is ok but also needs to prove itself. Turning potential into results is going to be the big factor this season.
List looks good, we should be back to being a competitive team.
Backs: Plowman Jones Newman Docherty Weitering Simpson Williamson Marchbank SPS
Tough side to pick with the backs. I have Marchbank and SPS potentially missing from this group and they are talented players. Perhaps they fit in as utilities in other spots. We could play 8 defenders as some of these guys can play wing.
Midfields: Kreuzer Newnes Cripps Walsh Murphy Curnow Setterfield O'Brien
Midfield IMO is pretty set. O'Brien probably misses here as a utility like Gibbons or Fisher are more ahead.
Forwards: Martin McKay Cuningham Betts Curnow McGovern Kennedy
Forward line looks pretty set to me. Kennedy might miss out for a more utility type in Silvagni or Gibbons. Perhaps even Fisher if he comes on.
Utilities: Fisher Casboult Silvagni Gibbons
Utilities are handy and you need a couple. Other players may come into this category like Martin and Cuningham. These guys are hand to fill spots where lesser players could be picked and are great for structure. Casboult is probably going to be unlucky at times although he was so good last year. He will put pressure on our other tall forwards that's for sure.
Maybe: Dow DeKoning Stocker Lang Cottrell
I see these guys as talented players but still a bit raw and still having areas to work on to get into the side and probably only missing out due to who's ahead of them. They need to go to the next level to be in the mix of the above and I'm hoping they do.
Outsiders: Kemp Pittonett Macreadie Ramsay Polson Philp Honey O'Dwyer Phillips Goddard Owies
Always hope to have an outside jump out of nowhere and make the best 22. Couldn't say who it could be. Kemp has the talent and ability. Macreadie has the ability. Owies did some good things last season. Honey and Ramsay are potential surprise packets.
Backs - SPS, Jones, Plowman
Half Backs - Docherty, Weitering, Newman
Midfielders - Murphy, Setterfield, Walsh
Half Forwards - Martin, C Curnow, Gibbons
Forwards - Betts, McKay, Silvagni
Followers - Kruezer, Cripps, E Curnow
Interchange - Casboult, Simpson, Fisher, McGovern
That for me is close to your best 22 without injuries to start the season.
I'd gladly have Silvagni and Cripps interchange between midfield and forward.
Players I would gladly rotate out for better options early in the season are Fisher and Gibbons. If someone like Dow, OBrien, Stocker, Newnes.... are having a great preseason, I could see them move into the squad. Unsure about the Docherty, Newman, Simpson, SPS quad small defenders, so one or two of them could either miss from the team or be rotated up the ground.
Marchbank - He covers tall defenders missing.
Philp - Hoping short term he can play a pressure small forward role if the Betts concept loses some ability. (Probably asking too much from a first year player) Just think his speed offers a point of difference in our team structure.
Half Backs - Docherty, Weitering, Newman
Midfielders - Murphy, Setterfield, Walsh
Half Forwards - Martin, C Curnow, Gibbons
Forwards - Betts, McKay, Silvagni
Followers - Kruezer, Cripps, E Curnow
Interchange - Casboult, Simpson, Fisher, McGovern
That for me is close to your best 22 without injuries to start the season.
I'd gladly have Silvagni and Cripps interchange between midfield and forward.
Players I would gladly rotate out for better options early in the season are Fisher and Gibbons. If someone like Dow, OBrien, Stocker, Newnes.... are having a great preseason, I could see them move into the squad. Unsure about the Docherty, Newman, Simpson, SPS quad small defenders, so one or two of them could either miss from the team or be rotated up the ground.
Marchbank - He covers tall defenders missing.
Philp - Hoping short term he can play a pressure small forward role if the Betts concept loses some ability. (Probably asking too much from a first year player) Just think his speed offers a point of difference in our team structure.
JuddgementDay
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Not really.
I was thinking from Newnes perspective, he wouldn't agree to a trade to play vfl
Would he have played vfl if he stayed with the Saints?
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missed Cuningham.
Best 22 all fit ...
Simpson. Jones. Plowman.
Docherty. Weitering. SPS.
Walsh. Ed Curnow. Setterfield.
Martin. Charlie Curnow. Cuningham.
Betts. McKay. McGovern.
R. Kreuzer. Cripps. Murphy.
I. Marchbank. Fisher. Gibbons. Casboult.
next few: JSOS. O’Brien. Williamson. Newman. Dow. Stocker. Newnes. Kennedy. TDK.
Round 1 22.
Simpson. Jones. Plowman.
Docherty. Weitering. SPS.
Walsh. Ed Curnow. Setterfield.
Martin. Casboult. Cuningham.
Betts. McKay. McGovern.
R. Kreuzer. Cripps. Murphy.
I. Marchbank. Fisher. Gibbons. Newnes.
if Williamson is fit and firing and Harry rucks well enough so Casboult is not required, then it gets interesting ...
edit to fix doubling up on Gibbons
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Actually, no I did not miss him. I just don't think he is in the best 22 when all are up and running.
But you think Gibbons is?
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Let’s agree to disagree.
The balance is what I am interested in up forward. talls, and smalls with pace and goal sense. So for me the 3 best Talls when all are up and firing are Charlie, Harry and Gov, and the Smalls are Martin, Betts and Cuningham. Gibbons is not a natural forward, so it’s about whether we play another small forward or rotate midfielders through a forward pocket.
JSOS and Casboult I think get games while Charlie is injured and if we prefer Harry not to ruck. Kennedy may well be stiff.
Defence it looks to me that Weitering, Jones, Plowman and Docherty are set, which leaves 6 players being SPS, Newman, Marchbank, Williamson, Stocker and Simpson fighting for 2 spots (and possibly a bench spot).
Midfield, wing, center and 2 bench spots ... Cripps RR, Murphy R, Ed Center, Walsh and Setterfield wings ... bench there are quite a few ... Fisher, O’Brien, Dow, Newnes, (and any of defenders or forwards who otherwise miss so Gibbons, Cuningham, SPS, Stocker, etc.).
Abilty to play 2 positions and speed may well separate the last 2 spots on the bench from the rest.
