Your second 22

[Andy_Mac]

FB: Jetta Dunn Garland
HB: Salem T McDonald Melksham
C: Stretch Jones Vandenberg
HF: Kent Hogan Brayshaw
FF: Petracca Pedersen Garlett
Foll: Gawn Vince Viney
Int: Tyson Watts Harmes Bugg

FB: Terlich Frost Hulett
HB: White O McDonald Lumumba
C: Grimes Trengove Newton
HF: Neal-Bullen Dawes Michie
FF: JKH Weideman Max King
Foll: Spencer Oliver Kennedy
Int: Mitch King, Wagner, Hunt, M Jones

Very hard to pick the last few spots of the best 22 for Melbourne. Not terrible options but no standouts either. In terms of a second 22 and depth I really like that we'll have a few good young talls developing at either end and some ball winning mids. The big issue for depth for Melbourne is in the run and class of the outside players and flankers, there's not a lot of depth there.

That's actually a pretty handy second 22.

Terlich is a dud, and Matt Jones is a good VFL level footballer, but other than that they all have up side. Particualy KPD are looking good.

 

[bananatigz]

Best 22:

B: Batchelor, Chaplin, Grimes
HB: Houli, Rance, Vlastuin
C: B.Ellis, Cotchin, McIntosh
HF: Deledio, Vickery, Lennon
F: Edwards, Reiwoldt, Griffiths
R: Maric, Martin, Miles
I: Yarran, Conca, Grigg, C.Ellis

Seconds:

B: Morris, Astbury, Broad*
HB: Hunt, Elton, Drummond
C: Menadue, Townsend, Castagna*
HF: Butler*, McBean, Markov*
F: Rioli*, McKenzie*, Lloyd
R: Hampson, A.Moore, Lambert
I: C.Moore*, Marcon*, Short*, Chol*

* Yet to play an AFL game

 

[M Malice]

best 22.
B. d.mcstay d.merrett h.andrews
HB. r.harwood j.clarke t.cutler
C. p.hanley d.zorko d.rich
HF. m.close j.walker l.taylor
F. j.green j.freeman m.robinson
R. s.martin d.beams t.rockliff
INT. a.christensen t.bell r.bastinac s.mayes

second 22. age, games.
B. r.william 18 0 d.gardner 20 25 h.beasley 20 6
HB. c.beams 24 36 m.paparone 21 45 l.dawson 19 10
C. b.keays 18 0 n.robertson 20 20 r.lester 23 61
HF. r.bewick 26 78 j.paine 22 12 j.clayton 19 0
F. j.mcgrath 19 3 j.schache 18 0 e. hipwood 18 0
R. t.west 28 66 r.matheison 18 0 j.jansen 20 0
INT. b.evans 19 5 s.skinner 18 0 j.watts 19 0 j.mcginness 20 0

that gives our second 22 an average age of 20.3 and average games of 16.6.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Carlton would kill for half of those players, probably more than half of them.

Not only Carlton every team would. That is an embarrassment of riches

 

[ManOfClay]

Why would you draft in Adcock and not have him in your best 22?

Because he's on the rookie list...

 

[RUNVS]

Not only Carlton every team would. That is an embarrassment of riches

It really is. I was just saying Carlton as I think half those players would either be in Carlton's best 22 or be very close to it. The UWS Giants comfortably beat the Sydney Swans in the NEAFL most of the time.

 

[eth-dog]

Best 22:

Hooker - Hartley - Baguley
Gleeson - Hurley - Hibberd
Stanton - Watson - Myers
Laverde - McKernan - Colyer
Zaharakis - Daniher - Fantasia
Leuenberger - Heppell - Hocking
Bird - Z Merrett - Goddard - J Merrett

Reserves (Age, games):

Ashby (21, 10) - Pears (25, 70) - Tipungwuti (22, 0)
Francis (18, 0) - Gwilt (29, 137) - Morgan (19, 0)
Cooney (30, 230) - Langford (19, 8) - Parish (18, 0)
Eades (18, 0) - Brown (25, 15) - Edwards (22, 21)
Long (19, 0) - Bellchambers (26, 79) - McKenna (19, 2)
Nyuon (18, 0) - Hams (21, 5) - Howlett (27, 117)
Wallis (18, 0) - Redman (18, 0) - Dempsey (28, 119) - Ambrose (24, 32) - Kommer (25, 19)

Makes the average age of the reserves 22 and the average games played at 37, and that's not factoring former AFL players like Polkinghorne and Schroder.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Best 22:

Hooker - Hartley - Baguley
Gleeson - Hurley - Hibberd
Stanton - Watson - Myers
Laverde - McKernan - Colyer
Zaharakis - Daniher - Fantasia
Leuenberger - Heppell - Hocking
Bird - Z Merrett - Goddard - J Merrett

Reserves (Age, games):

Ashby (21, 10) - Pears (25, 70) - Tipungwuti (22, 0)
Francis (18, 0) - Gwilt (29, 137) - Morgan (19, 0)
Cooney (30, 230) - Langford (19, 8) - Parish (18, 0)
Eades (18, 0) - Brown (25, 15) - Edwards (22, 21)
Long (19, 0) - Bellchambers (26, 79) - McKenna (19, 2)
Nyuon (18, 0) - Hams (21, 5) - Howlett (27, 117)
Wallis (18, 0) - Redman (18, 0) - Dempsey (28, 119) - Ambrose (24, 32) - Kommer (25, 19)

Makes the average age of the reserves 22 and the average games played at 37, and that's not factoring former AFL players like Polkinghorne and Schroder.

Interesting both you & a colleague have Cooney in the 2nds side.

Gather you now see him as depth. How many games do you expect him to play? Gather it will be his last season.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

This is what I'd have as best 22 right now:

B: Jon Marsh ~ Nathan Brown ~ Marley Williams
HB: Travis Varcoe ~ Ben Reid ~ Brayden Maynard

M: Steele Sidebottom ~ Taylor Adams ~ Jack Crisp
R: Brodie Grundy ~ Scott Pendlebury ~ Adam Treloar

HF: Alex Fasolo ~ Travis Cloke ~ Dane Swan
F: Jarrod Witts ~ Darcy Moore ~ Jamie Elliott

I/C: Jordan De Goey ~ Jeremy Howe ~ Tom Langdon ~ James Aish


So second 22 would be something like:

B: Mathew Scharenberg* ~ Jack Frost ~ Jackson Ramsay
HB: Ben Sinclair ~ Tyson Goldsack ~ Adam Oxley

M: Mathew Goodyear ~ Brent Maccaffer ~ Tom Phillips
R: Mason Cox ~ Levi Greenwood ~ Brayden Sier

HF: Ben Crocker ~ Jessie White ~ Tim Broomhead
F: Darrean Wyatt ~ Corey Gault ~ Jarryd Blair

I/C: Alan Toovey ~ Rupert Wills ~ Josh Smith ~ Tim Golds

Strong midfield when Greenwood can't make the team.

If turns out to be the case, perhaps a poor career move for him?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Best:

Krakeour Carlile Trengove
Broadbent Hombsch Pittard
Ebert Wines Polec
Wingard Dixon Hartlett
Neade Schulz Westhoff
Ryder Boak Gray

Monfries White Jonas Ah Chee

2nd:

FB: O'Shea Clurey Bonner
HB: Colquhoun Austin Impey
C: Mitchell S.Gray Toumpas
HF: Amon Butcher P.Stewart
FF: Howard Frampton Palmer
R: Lobbe Snelling Young

I/C: Byrne-Jones Hewett Houston Johnson

How many teams have named their vice captain in their 2nd side...

I suspect you will be right unless Wada change things up.

Although Kenny has talked about going taller if the talls are all in form with 4 interchange bench.

 

[mike123]

Strong midfield when Greenwood can't make the team.

If turns out to be the case, perhaps a poor career move for him?

I didn't count on the development of Crisp and a couple of others when he got here, nor did I expect us to recruit Treloar the year after. I suspect he'll still get games but I don't think we need another poor kicking inside midfielder in the side.

 

[eth-dog]

Interesting both you & a colleague have Cooney in the 2nds side.

Gather you now see him as depth. How many games do you expect him to play? Gather it will be his last season.

I'm hoping no more than 10. Of the smalls, I would rather have Howlett, Langford, Edwards, Ashby, Francis and at a stretch Dempsey get games ahead of him in that reserves side.

Given the (hopefully) improved midfield and forward line (add Howlett, Cooney, Dempsey, Hams, Ambrose, Kommer, Bellchambers, Brown and Gwilt playing a lot more reserves next year) we can really push for a VFL flag.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Carlton would kill for half of those players, probably more than half of them.

Give it time.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Best 22
FB: Garland Dunn Jetta
HB: Salem T McDonald Bugg
C: Melksham Tyson Vince
HF: Watts Pedersen Vandenberg
FF: Garlett Hogan Kent
R: Gawn N Jones Viney

I/C: Brayshaw Harmes Lumumba Newton/Michie/Petracca

Second best 22

FB: White Frost Terlich
HB: Grimes O McDonald Stretch
C: Oliver Neal-Bullen Trengove
HF: Newton Dawes Kennedy
FF: Petracca Weideman JKH
R: Spencer Michie M Jones

I/C: Hulett King Hunt Wagner

Have forgotten someone and don't care enough to think who.

 

[rgauci]

1sts
Spurr(28) Dawson(29) Ibbotson(27)
Sutcliffe(23) Johnson(31) Sheridan(21)
Hill(25) Fyfe(24) D.Pearce(29)
Bennell(23) Pavlich(33) Walters(24)
Ballantyne(28) Taberner(22) Griffin(29)
Sandilands(32) Mundy(30) Neale(22)
Int: Barlow(27) DeBoer(25) Mayne(26) Suban(25)

2nds
Collins(20) T.Smith(21) Silvagni(28)
Hughes(20) A.Pearce(20) C.Pearce(25)
Langdon(19) Morabito(23) Mzungu(29)
Crozier(21) Hurley(23) Weller(19)
Hannath(24) Apeness(20) S.Yarran(26)
Clarke(25) Blakeley(19) Grey(20)
Int: Tucker(18) Balic (18) Uebergang (20) Nyhuis (19) Deluca (19)

 

[Adnan]

Seniors 22:
FB Toovey, Brown, Williams
HB Maynard, Reid, Langdon
C Aish, Adams, Sidebottom
FOL Grundy, Treloar, Pendlebury
HF Swan, Moore, Howe
FF Elliott, Cloke, Fasolo
INT Greenwood, DeGoey, Crisp, Varcoe

Reserves 22:

FB Ramsey, Frost, Sinclair
HB Scharenberg^, Marsh, Goldsack
C Phillips, Sier, Oxley
FOL Witts, McCaffer, Smith*
HF Broomhead, Cox*, Blair
FF Crocker , White, Gault*
INT Wills, Goodyear, Gold*, Wyatt*
SUSP Keefe**, Thomas**

Note:
** ineligible to play in 2016
* Rookies
^ Long Term Injury

Main squad looks solid with only the backline which will need tuning. Also a lot of inside depth and a new look forward line will create havoc not just for Bucks setting the team but hopefully the opposition as well.
I think off the reserves, I think Marsh would be one of the main men to step up incase of a backline fix with Frosty and Goldy next in line who are more than capable of playing seniors football. Witts will come in when required against stronger ruckman in the AFL and of the Midfield, asides from all the development going on i think Broomhead and Oxley would be first in line followed by recuits Phillips and Smith who will have to show thier true colours in the VFL before getting a gig. Sharenberg re-injuring his knee will have to be managed but in time should find himself in the 22.

 

[datwhitey]

This is what I'd have as best 22 right now:

B: Jon Marsh ~ Nathan Brown ~ Marley Williams
HB: Travis Varcoe ~ Ben Reid ~ Brayden Maynard

M: Steele Sidebottom ~ Taylor Adams ~ Jack Crisp
R: Brodie Grundy ~ Scott Pendlebury ~ Adam Treloar

HF: Alex Fasolo ~ Travis Cloke ~ Dane Swan
F: Jarrod Witts ~ Darcy Moore ~ Jamie Elliott

I/C: Jordan De Goey ~ Jeremy Howe ~ Tom Langdon ~ James Aish


So second 22 would be something like:

B: Mathew Scharenberg* ~ Jack Frost ~ Jackson Ramsay
HB: Ben Sinclair ~ Tyson Goldsack ~ Adam Oxley

M: Mathew Goodyear ~ Brent Maccaffer ~ Tom Phillips
R: Mason Cox ~ Levi Greenwood ~ Brayden Sier

HF: Ben Crocker ~ Jessie White ~ Tim Broomhead
F: Darrean Wyatt ~ Corey Gault ~ Jarryd Blair

I/C: Alan Toovey ~ Rupert Wills ~ Josh Smith ~ Tim Golds

That's pretty much the first team I'd prefer to see, Mike123 (with the exception of Shaz if / when fit)

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Keeffe and Thomas are also ineligble for reserves. Unfair to put Golds on the bench behind two players who are suspended!

And Toovey may be under pressure but hes currently best 22. And failing that hes definitley best 18 in the VFL team

 

[Stucky]

1st 22.

B. Henderson, Lonergan, Kolojashnij
HB. Enright, Taylor, Thurlow
C. Motlop, Dangerfield, Duncan
H.F. Caddy, Vardy, J.Selwood
F. Menzel, Hawkins, Lang
R. Z.Smith, Blicavs, Guthrie
I/C. Bartel, Stanley, Murdoch, Cockatoo

2nd 22.

B. Bews(22 23) Delaney(23 6) Cowan(24 5)
HB. Mackie(31 235) Parsons(18 0) Ruggles(23 0)
C. Smedts(23 37) Menegola(23 0) Bates(20 0)
H.F. Gregson(19 20) M.Clark(28 105) Cunico(19 0)
F. Luxford(20 2) Kersten(22 20) McCarthy(22 5)
R. Read(19 0) Horlin-Smith(23 39) S.Selwood(25 135)
I/C, Lucey, Buzza, Hayball, Cornell, Gardner

 

[Bigeasy]

1st 22.

B. Henderson, Lonergan, Kolojashnij
HB. Enright, Taylor, Thurlow
C. Motlop, Dangerfield, Duncan
H.F. Caddy, Vardy, J.Selwood
F. Menzel, Hawkins, Lang
R. Z.Smith, Blicavs, Guthrie
I/C. Bartel, Stanley, Murdoch, Cockatoo

2nd 22.

B. Bews(22 23) Delaney(23 6) Cowan(24 5)
HB. Mackie(31 235) Parsons(18 0) Ruggles(23 0)
C. Smedts(23 37) Menegola(23 0) Bates(20 0)
H.F. Gregson(19 20) M.Clark(28 105) Cunico(19 0)
F. Luxford(20 2) Kersten(22 20) McCarthy(22 5)
R. Read(19 0) Horlin-Smith(23 39) S.Selwood(25 135)
I/C, Lucey, Buzza, Hayball, Cornell, Gardner

Great looking 1st team defence on paper. My only criticism would be that it may be a bit slow? Maybe drop a tall and bring in pace like Bews???

 

[Stucky]

Great looking 1st team defence on paper. My only criticism would be that it may be a bit slow? Maybe drop a tall and bring in pace like Bews???

Bews will play most of the year on the small forwards, also Guthrie apparently will be spending more time down back.

 

[Bigeasy]

Bews will play most of the year on the small forwards, also Guthrie apparently will be spending more time down back.

Thats what i would have thought. Bewsy makes a few mistakes but he seems to be improving and adds run and dash.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Great looking 1st team defence on paper. My only criticism would be that it may be a bit slow? Maybe drop a tall and bring in pace like Bews???

Bews doesn't have the tank. I know the family. Hence why Guthrie has been earmarked for more defensive minutes.

 

[coniglio_number1]

Best 22:

Hooker - Hartley - Baguley
Gleeson - Hurley - Hibberd
Stanton - Watson - Myers
Laverde - McKernan - Colyer
Zaharakis - Daniher - Fantasia
Leuenberger - Heppell - Hocking
Bird - Z Merrett - Goddard - J Merrett

Reserves (Age, games):

Ashby (21, 10) - Pears (25, 70) - Tipungwuti (22, 0)
Francis (18, 0) - Gwilt (29, 137) - Morgan (19, 0)
Cooney (30, 230) - Langford (19, 8) - Parish (18, 0)
Eades (18, 0) - Brown (25, 15) - Edwards (22, 21)
Long (19, 0) - Bellchambers (26, 79) - McKenna (19, 2)
Nyuon (18, 0) - Hams (21, 5) - Howlett (27, 117)
Wallis (18, 0) - Redman (18, 0) - Dempsey (28, 119) - Ambrose (24, 32) - Kommer (25, 19)

Makes the average age of the reserves 22 and the average games played at 37, and that's not factoring former AFL players like Polkinghorne and Schroder.

Hypothetically what would be the best 22 if the wada ban happens? Surely wouldn't be too many players unavailable.

 

[Heaps of fun]

I didn't count on the development of Crisp and a couple of others when he got here, nor did I expect us to recruit Treloar the year after. I suspect he'll still get games but I don't think we need another poor kicking inside midfielder in the side.

You'd think Pies would look to trade him next year then. Can't have a 400k p/a seconds player, especially not for three years.