Traded Zach Tuohy [traded to Geelong with 2017 2nd rd pk for Smedts, 2017 1st rd pk and pick 63]

[Stevi_Tigers]

this deal is funny one tuohy is not worth a first round pick and 2nd smedts is a spud

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Smedts adds zero value to the trade, he is a complete spud who will be delisted in a year (or two because I assume we gave him a 2yr deal).

Terrible deal for Carlton. FFS Silvagni you better not screw up the Gibbs deal too

Smedts is basically a salary dump for us as you guys are paying his contract.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Similar to the menzel deal last year. Feels like unders If both teams finish where expected. But if it helps the gws trade, then it's not so bad.

 

[The 747]

Don't mind getting Touhy and getting rid of Billie but FFS stop trading our first picks for mature players you shortsighted fools.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Cats are the new Port in hating 1sts

 

[Gumby2Hurley]

Could end up being a pick near 10 if the Cats forward line struggles again.

 

[The 747]

Could end up being a pick near 10 if the Cats forward line struggles again.

They struggled this year as you say what pick did we get?

 

[Tiger Toffee]

So i gather the 2 in 4 rule has now been binned and will now pave the way for top teams to just throw 1st rounders away year after year to land young guns unless Geelong have been told that have to trade back into the 2017 1st round next year, if not then pandora's box just got opened.

 

[Furn2]

the punishment for not using 2 1sts is not being able to trade future 1sts.

 

[Gumby2Hurley]

They struggled this year as you say what pick did we get?

Your forward line struggled during the finals and i don't see a key tall who will make it better in 2017.

 

[Chism]

Any Cats supporters think that our future 2nd could be used to help lure Deledio??

 

[The 747]

Your forward line struggled during the finals and i don't see a key tall who will make it better in 2017.

No doubt, but we finished 3rd with that scenario this year.

 

[JD Tomahawk]

If we can get Smedts body right and keep him on the park he could be real handy for us and he can play.

Massive X factor player that can turn games on their head with 3 possessions.

I likey and well done SOS.

I feel sick reading that. Cmon man why would you say such a thing, and in public aswell

 

[TheHunterCripps]

Echoes of the Menzel for 28 & Kerridge deal. Doesn't look good on the surface, but likely SOS has reached agreement with GWS that they'll part with Marchbank and Pickett (and maybe one more makes it a better deal) for a late 1st. If it turns out to be Zac + 2017 2nd (#20) for Marchbank, Pickett, third GWS player, Smedts it's a decent outcome.

 

[pinot]

Tell that to most Carlton fans who seem to think that with Gibbs gone, Tuohy gone, and potential development in Essendon/Gold Coast/Fremantle, that you'll likely slip a few spots as you cement the rebuild.

Which isn't a bad thing, you need time into those young key position players from 2015 and the midfielders you will pick up this year. Another top 5 pick next year won't go astray either.

We are hard to kick goals against - our defence is our saving grace. Hope Gibbs stays and Murphy plays full season.

Hopefully McKay, Curnow and Silvagni play the full year together.

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

Very nice piece of business by SOS.

Smedts is a banana, SOS has been reamed in a manner the Impaler would wish upon Essendon supporters.

 

[Chism]

I feel sick reading that. Cmon man why would you say such a thing, and in public aswell

His body is the issue not his talent.

You guys took him at #15 with your 1st pick in 2010 which he competed to get into a Flag winning side and then he was struck down with injury.

I am happy regardless what Cat supporters think in hindsight after the fact he has been traded.

 

[pinot]

for a 24 year old Smedts is rubbish... maybe a new environment will help him but not counting on it... another Tutt running out in VFL

 

[pinot]

We are bringing in a list clogger make no mistake

2015 Season
1 Haw Got found out at times when caught having to defend one-on-one. 4
2 Frem Had Walters at times and defensively was better. Better than in Rd 1. 4
3 Suspended.
4 VFL Bye. -
5 VFL Injured collarbone early and took no further part. -
6 Collarbone.
7 Shoulder.
8 Collarbone.
9 Collarbone.
10 Collarbone.
11 Collarbone.
12 VFL Impressive on return from injury. 20 possessions. -
13 VFL Bye. -
14 VFL Not the impact he’d hope to have with just 16 touches. -
15 VFL Laid 11 tackles and was solid across half back. -
16 VFL Cats’ best with 30 possessions in loss to Dogs. -
17 GWS Surprise selection for the vest. Got very little time to showcase talent. 1
18 Bris Tried hard but things didn’t pan out a lot of the time. Might keep his spot. 4
19 VFL One of the few Cats' to win his position. 23 possessions. -
20 VFL Cats’ best across half back. 28 disposals. -
21 Didn’t play for Geelong VFL.
22 VFL Re-invigorated after new contract. 31 touches in win. -
23 -
2014 Season
1 Leg.
2 Leg.
3 Leg.
4 Leg.
5 Leg.
6 Leg.
7 Leg.
8 Leg.
9 Leg.
10 VFL Got through OK after long injury layoff. -
11 Syd Rusty as farm gate. Poor decision making cost team two goals in first term. 1
12 Carl Apart from five minute burst in second he was horrendous down back. 2
13 StK Couple of touches down back but not a big influence on the contest. 4
14 GCS Looked shaky down back and made costly mistakes throughout. 2
15 VFL Did well enough down back, but wasn’t overly extended. -
16 VFL Had 13 touches but wasn’t his best outing. -
17 VFL Cats’ leading ball winner with 24. Battled hard against the tide. -
18 VFL Solid outing in massive win over Sandringham. -
19 VFL Topped disposal count with 31, took nine marks at half back. -
20 VFL Quiet game by his standards with just 11 touches. -
21 Carl Couple of his kicks were horrible. Subbed out at three-quarter time. 3
22 VFL Worked diligently on his defensive pursuits. Good effort. -
23 Bris Sub. Two possessions not enough to even enter selection discussions this week. 1
QF -
SF -
PF -
GF -
2013 Season
1 Haw Kicked two great goals which proved critical. 1
2 NM Not huge stats but did show some courage at times to please coach. 3
3 Carl Kicked two goals so played his role but had some quiet patches. 4
4 Syd Quiet night and was subbed out at three-quarter time. Kicked one goal. 2
5 WB Darted around for 15 disposals and five inside-50s. Played a role in the win. 5
6 Rich Two set shot goals his highlight but was relatively quiet. 4
7 Ess Again made most of opportunities to kick two goals. Does bob up. 6
8 Coll Injured knee in first term and returned briefly but day was done. 1
9 Ankle.
10 VFL Had 16 possessions and was a consistent contributor. -
11 GWS Buzzed around half forward but not a huge factor. Missed two goals. 4
13 VFL Slow start, but got better as the game wore on. Played his part. -
14 VFL Worked into the game before a big final term helped seal the win. -
15 VFL Really good early until rested for the second half. -
16 Melb Nipped in and out of the contest. Had seven clearances and eight inside-50s. 6
17 Adel Struggled to get into the game. Will need to lift to retain place in the side. 3
18 StK Took a couple of nice marks and used down back after half time. 5
19 NM On in final term and kicked a goal. That was his only contribution. 1
20 VFL Played his role well in Cats big win. Nice young player. -
21 VFL Quiet game but stepped up when required late. -
22 VFL Pushed forward for a goal and did some good hard work around the ball. -
23 VFL Looked classy at stages in tough conditions on a wintery Friday night. -
QF
SF VFL Did a few handy things but wasn’t a standout. -
PF VFL Horrible. Easy to see why he’s been in VFL for past two months. -
GF
2012 Season
1 Frem Debutant found pace hot at times but also looked smooth at others. 4
2 Haw Really good in third term when side was beaten. Subbed off later. 4
5 Bris Cooled his heels until late in third term but only had two possessions. 1
6 Melb Stats not huge but what he did had some polish about it. 4
7 Adel Youngster at least had a willingness to take the game on. OK. 5
8 Coll Kid found the going tough and subbed off late in third term. Might need rest. 1
10 GWS Late inclusion for Enright, OK in the back half. 5
11 VFL One of the Cats best against Port. Ran hard. -
13 VFL Used on a wing and showed his versatility. -
14 Port Probably best game for the club. Played with some dash and poise. 6
15 GCS Busy playing predominantly up forward he was busy enough – faded late. 5
16 Coll Really battled up forward playing defensively then sent back later. 3
17 Ess Best effort in short career. Kicked three goals and worked well up forward. 6
18 Adel Chimed in with a goal and four inside-50s. Starting to find his feet at this level. 5
19 Haw Starting to look a player. Made a key play to set up Hawkins' fifth goal late. 6
22 WB Didn’t get into the game at all after being subbed on and quarter-time. 1

 

[pinot]

Tutt is a better player

2015 Season
1 -
2 WCE Former Dog served up some of the stuff that got him cut from his former club. 2
3 VFL Starred with three goals and 30 touches in nail-biting defeat. -
4 Soreness.
5 VFL Had 18 disposals but didn’t lay a single tackle. -
6 VFL Got a bit more inside ball to go with outside run. 29 touches. -
7 GWS 23 touches but butchered ball by foot. Needs to do better. 4
8 Geel Ability to kick ball 10 metres was horrid. No tackles. At least he got the ball. 5
9 Syd Looks uncomfortable when there is any pressure on him. Struggled. 3
10 Adel Struggled. Only four effective disposals. Played with very little poise. 2
12 VFL Sat out on wing and tried to use pace to break lines. Fair. -
13 VFL 11 possessions and was in and out. -
14 WB Late inclusion for Rowe and provided run against old club. 5
15 Rich Sub. On early to replace Jamison. Made too many mistakes despite effort. 4
16 Frem Tried hard and kicked a goal. 5
17 Haw Kept making mistakes each time he went near the ball. Offered little. 3
18 NM Ran very wide and couldn’t sniff it. Subbed out. 2
19 Ankle.
20 VFL Provided an outlet on the wing to end with 25 possessions. -
21 Melb Almost the barometer for the opposition. When plays well your in trouble. 7
22 GWS Run was OK but needs to add contested ball to his repertoire. 5
23 Haw Handy accumulator on outside. One of the better Blues. 6
2014 Season
Played for : Western Bulldogs

1 PM Gave good run on a wing. -
2 PM Linked well through midfield and added some toe. -
3 VFL Provided good run on a wing. -
4 GWS Sub. On early for Morris and kicked two goals. Provided crucial run. 5
5 VFL Broke the game open when he tucked the ball under his arm. Good. -
6 VFL Used on a wing and broke the game open with pace and kicking. -
7 VFL Provided some run on the outside on a tight, contested day. -
8 Melb Two goals in final term proved critical in the wash-up. Steady. 6
10 GCS Gave some much-needed run and kicked two goals. 6
11 Frem Lively early. Had six inside 50s. 5
12 Bris Played at half forward and on a wing opposed to Harwood. Gave some run. 5
13 Coll Kicked two goals including the sealer. 6
14 Port Normally a sharpshooter but missed two easy shots. 4
15 Concussion.
16 VFL Ran hard and kicked a nice early goal. -
17 VFL Burst in and out of the game with a few customary dashes. -
18 VFL Wasn’t a big factor on the outside despite Dogs’ dominance. -
19 VFL 19 touches and drove the ball forward and ran hard. -
20 VFL Kicked three goals. Provided great outside run and carry. -
21 VFL Ran hard on a wing to press his claims for a senior recall. -
22 VFL Wayward in front of big sticks but had 23 touches. -
23 VFL Good on the outside again with 21 touches and a goal. -
QF -
SF VFL Broke the game open through middle with speed at times. -
PF VFL Important in patches with enthusiasm and willingness to run. -
GF -
2013 Season
Played for : Western Bulldogs


1 VFL Broke the lines and gave great drive off a wing. -
2 VFL Bye. -
3 VFL Ran hard and helped break the game open with speed. -
4 Adel Ineffective display from the small half forward. 3
5 Geel Quiet start but really lifted in the second half to be a factor forward of centre. 5
6 WCE On another young player in Smith and wasn’t a standout. 4
7 NM Hardly sighted. Subbed off in third quarter. 1
8 VFL Broke the lines a few times, but was in and out of the game. -
9 VFL Continued to break the lines and provide good drive. -
10 Senior emergency.
12 VFL Gave some run, but wasn’t a major influence. -
13 VFL Worked up from the forward line to link through midfield. Fair game. -
14 VFL Found space on a wing and was handy driving the ball forward. -
15 GWS The Canberran struggled with his disposal in his first game since Round 7. 3
16 Ess Used his speed at times but has to make better decisions when he gets it. 4
17 Haw Pumped the ball inside 50 on five occasions, but did not do much else. 4
18 WCE Handy enough with 12 disposals in first half then faded in second. 5
19 Syd Showed some good breakaway pace on McVeigh early. 4
20 Carl Sub. Gave run and dash when he came on and managed to hit the scoreboard (1.2). 2
21 Senior emergency.
22 Bris Sub. Had a chance late to kick a key goal but missed. It’s a chance he has to take. 1
23 Senior emergency.
QF VFL Consistently broke the lines and was rewarded with five goals. -
SF VFL Battled hard after a standout game last week. -
PF

 

[Bic]

Not too bad a trade in the end.

I just hope Geelong loses every game next year

*Though, I have a feeling this pick could be used to get Marchbank/Pickett

 

[Theo X]

WTF are Geelong thinking giving up a 1st rounder for this guy.

 

[pinot]

WTF are Geelong thinking giving up a 1st rounder for this guy.

Cats are getting a player

2016 Season
1 Rich Gave customary run off half back but wasn’t able to press as far forward as he can do. 5
2 Syd Enjoyed a very good game in 100th outing for the Blues. Used it well from defence. 7
3 GCS Booted a goal courtesy of a 50m penalty and was useful. 5
4 WB Plugged away in the back end. Got caught with the ball a few times and not one of his better games. 4
5 Frem Kept Freo’s forwards quiet. 6
6 Ess Made a few mistakes down back but got better when it mattered late in the game. 5
7 Coll Matched up on debutant Crocker and spent time on Blair. Steady but not his best day. 5
8 Port Gave some rebound and long goal from outside 50 in second term helped keep pressure on. 6
9 NM Unable to provide attacking drive off half back due to North’s dominance. 4
10 Geel Hammered Motlop in a fine defensive effort that helped the side contain the Cats’ forward line. 8
11 Bris Outstanding game. Broke the lines from defence and penetrating by foot. 8
12 StK Made some good runs and took the game on when he could. 6
14 GWS Finished with six rebounds and made good decisions by foot out of the back half. 5
15 Coll Terrible night. Used it poorly and was weak defensively. 2
16 Adel Great battle against Betts (three goals) but he was a factor going other way. 7
17 WCE Cripps gave him some problems but offensively he kept taking the game on. 7
18 Syd Impressive effort in defence. Got plenty of it and had five rebound-50s. 7
19 Haw Best game for year. Had the ball on a string. Six inside 50s from half back. 8
20 StK Booted three long-range goals off half-back to be the Blues best attacking weapon. Says it all. 8
21 Bris Lifted after half time to be part of the midfield resurgence. Had 14 disposals in second half. 7
22 Melb OK at half back without being at rebounding best. 6
23 Ess Defensively average but was decent on the rebound. Used it better than most. 6
2015 Season
1 Rich Set up a nice running goal but not a big factor. 5
2 WCE Took Cripps/Le Cras and did a good job. Battled hard. 6
3 Ess Among better Blues because of his ability to win one-on-one contests 7
4 StK Back to his hard-running long-kicking best of a couple of years back. 8
5 Coll Quiet. Couldn’t get anything going at half back. 4
6 Bris OK early in the game then his run and rebound fell away after main break. 5
7 GWS Had Greene and was fair. Pressed forward to boot a goal. 6
8 Geel Failed to tackle (zero) and was poor one-on-one in defence. 3
9 Syd Better than previous week but still short of best. One great set shot goal. 6
10 Adel Brilliant job on Betts. Kept him to three kicks and one goal. 8
12 Port Took Wingard and found that a nightmare match-up. Battled hard but beaten. 3
13 GCS Huge game. Kicked great running goal and repelled everything. 8
14 WB Good battle with Stringer (three goals) but provided valuable run from defence. 7
15 Rich Great game down back. Did some fine things one-on-one and won the ball. 8
16 Frem Kicked a goal, made some errors. It was an up and down night. 6
17 Haw Had Gunston for long period and found that a tough match-up. 3
18 NM Unable to give enough drive from back half. 5
19 Coll Quieter than normal and wasn't able to get ball flowing from defence. 5
20 Bris No impact of note. 5
21 Melb Involved in Garlett match-up and beat others. Solid effort down back. 7
22 GWS Gave Smith too much rein in front half. 4
23 Haw Started on Burgoyne in defence and gave good run once the Hawk went off. 7

 

[SickQwon]

Wait is this a trade where both clubs lose?

 

[peppy la pew]

for a 24 year old Smedts is rubbish... maybe a new environment will help him but not counting on it... another Tutt running out in VFL

I swear I read somewhere he has a real attitude problem