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Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach
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The quality of injured AFL player is irrelevant to SANFL performance, it’s purely about number of injuries. But I don’t expect you to understand something so ridiculously simple.
In 2020 he did bring back Gibbs, Knight and Rat before ruling the permanent line through them. There’s a chance it’s as a result of outside pressure. Problem is crouch racked up meaningless stats as per usual, not sure he gets dropped from here. Milera likely gets backed in, it’s how we roll.
It’s a free hit, can’t just dump Milera for a baddie, lots were bad. He gets next week to respond. They probably all do, this is our continuity 22.
I'm in the camp that the list is a bigger issue than coaching. Nicks has been here 3 years and our drafting since he came in has been ok thus far. Under Pyke it was bust after bust. I'm not sure the extent of what Nicks is involved in with list management. Selection at times is horrendous (Sloane midfield, Milera/Crouch today), but otherwise but what more do people want from him?
None of our forwards are reliable, not a single one. We rotate KPPs outside of Butts/Walker non stop because none of them can hold their spot. Only until a month ago did our young mids look like they're best 22 and good. Hamil/Jones cant accumulate for shit down back. We constantly try players in different positions, we've been bailed out by picking up good late/rookie picks which makes us somewhat competitive.
Need to be aggressive with delisting this year, go to the draft again and build on the young core of Berry, Hately, Rachele, TT, Soligo, Butts.
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What I find most concerning about Nicks' coaching at the moment has nothing to do with tactics, but player selection and his long term vision. There's a huge group of players he still hasn't figured out whether they are best 22 players worth persisting with, or spuds for the delist pile
We've just dropped Jones and Sholl. We've yo-yoed Rowe in and out of the team. We've tried Himmelberg again. We've tried Fogarty again. We've swapped between Murray and Frampton. We've gone back to McAdam after he started out of the side. We tried then dropped Cook. We've yo-yoed Schoenberg and Soligo. We've tried then dropped Gollant. We're only just starting to see what Berry and Hately have to offer. Hamill is now back after a hiatus.
You would think over time Nicks would be trying to find players to add to his collection of core players that are best 22 week in week out. But in his time as coach, who has he added to the core. Butts and Keays for sure. McHenry? Seedsman before he was injured?
There doesn't seem to be any goal here to find out which players are worth persisting with or not, and his core group of go-to players has barely increased, if anything it's stagnated with some players leaving or retiring.
He doesn't seem to have much of a long term plan for players we've spent good resources on, like Pedlar, Thilthorpe, Cook, Schoenberg... It's far too much about week to week form for these players, rather than thinking about how we build them into long term AFL players
Then on the flip side he's wedded to extremely average low ceiling players or players that are not long term options, and it ends up affecting the up and comers. For example we have both Hamill and Jones vying for a spot in defense and the form of both is looking okay though patchy. Instead of finding a way to nurture both in the same team (eg by dropping a guy that's not a long term option, Luke Brown), we make it into a week by week form contest between the young guys to see who can win the spot. Or we just block spots entirely by insisting bog average players like Crouch or Murphy play most weeks.
We've just dropped Jones and Sholl. We've yo-yoed Rowe in and out of the team. We've tried Himmelberg again. We've tried Fogarty again. We've swapped between Murray and Frampton. We've gone back to McAdam after he started out of the side. We tried then dropped Cook. We've yo-yoed Schoenberg and Soligo. We've tried then dropped Gollant. We're only just starting to see what Berry and Hately have to offer. Hamill is now back after a hiatus.
You would think over time Nicks would be trying to find players to add to his collection of core players that are best 22 week in week out. But in his time as coach, who has he added to the core. Butts and Keays for sure. McHenry? Seedsman before he was injured?
There doesn't seem to be any goal here to find out which players are worth persisting with or not, and his core group of go-to players has barely increased, if anything it's stagnated with some players leaving or retiring.
He doesn't seem to have much of a long term plan for players we've spent good resources on, like Pedlar, Thilthorpe, Cook, Schoenberg... It's far too much about week to week form for these players, rather than thinking about how we build them into long term AFL players
Then on the flip side he's wedded to extremely average low ceiling players or players that are not long term options, and it ends up affecting the up and comers. For example we have both Hamill and Jones vying for a spot in defense and the form of both is looking okay though patchy. Instead of finding a way to nurture both in the same team (eg by dropping a guy that's not a long term option, Luke Brown), we make it into a week by week form contest between the young guys to see who can win the spot. Or we just block spots entirely by insisting bog average players like Crouch or Murphy play most weeks.
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Any chance this dimwit will learn something from the ROB response to being held accountable for his form? Could Brown be next?
Brown out would really throw the average games per player off. He should be dropped but Nicks is gonna go as experienced as possible with each loss.
Of course they will respond against a rabble. We wont know until the following week. The following week is after the bye. Nicks better start getting his shit together after the bye otherwise his demise may come sooner rather than later.
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I think a lot of people in here are underestimating west coast, yes they are pretty shit this year but they usually play well at Adelaide Oval and even darling kicked 4 against the dogs today, imagine what he’s going to kick on Murray or Frampton next week. Wouldn’t be getting ahead of ourselves after 5 losses.
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lol well they did beat collingwood this year, wouldn’t be so sure we win next week, I’m not confident at all.Underestimating? They’re performing a virtuoso symphony of tanking
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We cant be aggressive with delisting this year..
Got bugger all players out of contract to delist.. And half of those that are out of contract we want to probably keep..
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One comparison I tend to make is Matthew Nicks vs Justin Longmuir.
Both did similar lengths of time as assistants, both hired as rookie coaches in 2019, both inheriting lists not bursting with stars and are now into their 3rd season as head coaches.
Yes I get it, the playing lists are different, we have a younger playing group and list management hasn’t done Nicks any favours.
But you compare the coaching styles against each other for where they are at in a similar point of each coaches career and Nicks is well and truly behind his fellow contemporary.
If this crop of young player do not continue to develop, he does not bring in genuine star players and he keeps making shocking blunders at the selection table, Nick’s career as a senior coach is going nowhere fast
Both did similar lengths of time as assistants, both hired as rookie coaches in 2019, both inheriting lists not bursting with stars and are now into their 3rd season as head coaches.
Yes I get it, the playing lists are different, we have a younger playing group and list management hasn’t done Nicks any favours.
But you compare the coaching styles against each other for where they are at in a similar point of each coaches career and Nicks is well and truly behind his fellow contemporary.
If this crop of young player do not continue to develop, he does not bring in genuine star players and he keeps making shocking blunders at the selection table, Nick’s career as a senior coach is going nowhere fast
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Freo’s list is much more advanced than and much better balanced. They have a number of quality KPP in comparison to us as well as a genuine star ruck. Add in some high pick well performing mids and small forwards with goal sense
And we all but beat them first game of the year
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I think they would.
If we hadn’t extended him last year do you reckon we’d be re-signing him right now?
Last sentence is meaningless. Form isn’t static, just because we nearly beat them round 1 doesn’t mean we’re anywhere near them.
No chance.
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