List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

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Hawthorn is strongly considering offloading Brownlow medallist Tom Mitchell to help fast-track its rebuild under Sam Mitchell next season.
The star onballer has been encouraged to consider options at rival clubs to help Hawthorn land another early draft pick.

Collingwood is yet to express strong interest but is considered the most likely new home at this stage, as the Magpies look at ways to bolster their centre clearance power.

The Magpies have been low in contested possession and clearance rates all season and could make a serious play for Mitchell if they, as expected, part ways with superstar ruckman Brodie Grundy.

Collingwood had originally set its sights on GWS Giants’ star Tim Taranto, who is leaning towards joining Richmond, forcing the Pies to consider other options.

Mitchell, 29, is on a significant salary worth more than $700,000 for the final year of his contract next season at Waverley, meaning the Hawks would have to pay some of his wage at his new club.


It means the Magpies could nab Mitchell at a discount rate only two years after forcing out midfielder Adam Treloar to clear a big chunk of his $900,000 a year wage.

The Hawks would likely demand a top-30 pick for Mitchell, but whether they accept a first or second-round selection could yet depend on how much salary they are also prepared to chip in.

Mitchell remains one of the AFL’s top ballwinners, averaging 28 disposals a game in 2022.

But his role inside the Hawthorn centre square would almost certainly be diminished next season.

Sam Mitchell wants to blood more young talent through the middle next year including Josh Ward, while netting another first or second round draft pick to the Hawks’ haul.

Sources said the deal looms as a win-win for both parties as a move to Collingwood could put Mitchell back at a club in premiership contention after starting his career at Sydney Swans. But Grundy may have to seal a trade to Melbourne or Geelong first to give the Pies the cap space to accommodate Mitchell along with Dan McStay and Bobby Hill.

News Corp understands Mitchell’s management and the Hawks are taking a mature approach to his future in the lead-up to what is shaping up as a bumper exchange period.

Mitchell has previously expressed a strong desire to remain at Hawthorn, however the club has been open about its desire to head in another direction in the back end of the season.
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I wouldn't give them a 1st. Future 2nd?
 

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Brodie Grundy for Tom Mitchell?
 
cityslick1 said:
But we’re getting smashed in the ruck / centre clearances even with Grundy. So people also need to remember that if he leaves….
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Look at the stats with and without Grundy. The reason we are getting smashed in clearances is because he’s our leader in that stat. We need more inside mids more than getting rid of an AA ruckman.
 
KinderSmock said:
That is some serious gold. BF list managers make Dodoro look talented.
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I mean obviously a troll in some form, 400k p.a. contribution from his destination club would mean we would probably value Grundy a top 5 and top 10 pick minimum to even consider Would be what, 2.75m paid by us over 5 years while Melbourne would pay 2m for him over 5 (or renegotiate his contract length?)

I mean we'd actually end up in a negative cap position vs. now if we are getting McStay at the 600k or whatever is being floated around.

Don't get me wrong if we do offload Grundy I'm certain teams with cap room will want to renegotiate the year-by-year of his contract, not sure if old mate implied redoing grundys contract to be spread over three years, but that would mean they would need to enter a new contract with him should he have more than 3 years left.... They would clearly keep it at 5 years.

End of first for Henry, Maynard is about as immovable as Derek Kickett in his E.J. Whitten games.

He clearly must of headed up to Buller during the Melbourne slump and had one too many yellow snowcones.
 
Couch Coach said:
"We need to get Grundy in on no more than $400k for 5 years which is really $700k for 3. I’d also look Luke Jackson straight in the eye and tell him that he either signs a 2 year deal with us or he can go to West Coast for pick 2, Fremantle is out of the question.

I’d trade Salem, Hunt, Bowey and Weideman to Collingwood for Maynard, Henry, Grundy and their first rounder coming back.

We should also trade Petty to Port for Georgiades, I’m deeply concerned that crying on the field doesn’t align with the Demon Spirit. We should be able to get Breust and Gunston in as free agents by trading out the likes of Jordon, Tomlinson, Sparrow, Spargo, Harmes and Melksham to create cap space.

This should alleviate our form slump.

2023 Best 22
B: Maynard - May - Turner
HB: Brayshaw - Lever - Rivers
C: Langdon - Oliver - Viney
HF: Breust - T McDonald - Fritsch
F: Georgiades - Henry - Gunston
R: Gawn - Grundy - Jackson/Pick 2
I: B Brown - Weideman - Baker - Collingwood’s first rounder
Sub: Petracca"

I'm not sure which part is the funniest of this post:
1/. Grundy for $400K meaning we pay $500K-$600K pa
2/. Jackson staying
3/. Picking on Petty
4/. Us trading Maynard
5/. Our 3 players being worth less than their 4 so we have to give a 1st rounder too
6/. Ruck line of Gawn, Grundy and Jackson
7/. Weideman on the bench after his is traded to us?
8/. Henry at FF
9/. Petracca the sub
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The most deluded post of all time, surely trolling?
 

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Pragmatic Shill said:
He's a 29 year old midfielder, so based on past history with trading for 29 year old midfielders, two first round picks.
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Hold on...

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S - P - E - W - W - W - W!!!!!

(sound of spitting, followed by approaching footsteps)

Okay, what were we talking about again?
 
Here’s a wild idea let’s ask Grundy if he’d volunteer to re negotiate his contract at a lower level. Yes it’s probably a stupid idea but I hope someone at the club has at least asked the question before we lose him. “So how about we pay you your original contract for 4 years of the contract and then we negotiate a lower number?” Why not, you just never know.
 
Apex36 said:
Once again you’re working on the assumption that Cox will be more than depth next year. It’s unlikely that we play him, Cameron, McStay, Checkers and AJ in the same team. From those players Cox is the likely out, so you’d be basing it solely on replacing Cameron down the road, and it’s unlikely that a player in the cusp moving for more opportunity will want to wait that long to replace the incumbent ruck.
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Yes you are correct.
I am absolutely making the assumption Cox is more than depth next year and so we need another Ruckman.
As contenders, the pinch hitting model leaves us very exposed if we lose either Cox or Cameron.
Time will tell.
 
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