Coach Who should be our next coach?

[Lore]

Spoiler: Timeline and reported candidates

15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten

Ben Rutten

Age

41

Ht

190cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.4

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.0

3star

sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney

Josh Mahoney

Age

47

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

(GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon

Dean Solomon

Age

45

Ht

189cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.5

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

2.8

5star

, Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

, Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa

Daniel Giansiracusa

Age

42

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella

Blake Caracella

Age

47

Ht

186cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.6

3star

will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9

 

[MiguelM]

Be careful answering some of those questions in the club survey. Answers and responses can be interpreted and twisted to suit agendas.

Any question that is confusing and vague to read should be given a score right in the middle.

Is it one of those stupid surveys that ask the same question 5 times with in a slightly different way?

We get them at work and I deliberately answer different cos they are treating you like a fool. Stuffs up their metrics.

 

[westking]

Mine will be crystal clear, believe me!

I’m filling in four. I’m crystal clear too. (Question regarding on field
Performance the club knows exactly what the responses will be-do not get sucked in with these questions. It’s a venting exercise they expect).
It’s the other more subtle questions that’s more important to them (that
Includes the sponsorship ones) Money is king regarding these questionnaires. This club fears losing money more then anything.

Money brings power and influence no matter where we finish on the ladder.

Imagine if 100% of ppl responded they will never buy a Fujitsu simply because of the incompetence of the on field performance.

Sorry for the thread drift. I just really hate this corporate bullshit. The Essendon football club is up there with some of the worst.

 

[Squeaky]

I’m filling in four. I’m crystal clear too. (Question regarding on field
Performance the club knows exactly what the responses will be-do not get sucked in with these questions. It’s a venting exercise they expect).
It’s the other more subtle questions that’s more important to them (that
Includes the sponsorship ones) Money is king regarding these questionnaires. This club fears losing money more then anything.

Money brings power and influence no matter where we finish on the ladder.

Imagine if 100% of ppl responded they will never buy a Fujitsu simply because of the incompetence of the on field performance.

Sorry for the thread drift. I just really hate this corporate bullshit. The Essendon football club is up there with some of the worst.

Good call!

 

[ant555]

So we are using this to decide ?

 

[ant555]

I hear this bloke has done an interview.

 

[dank420_]

So we are using this to decide ?
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I told you all. Jock McHale’s corpse.

 

[The Prosecutor]

So we are using this to decide ?
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[yodellinhank]

reading between the lines, I reckon Scott will get cold feet. He is leaving it late to apply.

Wouldn't read much into what Caro says, her hatred of Hird ridiculous.

HQ want Hird. Announced in the Spring Racing Carnival lead up to put footy back on the back page.

Caro backing Scott as the person to hold up as the experienced option we overlooked so she can pour her hate.

She’s been on this bandwagon since before Hird was really a thing

Hird has never not been a thing. It's in Revelations people!

 

[Lore]

Hird has never not been a thing. It's in Revelations people!

If it’s the bible we’re leaning on then the Patience of Jobe is just as relevant

 

[Westlo]

**** me, even people who hate us are trolling us by propping Hird up.

Was glad that Walls was on the panel because he and sheedy hate each other but he might pull a smart one and get Hird up.

 

[Schnitzengruben]

The whole "aura" aspect is true and found in very few people. But it largely encompasses Hird's biggest strength - developing and cultivating personal relationships, which is severely underrated by a lot of people. You can't quantify that on a resume and really it's what makes or breaks most coaches, in the long run. I still maintain that the man-manager skills of Hird with a panel of gun technical assistants would be a great combination, better than a team of solely the latter.

One of the biggest failings of our recent 2 coaches was the inability to get buy in from the team, and another greenhorn in Yze faces the same dilemma. I have much more faith in a guy like Hird to get buy in from the group, much like he did during his last tenure. He had a pretty crap team running through walls for him. Pyke commanded a similar level of respect, albeit a far more talented team.

 

[MiguelM]

The whole "aura" aspect is true and found in very few people. But it largely encompasses Hird's biggest strength - developing and cultivating personal relationships, which is severely underrated by a lot of people. You can't quantify that on a resume and really it's what makes or breaks most coaches, in the long run. I still maintain that the man-manager skills of Hird with a panel of gun technical assistants would be a great combination, better than a team of solely the latter.

One of the biggest failings of our recent 2 coaches was the inability to get buy in from the team, and another greenhorn in Yze faces the same dilemma. I have much more faith in a guy like Hird to get buy in from the group, much like he did during his last tenure. He had a pretty crap team running through walls for him. Pyke commanded a similar level of respect, albeit a far more talented team.

Pyke has said no I think?

If it ends up between Hird & Yze, I think Hird gets it. Not sure Scott will give up his cushy AFL role this early.

Don't think Lade will get close.

 

[Schnitzengruben]

Pyke has said no I think?

If it ends up between Hird & Yze, I think Hird gets it. Not sure Scott will give up his cushy AFL role this early.

Don't think Lade will get close.

Just going from the clip from today - he seemed very respectful towards the Swans and their finals tilt. Ultimately he could've completely ruled himself out but certainly didn't.

 

[Beerfish]

I hear this bloke has done an interview.

Would take him in a heartbeat.

 

[Kong]

The coteries would have him removed within two years.

 

[CBombers17]

Not sure if this question has been posed on here already but is there any chance the experienced coaches are staying away from the role out of courtesy for Hird? A bit like dating your mates Ex?

There might be a bit of a consensus among the coaching fraternity that he was hard done by and if Essendon want him in any way (and Senior coaching experience) to keep out of it - or hang back until genuinely engaged by the club.

 

[dank420_]

Lol

 

[CBombers17]

Lol

This should be a job to go for with seemingly very few contenders, list has promise, and would be at least 3 years at good money on the table at a club where if yoi got it right the upside would be enormous- and yet so far we only have less experienced candidates who would benefit from going through the process either way (and not getting the role wouldn't reflect badly on them - so reputational risk free) and Hird.

How would you explain the absence of senior coaching candidates coming forward?

 

[madrigal]

How would you explain the absence of senior coaching candidates coming forward?

Scapegoating and knifing in the back the previous coach.

 

[dank420_]

This should be a job to go for with seemingly very few contenders, list has promise, and would be at least 3 years at good money on the table at a club where if yoi got it right the upside would be enormous- and yet so far we only have less experienced candidates who would benefit from going through the process either way (and not getting the role wouldn't reflect badly on them - so reputational risk free) and Hird.

How would you explain the absence of senior coaching candidates coming forward?

I just don’t think we know everything about who’s actually in the running. And the obvious ones named all have stable lives/jobs. Could be a matter of bad timing. And then it could come down to personal reasons for each candidate.

I doubt they are all thinking about Hird.

 

[CBombers17]

I just don’t think we know everything about who’s actually in the running. And the obvious ones named all have stable lives/jobs. Could be a matter of bad timing. And then it could come down to personal reasons for each candidate.

I doubt they are all thinking about Hird.

All fair enough points. It will be interesting to see if Scott comes out and says he wants the job now it seems the AFL is fine for him to go for it - or if there has in been other interest we don't know about.

If none of these guys have a crack there will be some reasons beyond bad personal timing IMO - and it wouldn't surprise if CW let's us know all about it after the fact.

For whatever reason I wouldn't discount Hirds name being in the ring overall as a big red flag to potential candidates.

 

[dank420_]

All fair enough points. It will be interesting to see if Scott comes out and says he wants the job now it seems the AFL is fine for him to go for it - or if there has in been other interest we don't know about.

If none of these guys have a crack there will be some reasons beyond bad personal timing IMO - and it wouldn't surprise if CW let's us know all about it after the fact.

For whatever reason I wouldn't discount Hirds name being in the ring overall as a big red flag to potential candidates.

I didn’t pay much attention to the GWS signing apart from knowing Yze was in the running, and then the other guy getting it. We’re they fairly open about it? I legitimately have no idea. I suppose us being essendon, the entire footy world is more inquisitive.

 

[ant555]

This should be a job to go for with seemingly very few contenders, list has promise, and would be at least 3 years at good money on the table at a club where if yoi got it right the upside would be enormous- and yet so far we only have less experienced candidates who would benefit from going through the process either way (and not getting the role wouldn't reflect badly on them - so reputational risk free) and Hird.

How would you explain the absence of senior coaching candidates coming forward?

They do not want to coach.
Lyon has a decent media and business profile that makes decent coin. Like last year did not want to do the interviews.
Cameron just out of coaching and not looking to move back from Sydney for family reasons.
Pyke, Sydney still playing finals. Has not yet said yes or no.
Scott. Not likely to be interviewed until the next round of presentations.
Hinkley. Still has a job.
Williams. Not interested.
I think there is a lot of speculation. The coaches that will have to go through the whole process have done interviews. There where not a lot of experienced candidates. The club has not announced exactly who will be interviewed and when so it has all been media asking questions and running with what they know.

 

[ghostdog]

Not sure if this question has been posed on here already but is there any chance the experienced coaches are staying away from the role out of courtesy for Hird? A bit like dating your mates Ex?

There might be a bit of a consensus among the coaching fraternity that he was hard done by and if Essendon want him in any way (and Senior coaching experience) to keep out of it - or hang back until genuinely engaged by the club.

????
I'd say they have more sense than to work in a dysfunctional organisation for whose failings they'd likely be the scapegoat. There will be other jobs next year.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Not sure if this question has been posed on here already but is there any chance the experienced coaches are staying away from the role out of courtesy for Hird? A bit like dating your mates Ex?

There might be a bit of a consensus among the coaching fraternity that he was hard done by and if Essendon want him in any way (and Senior coaching experience) to keep out of it - or hang back until genuinely engaged by the club.

Doubt it TBH.