News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

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Wrong. Hawks did what they had to do by the rules of the AFL.
Correct. For reference below, once the HFC had the report outlining serious allegations they were duty bound by the AFL’s protocol to hand over the report to the AFL integrity unit.

I will pin this post, as it seems to be a constant query.

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His political experience most certainly on display
I would have preferred the letter started here

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But with Jeff acknowledging why they decided to start this process.

The here's a list of Indigenous players was not relevant to the issue, and he's written the letter like Cyril and Shannyn's revelations were no the catalyst for this action.

But I think everything after this paragraph was pretty good and if you look at the letter in the context of the real meat no the usual fluff at the start it's probably the best thing Jeff has put out in years
 
For a club that is usually media savvy and prides itself on; 'talk to the media about our narratives, not theirs' our 'internal review' being played out in the public domain is somewhat mystifying..!
Notwithstanding R.Jacksons ABC article, in hindsight why didn't the club enagage a law firm who then outsourced the report to Phil Egan with 'In-confidence, not for public dissemination' at the top of every page, ensuring the report is subject to legal professional privilege?

Accordingly I suspect our 'anonymous' former indigenous players/families mentioned in the report will likely recieve restitution, but not specifically related to their allegations, more for how our club poorly planned and conducted a commissioned report that has now been released to the public..!

Despite HFC's good intentions this has now evolved into a convoluted situation from a legal perspective creating a challenging environment for natural justice to accurately ascertain the related allegations.
For one thing Egan offered/promised all players interviewed anomality for their 'truth telling', however due mainly to the related media reports they are now being told that to undertake productive mediation this is no longer possible...

I've also no doubt other clubs considering the same exercise will learn from our mistakes to avoid this trial by media schmozzle...!!!
Who do you think is leaking this material to the media? And who spoke to Jackson?
 
Who do you think is leaking this material to the media? And who spoke to Jackson?

Jackson specialises in writing about child abuse perpetrators and racism in sport. Once the report was a known thing earlier in the year - a reporter of his calibre wouldn't have had to do much work to find out which players would have spoken to Egan and would have the contacts to get in their ear.
 

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Who do you think is leaking this material to the media? And who spoke to Jackson?
It is pretty simple. Players make statements to Egan. Egan returns final statements to players for sign off (therefore players have a copy). Jackson contacts 20 players interviewed - some respond, some don't. Three players respond to Jackson with the published accusations and issue their part of the report. We do not actually know if Jackson has the whole report.

My guess is that everything has been leaked by the three players. They have not leaked the whole report but they have leaked their statements.
 
It is pretty simple. Players make statements to Egan. Egan returns final statements to players for sign off (therefore players have a copy). Jackson contacts 20 players interviewed - some respond, some don't. Three players respond to Jackson with the published accusations and issue their part of the report. We do not actually know if Jackson has the whole report.

My guess is that everything has been leaked by the three players. They have not leaked the whole report but they have leaked their statements.
That is my reading too. Which is why I struggle to understand the point of view of deanc, who seems to be blaming the club for the leaks.
 
That is my reading too. Which is why I struggle to understand the point of view of deanc, who seems to be blaming the club for the leaks.
The Herald Sun has recently obtained and published HFC's/Egan's full report of our 'internal review' - who provided the media this..? It's unlikely the source was Jackson/ABC, so that leaves the AFL or the HFC...
 
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The Herald Sun has recently obtained and published HFC's/Egan's full report of our 'internal review' - who provided the media this..? It's unlikely the source was Jackson/ABC, so that leaves the AFL or the HFC...

Egan?
 
If he's the best man for the job to do that, then so be it.
He's not the best man for the job and you know it. He's divisive and many folks have a loathing for him because of his past actions. I'm happy to admit I'm one of them because of the destruction he wrought on the public health system, staff and patients. Damage, in terms of beds closed we have yet to make up. Sorry, I digress. If it wasn't for boof heads very public upsetting of the Rioli family this destructive review would never happened.
 
Unlikely, while not knowing the terms of Mr. Egan's engagement to undertake the review, I'd be surprised if this didn't include a related NDA - although with Nick Holland our General Manager of Legal, Risk & Integrity, who knows...?

His law qualifications and extensive experience in sports governance roles lead you to think he’s an idiot?
 
It is pretty simple. Players make statements to Egan. Egan returns final statements to players for sign off (therefore players have a copy). Jackson contacts 20 players interviewed - some respond, some don't. Three players respond to Jackson with the published accusations and issue their part of the report. We do not actually know if Jackson has the whole report.

My guess is that everything has been leaked by the three players. They have not leaked the whole report but they have leaked their statements.
I would think that one of the wives has led to this becoming public.
 
The Herald Sun has recently obtained and published HFC's/Egan's full report of our 'internal review' - who provided the media this..? It's unlikely the source was Jackson/ABC, so that leaves the AFL or the HFC...
Hard to say without knowing who received a copy. We don’t know if the full version was provided to the families or just their own sections. But both the afl and the hfc would prefer the report to be private so it makes little sense to assume it was the club at fault, which you seem to have done in your post.
 

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For a club that is usually media savvy and prides itself on; 'talk to the media about our narratives, not theirs' our 'internal review' being played out in the public domain is somewhat mystifying..!
Notwithstanding R.Jacksons ABC article, in hindsight why didn't the club enagage a law firm who then outsourced the report to Phil Egan with 'In-confidence, not for public dissemination' at the top of every page, ensuring the report is subject to legal professional privilege?

Accordingly I suspect our 'anonymous' former indigenous players/families mentioned in the report will likely recieve restitution, but not specifically related to their allegations, more for how our club poorly planned and conducted a commissioned report that has now been released to the public..!

Despite HFC's good intentions this has now evolved into a convoluted situation from a legal perspective creating a challenging environment for natural justice to accurately ascertain the related allegations.
For one thing Egan offered/promised all players interviewed anomality for their 'truth telling', however due mainly to the related media reports they are now being told that to undertake productive mediation this is no longer possible...

I've also no doubt other clubs considering the same exercise will learn from our mistakes to avoid this trial by media schmozzle...!!!
I’ve thought about this and if you read into Clarkson using Caroline Wilson as his mouth piece in contract negotiations last year you can end up in some pretty weird assumptions.
 

This bit could go on a sign...

"While Russell Jackson’s story reports on the existence of the external review commissioned by Hawthorn, and some allegations made within it, his story was not based on that review and does not quote its contents. His reporting was based entirely on original interviews conducted with primary sources after he was alerted to this difficult and important story."
 
This bit could go on a sign...

"While Russell Jackson’s story reports on the existence of the external review commissioned by Hawthorn, and some allegations made within it, his story was not based on that review and does not quote its contents. His reporting was based entirely on original interviews conducted with primary sources after he was alerted to this difficult and important story."

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This bit could go on a sign...

"While Russell Jackson’s story reports on the existence of the external review commissioned by Hawthorn, and some allegations made within it, his story was not based on that review and does not quote its contents. His reporting was based entirely on original interviews conducted with primary sources after he was alerted to this difficult and important story."
hope you don't mind, Ned Ryerson but I had to reply to one particular numpty - inspired by your reply above in here:
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The Herald Sun has recently obtained and published HFC's/Egan's full report of our 'internal review' - who provided the media this..? It's unlikely the source was Jackson/ABC, so that leaves the AFL or the HFC...

I'd be 99% confident it was someone at the AFL who provided a copy to the media.
 

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