Rumour 2022 Rumour Discussion Thread

[Scorpus]

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[Mostyn]

I'm not seeing it

Will interstaters really flock to Adelaide to see teams they can see in their own cities nearly every week?

It did very well in Brisbane.

 

[Mostyn]

Was on the Vader side of the Fog debate too

I thought it was fine to say there were some issues around Fog's development.

It's a dick move to have made it some kind of character assassination.

 

[Mostyn]

Most will be at Adelaide Oval, Thursday night, Friday night, double header Saturday and Sunday, could possibly do one Monday night too. So 6 or 7 games at AO with a couple in either regional or SANFL ovals.

There was talk about one in the Barossa somewhere, maybe they could do a game in Clare?

They'll try to align them with tourism attractors, so the Barossa would make sense.

 

[FR0GGY]

I thought it was fine to say there were some issues around Fog's development.

It's a dick move to have made it some kind of character assassination.

To me you could always see fog had the talent and his flaws were fixable.
Someone like Chayce to me, doesn’t show he can football to the level needed, which to me is not fixable.

 

[Big Dub]

To me you could always see fog had the talent and his flaws were fixable.
Someone like Chayce to me, doesn’t show he can football to the level needed, which to me is not fixable.

Chayce in his first year or so looked really promising, then it all seemed to go to hell.

I'm hoping it is a Fogarty type thing where he lost his confidence/ started playing not to his strengths. Chayce is fast, hard and used to be able to find the ball and hit targets. I still think that there is something there, but needs a Fog style intervention to find it again.

 

[FR0GGY]

Chayce in his first year or so looked really promising, then it all seemed to go to hell.

I'm hoping it is a Fogarty type thing where he lost his confidence/ started playing not to his strengths. Chayce is fast, hard and used to be able to find the ball and hit targets. I still think that there is something there, but needs a Fog style intervention to find it again.

I don’t see that with Chayce, he’s not that fast, he’s hard but in a footballing sense he’s “dumb” if he wasn’t a single digit pick he’d have been delisted by now.

 

[Mutineer]

I don’t see that with Chayce, he’s not that fast, he’s hard but in a footballing sense he’s “dumb” if he wasn’t a single digit pick he’d have been delisted by now.

Not that fast?
He might have his flaws but speed is not one of them, he's plenty fast.

 

[FR0GGY]

Not that fast?
He might have his flaws but speed is not one of them, he's plenty fast.

Ok, he doesn’t do much with the speed he possesses.

 

[DJ75]

Ok, he doesn’t do much with the speed he possesses.

You obviously don't watch his defensive efforts

 

[WaynesWorld19]

You obviously don't watch his defensive efforts

Chayce Jones is close to breaking out ......22 YO & 58 games

Yes, he's made some mistakes ....again, it's hard for some young kids in a struggling side .....but he's also highly competitive, as Mutineer said, plenty of speed .....looked better on a wing than HBF ....and as the side improves, Jones will perform better & better

Signed
President - David Mackay Appreciation Society

 

[FR0GGY]

You obviously don't watch his defensive efforts

Is that where he ranks below average in tackles and one percenters?

 

[jenny61_99]

I can’t see one negative to magic round.

Only problem I can see is if it's wet. Magic round in NRL was up here in the middle of a big rain event. ALL games were played at Suncorp stadium. This was one of the headlines:

"Magic Round just became aquatic round: Why you should never play eight NRL games at the same venue"​

 

[DJ75]

Is that where he ranks below average in tackles and one percenters?

So your answer is yes then.

 

[FR0GGY]

So your answer is yes then.

I’ve watch him plenty and he sucks, there no getting around it.

 

[FR0GGY]

Only problem I can see is if it's wet. Magic round in NRL was up here in the middle of a big rain event. ALL games were played at Suncorp stadium. This was one of the headlines:

"Magic Round just became aquatic round: Why you should never play eight NRL games at the same venue"​

But it’s an extra round so anything is a bonus really.

 

[jenny61_99]

But it’s an extra round so anything is a bonus really.

All I can think of is you'd want to be one of the first games... injury potential on a chopped up mud pit....

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

The AFL have told clubs they will each receive a $500,000 windfall from 2023 Magic Round.

And who's paying for it?

 

[Mostyn]

To me you could always see fog had the talent and his flaws were fixable.
Someone like Chayce to me, doesn’t show he can football to the level needed, which to me is not fixable.

I don't think that at all about Chayce. he clearly has no issues around taking physical contact and his skills seem very good technically.

His game instincts seem a bit wonky, but I probably forgive that because I assume everyone under 22 is just a complete idiot, so hopefully he grows out of it.

 

[Mostyn]

I’ve watch him plenty and he sucks, there no getting around it.

What do you think sucks?

He's fast, he's got good skills and he has plenty of endeavor.

He's also had issues around confidence and struggling to find his natural game at the top level. He's looked like he hasn't belonged.

I think not getting the best out of Jones would be a coaching and leadership issue, if he ends up not making it. He has the raw tools.

 

[dogs105]

Looking forward to seeing what Chayce does this year

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Looking forward to seeing what Chayce does this year

I have more confidence in Chayce, than Ned .....that's not to say Ned can't be a permanent team member ....but he's walking a tight rope ATM

 

[FR0GGY]

I don't think that at all about Chayce. he clearly has no issues around taking physical contact and his skills seem very good technically.

His game instincts seem a bit wonky, but I probably forgive that because I assume everyone under 22 is just a complete idiot, so hopefully he grows out of it.

Imo you can see if someone has good instincts.
To me he doesn’t look like he does at all.
I don’t think he’s got great skills either.
Just have a look at the afl site and his stats are basically all below average or average.

 

[Big Dub]

Imo you can see if someone has good instincts.
To me he doesn’t look like he does at all.
I don’t think he’s got great skills either.
Just have a look at the afl site and his stats are basically all below average or average.
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Apart from kicking efficiency, which looks like a contested player's efficiency, that just looks like someone who is not getting enough of the ball.

Which is the point. He would be a much better player if he hunted the ball a bit more, but that seemed to be coached out of him in 2020ish.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

And who's paying for it?

So overall lower crowds than otherwise for a round.

Less membership games.

Who is picking up the tab to make it worthwhile...

State Government.

 

[FR0GGY]

Apart from kicking efficiency, which looks like a contested player's efficiency, that just looks like someone who is not getting enough of the ball.

Which is the point. He would be a much better player if he hunted the ball a bit more, but that seemed to be coached out of him in 2020ish.

He’s been given every chance over the years to get the ball, being played in the middle and across half back.