Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

I've deleted confirmed information

Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[croweater 41]

Crikey

So who gives 63/68 to Carlton?

WCE currently have 63 and 68.

 

[Jarman3]

If Port's board intervened to block the Houston, Atkins et al trade, surely West Coast's board intervenes to block this one, and maybe has Pyke committed to a mental institution while they're at it.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

The way he handled the Simpson exit makes you wonder

....and Douglas before that. He's so bad at that sort of stuff.

 

[Hodgy]

Wce officially getting rogered

Personally I’d take 12, Baker and Owies over FOS every day if the week.

 

[119others]

I reckon the issue might be the combined salary of Luko and Ratkins. Board also need to approve such a high salary value trade.

Would be over $1m a year for the two.




Atkins over $400k

Adelaide gets compo pick as Crow flies north on lengthy deal

Former Adelaide winger has officially joined Gold Coast as a free agent

www.afl.com.au

1.6m for both it was reported y/day (previously I had thought Luko 1m and Rat 400k)

 

[Scorpus]

If Pyke somehow puts the Eagles in an even worse position, that's going to make me reassess the weighting of blame in the whole Pyke/Birdbrain saga.

The trade itself isn't the only issue.

The issue is: are the people at West Coast making these decisions competent? And what other decisions will they stuff up?

It's one of those signpost moments where the negative implications are far greater than just one single decision

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

This is going to be a mess

Yep

The last time their board intervened was when Choco wanted to make Shaun Burgoyne captain from memory

The board vetoed it, chose Dom.

Shaun went on to win three premierships and Port Powers ended up on the path to Primus

 

[George Kramer]

The backend picks (not worth much) are even more in favor of Carlton

Doing them a favour to get Campo boys.

The other clubs are idiots for not wanting to change the father son discounts this year. Looks like Carlton aren’t going to be benefit, the only club that will is the reigning premier

 

[FR0GGY]

1.6m for both it was reported y/day (previously I had thought Luko 1m and Rat 400k)

That was for full contract life wasn’t it? Rat 1 year Luko 2

 

[George Kramer]

So what else are Richmond going to give North for their future first?

 

[Betts are off]

I find it unbelievable that other teams don't come in a undercut this terrible deal now they know how desperate West Coast are.

MFC have a better hand, as do Richmond and St Kilda.

 

[119others]

That was for full contract life wasn’t it? Rat 1 year Luko 2

not 100% sure but cant imagine its for the contract life as Luko alone is at least 800-900k per year for the next 2 years. and Rat 400k owed in 2025

not sure if i misunderstood your post here mate but all academic probably anyway.

just hope:

• Power dont effectively coerce Houston to Kangas for F1 (which they then upgrade to 2024 and 2025 first rounders which I can see happening if they secured Kangas F1)
• Suns do need to dump salary and may allow Port to take Luko (and possibly Rat) for a F2 ONLY

 

[Hodgy]

I find it unbelievable that other teams don't come in a undercut this terrible deal now they know how desperate West Coast are.

MFC have a better hand, as do Richmond and St Kilda.

This is a very even draft. Melbourne gave a F1 to get that second pick, so like WC they prefer 2 picks to 1 top 3 pick. Saints obviously the same.

If WC get someone like Travaglia at 12, who I rate higher than FOS anyway, and add Baker and Owies, this could be a really good strategy.

 

[JPetro83]

I can see it this happening: Carlton trading pick 3 to Port for Houston. Port then using pick 3 to pick Draper. Port always seem to find a way to get in front of the Crows in the draft.. just like when they picked Rozzee

 

[George Kramer]

I can see it this happening: Carlton trading pick 3 to Port for Houston. Port then using pick 3 to pick Draper. Port always seem to find a way to get in front of the Crows in the draft.. just like when they picked Rozzee

Nah, they could have just given them 12 & 14

 

[Shifty Crow]

I can see it this happening: Carlton trading pick 3 to Port for Houston. Port then using pick 3 to pick Draper. Port always seem to find a way to get in front of the Crows in the draft.. just like when they picked Rozzee

Absolutely zero chance this happening

They have pulled the pin on Houston and will get Finn O’Sullivan in the draft who is a relative of Sam Walsh

Blues were steadfast at not handing pick 12 for Houston - no way they give up pick 3 for him.

Zero chance


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[119others]

So what else are Richmond going to give North for their future first?

Ralphy, typical biased Tiges supporter crap. How in the hell does pick 10 get a VERY LIKELY top 3 draft pick in 2025 to any unbiased judge

Isnt he also saying Rioli is worth 6 AND 23 - or is that some other biased Vic journo numbnut

 

[Amacca 23]

Nah, they could have just given them 12 & 14

Only port supporters see this happening ????? Hmmmm

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[Crow till I die]

Crikey

So who gives 63/68 to Carlton?

Surely...SURELY WCE would be demanding Richmond's pick 20 also coming to them in that deal.

Getting Baker, Owies, 12, 20 & 73 is starting to get back to parity for them. I still maintain they should try trading 14 for Sydney's 19 & 22 and then flick 19 for Baker and keep 22 to go to the draft.

 

[Vader]

I reckon the issue might be the combined salary of Luko and Ratkins. Board also need to approve such a high salary value trade.

Would be over $1m a year for the two.




Atkins over $400k

Adelaide gets compo pick as Crow flies north on lengthy deal

Former Adelaide winger has officially joined Gold Coast as a free agent

www.afl.com.au

They probably can't afford the Luko & Rat salaries, now that Soldo isn't going anywhere.

 

[Amacca 23]

Surely...SURELY WCE would be demanding Richmond's pick 20 also coming to them in that deal.

Getting Baker, Owies, 12, 20 & 73 is starting to get back to parity for them. I still maintain they should try trading 14 for Sydney's 19 & 22 and then flick 19 for Baker and keep 22 to go to the draft.

This deal is gc like in stupidity from the eagles

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[crow2crow]

I can see it this happening: Carlton trading pick 3 to Port for Houston. Port then using pick 3 to pick Draper. Port always seem to find a way to get in front of the Crows in the draft.. just like when they picked Rozzee

they didnt need 3 for houston

its for fin osullivan ffs. read the actual media reports.

 

[FR0GGY]

not 100% sure but cant imagine its for the contract life as Luko alone is at least 800-900k per year for the next 2 years. and Rat 400k owed in 2025

not sure if i misunderstood your post here mate but all academic probably anyway.

just hope:

• Power dont effectively coerce Houston to Kangas for F1 (which they then upgrade to 2024 and 2025 first rounders which I can see happening if they secured Kangas F1)
• Suns do need to dump salary and may allow Port to take Luko (and possibly Rat) for a F2 ONLY

I thought I saw the figure somewhere of 2.2 so 900k for each of Luko plus 400k for Rat

 

[FR0GGY]

I can see it this happening: Carlton trading pick 3 to Port for Houston. Port then using pick 3 to pick Draper. Port always seem to find a way to get in front of the Crows in the draft.. just like when they picked Rozzee

When Carlton wouldn’t trade 12 for Houston they definitely aren’t giving up 3 for him

 

[Hodgy]

they didnt need 3 for houston

its for fin osullivan ffs. read the actual media reports.

To be fair the media hasn’t got much correct to date.