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Hardwick is resigning. My guess right now is he won't be getting paid out for the remainder of his contract (unless Richmond offer too)

Clarkson was sacked and demanded payment for the remainder of his contract
 
Dawson absolutely could be - he has only just moved in there and has been a revelation. Rachele could also be.
Edit - Pedlar ... could be that real tiger in the middle for stints and end up being a tough, high energy clearance specialist
I thought same re Dawson, also Pedlar --- both are skillful, tough nuts --- but not Rachele unless he's prepared to work harder for the team and not his personal goal tally.
Still, Rachele is only 20 with plenty of improvement to come, but I'd want to see him and Rankine on opposite HF flanks.
Yes, my apologies definitely agree here. We do need to bat deeper than just Dawson, we really need 3 to 4 players running through there that are elite or very close to that.
Agree, but will be very hard to find because they are rare and in demand by every Club.
Butters (playing like a Nick Daicos), Rozee and JHF led the way for PA over Melb., and could dominate for another 8 years or so.
They were ferocious in waves of thick rain, worse conditions than our meek lot faced in Ballarat.
You're right. We need at least two more (like them) to round out the midfield with Dawson and Pedlar. Hypothetical: Hinge to become a mid?

P.S. I've been half-hoping since Keays' very good year in 2021 that he'd make a mid, but no R foot kick limits his usefulness. He strikes me as someone who wants to improve and do a team job for the Crows but Ben, mate, work on the R peg ffs.
 
You would suggest Hawrdwick won't be allowed to coach next year at a rival club.

Contracted till the end of 2025.


Richmond held Neil Balme to his contract, unable to come here. Ok "health reasons", right.


Didnt Hawthorn do the same with Clarko?


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If Hardwick quits, he has terminated the contract and doesn't get paid. If the club holds him to the contract, they have to pay him. That's big $$$ down the drain to hold a coach who doesn't want to be there, for 2.5 more years. Surely it's better from the club's point of view to begin the process of finding a new coach now.

Hardwick's presser today (I assume) will be interesting. I expect it will be something along the lines of I'm burning out, I need a break, the players need a fresh voice, it's in the best interests of the club that I move on now and give them a head start in finding their next coach.

- The cynical view is that he can't be stuffed with a rebuild, but who could blame him after building once and then 3 flags? Or maybe it's a more genuine "I've done this once, I don't know that I have it in me to do it again - not at this club. anyway".

Of course the questions will be about whether he's going to coach next year, he could either give a definitive "no" or hedge his bets. Personally I expect he'll hedge, after all, why would you publicly cut off an option this far out? He probably doesn't know how he's going to feel about it by the end of the year.
 

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I thought something was up with Hardwick when I noticed him constantly standing in the coaches box. What was the deal with that? At first I thought he might just have tweaked his back but then it appeared to be permanent.
 
Interesting optics of the Carlton board salivating and frothing at the mouth at the opportunity to get Hardwick.

Interesting times ahead for Voss.

Just one win in the past 6 weeks and that was vs the Eagles.
Voss --- great player --- was not the Coach for Brisbane and is not the man to get the best out of Carlton. Great players do not always make great coaches.
 
If Hardwick quits, he has terminated the contract and doesn't get paid. If the club holds him to the contract, they have to pay him. That's big $$$ down the drain to hold a coach who doesn't want to be there, for 2.5 more years. Surely it's better from the club's point of view to begin the process of finding a new coach now.

Hardwick's presser today (I assume) will be interesting. I expect it will be something along the lines of I'm burning out, I need a break, the players need a fresh voice, it's in the best interests of the club that I move on now and give them a head start in finding their next coach.

- The cynical view is that he can't be stuffed with a rebuild, but who could blame him after building once and then 3 flags? Or maybe it's a more genuine "I've done this once, I don't know that I have it in me to do it again - not at this club. anyway".

Of course the questions will be about whether he's going to coach next year, he could either give a definitive "no" or hedge his bets. Personally I expect he'll hedge, after all, why would you publicly cut off an option this far out? He probably doesn't know how he's going to feel about it by the end of the year.
I thought after Freo poached Lyon from Saint Kilda the AFLCA agreed to non compete type clauses for the contracted term.

I guess you could be right. Contracted merely terminated.



Agree, he probably doesn't want to rebuild again.

13 years in the job. It is a long time. Having to start again to win a Premiership would be unappealing for many.



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Of course the questions will be about whether he's going to coach next year, he could either give a definitive "no" or hedge his bets. Personally I expect he'll hedge, after all, why would you publicly cut off an option this far out? He probably doesn't know how he's going to feel about it by the end of the year.
Veteran footy journalist Caroline Wilson said on Footy Classified: “It’s thrown a hand grenade into the coaching merry-go-round.”


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How much pressure do you think Hinkley's manager is now putting on Koch to re-sign him?
8-2, everything going great and a new viable option on the horizon.

Let's hope Koch caves yet again and Ken gets signed for another 5 years.
Unless Port win the flag, I think they will go for Hardwick if they havent done so already.

How many times over Ken's coaching tenure have Port won multiple flags in May to August? Many times of course, but the story always ends the same.
 
Hinkley being poached by Richmond would be wonderful
Yeah/nah; interesting hypothetical, won't happen.
On every level PA love Hinkley, who's surfing a tsunami of wins on a longboard of a team which looks energetic and invested.
I don't know if they can sustain what they're doing now --- could they have peaked too early? --- but if they can they're serious Flag contenders. The Crows are not.
Since we beat them in Round 3 both teams have gone very differently. We're 4-3 (1-3 in our last 4) and they're 7-zip.
It's hard not to think that their loss to us fired them up :grimacing:.
 
I thought after Freo poached Lyon from Saint Kilda the AFLCA agreed to non compete type clauses for the contracted term.

I guess you could be right. Contracted merely terminated.
From what I've read, no-compete clauses can be very difficult to enforce. Especially when the person has quit and is not being paid. It can be done at the higher / executive levels more so than at the lower levels, and the higher level is surely where a coach sits; but as I said, difficult to enforce. Especially, perhaps, when "coaching an AFL club" is ruled out.
13 years in the job. It is a long time. Having to start again to win a Premiership would be unappealing for many.
Yes, it stands out when you look at that number. Possibly a career coach would be up for taking over another team, but not so much if they're starting at or near the botttom. A contender or near-contender, maybe. Depends on what Hardwick feels about "the challenge". I don't know how many coaches have gone on for more than 13 years, even at different clubs.
 
Yeah/nah; interesting hypothetical, won't happen.
On every level PA love Hinkley, who's surfing a tsunami of wins on a longboard of a team which looks energetic and invested.
I don't know if they can sustain what they're doing now --- could they have peaked too early? --- but if they can they're serious Flag contenders. The Crows are not.
Since we beat them in Round 3 both teams have gone very differently. We're 4-3 (1-3 in our last 4) and they're 7-zip.
It's hard not to think that their loss to us fired them up :grimacing:.
The only obvious change is Kenny moving from the box to the bench.

A power supporting friend of mine lamented to me, "why tf didn't he do that 10 years ago?"
 

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From what I've read, no-compete clauses can be very difficult to enforce. Especially when the person has quit and is not being paid. It can be done at the higher / executive levels more so than at the lower levels, and the higher level is surely where a coach sits; but as I said, difficult to enforce. Especially, perhaps, when "coaching an AFL club" is ruled out.

Yes, it stands out when you look at that number. Possibly a career coach would be up for taking over another team, but not so much if they're starting at or near the botttom. A contender or near-contender, maybe. Depends on what Hardwick feels about "the challenge". I don't know how many coaches have gone on for more than 13 years, even at different clubs.
If Hardwick is indeed "burned out", then rebuilding one is off the landscape for him, which definitely rules out North and Eagles.

It really leaves, Port, Carlton and maybe the Suns.

But I wouldnt rule out a smokey out of nowhere, a coach who may look safe but is turfed. Intriguing times ahead.
 
The only obvious change is Kenny moving from the box to the bench.

A power supporting friend of mine lamented to me, "why tf didn't he do that 10 years ago?"
He moved to the bench so that he could cheerlead with his players when they won.:$
 
I remember Blight talking about 1999 when the other coaches and staff began talking about the following seasons - recruitment, drafting, list changes, player contracts etc - he realised that he was done and didn't have the energy for it. It was all he could do to be up for the week to week.
 
Let us hope (pray) not. Carlton ticks more boxes IMO, maybe not as close to contending as Port, but at least he wouldn't have to move.
The next month will be telling for Carlton, not inconceivable they could lose their next three and lead to Voss being sacked.

Sydney at the SCG followed by Dees and Dons.
 
I actually think a trip away to face an out of form Swans team will be good for Carlton

A stay of execution for Voss this Friday night

Blues win

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How much pressure do you think Hinkley's manager is now putting on Koch to re-sign him?
8-2, everything going great and a new viable option on the horizon.

Let's hope Koch caves yet again and Ken gets signed for another 5 years.
This is all setting up beautifully for Hinkley.

No doubt Blucher will be going to Port and telling them that Ken has deals on the table from Gold Coast and Richmond to see if Port jump. Given how Port are traveling at the moment would Port really be willing to risk let Ken go at this point?

Hinkley and his manager Peter Blucher are masters when it comes to being able to pull at Kochie's marionette strings and getting him to dance. I honestly think we're not too far away from it happening once again.



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