Player Watch Tom Doedee - Departed for Brisbane, End of 1st Round FA Compensation

[Anzacpaul]

Did we just miss the mid-season draft too? FFS

Don't worry, we would've just wasted the pick on a mid-late 20's SANFL player only to delist him at the end of the year anyway.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Did we just miss the mid-season draft too? FFS

At least the likes of Borlase and /or Keane might get a look in in some form. Worrel in for Doed's but his body lets him down.

 

[JPetro83]

Massive silver lining here.. we get to see Worrell play!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

You've also mentioned our lack of leadership in defence, that there isn't a marshall there to organise structures and lead. Minimal presence or direction from Butts and Murray. Maybe we see Redman as being able to fill that role

Possibly .....have we seen any evidence though any leadership qualities .....it's hard to tell, as it was with Dawson

Defensive leadership is very important though, and I still think we have too many "quiet" types in key posts

Both Rutten and Talia were leaders & organisers back there

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Redman has coaches votes in 7 out of 11 games prior to this round, with only Dawson and Laird having more votes for us, and Merrett for Essendon. So basically you're saying every game where he isn't 'very average' he's in the best half dozen players on the field as judged by the coaches. Which seems like pretty high praise to me.

Of course, it depends on what Redman's role is .....the ESS defence is not that great for talls

The stat I'm aware of is that Redman suffers more in ESS losses than wins .....strange really, because defenders usually do better when the ball is in their zone more

And the ESS defence has been chipping it around more in DEF, where other sides are exiting the D50 quickly ......that pads the Defenders stats

 

[PeterSalt]

Possibly .....have we seen any evidence though any leadership qualities .....it's hard to tell, as it was with Dawson

Defensive leadership is very important though, and I still think we have too many "quiet" types in key posts

Both Rutten and Talia were leaders & organisers back there

Darcy Moore and Billy Frampton

I remember my Floggingwood supporting mate asking me about how Frampton would go last year. My response was that he'd probably be ok. Lepitsch has a history of simplifying roles for defenders.

Moore is extremely good at organising the defence on field. They have a settled back 6 with Moore, Maynard, Quaynor, Noble. Add Daicos playing off of HBF and good midfield support.

Frampton still looked like a deer in the headlights on occasion in the first couple of games I watched with him playing a KPD. But its seemed to working for them

 

[Mutineer]

You can see what Keane can do in the SANFL, and it isn't enough.

Correct, nothing to enthuse about yet, Borlase clearly better to this point.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Darcy Moore and Billy Frampton

I remember my Floggingwood supporting mate asking me about how Frampton would go last year. My response was that he'd probably be ok. Lepitsch has a history of simplifying roles for defenders.

Moore is extremely good at organising the defence on field. They have a settled back 6 with Moore, Maynard, Quaynor, Noble. Add Daicos playing off of HBF and good midfield support.

Frampton still looked like a deer in the headlights on occasion in the first couple of games I watched with him playing a KPD. But its seemed to working for them

I agree re Moore's defensive organisation is great .....I just don't see it with Murray / Butts though ....we'll miss Doedee from a leadership perspective down there.

 

[PeterSalt]

I agree re Moore's defensive organisation is great .....I just don't see it with Murray / Butts though ....we'll miss Doedee from a leadership perspective down there.

Both Butts and Murray are probably both completely absorbed in their own roles/games right now. Perhaps it a time/experience thing.

Agree we'll miss that from Doedee.

 

[Betts are off]

Oof, this is tough news for Tom. I didn't think it looked that bad on Saturday night.

Get better soon.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Oof, this is tough news for Tom. I didn't think it looked that bad on Saturday night.

Get better soon.

They often don't look that bad. Sometimes you get the really obvious ones like Sloane's but not always. You often see them walking around afterward too which gives you the impression it's not that bad.

 

[Geoffa32]

My brother did his ACL in the mid 90s.

Played out the game, then another the next day. Junior SANFL and club footy. Often played two games in a weekend.

Wasn't till Tuesday it started to hurt and our GP told him to go to a specialist.

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[skam85]

Of course, it depends on what Redman's role is .....the ESS defence is not that great for talls

The stat I'm aware of is that Redman suffers more in ESS losses than wins .....strange really, because defenders usually do better when the ball is in their zone more

And the ESS defence has been chipping it around more in DEF, where other sides are exiting the D50 quickly ......that pads the Defenders stats

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This screenshot proves what exactly? You've literally just shared Essendon's results and Redman's fantasy stats

 

[Golumless]

Wish him all the best in recovery, whether he is at Adelaide or elsewhere next year.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

This screenshot proves what exactly? You've literally just shared Essendon's results and Redman's fantasy stats

If I have to explain them to you ...then it would be too long an explanation

BTW they're the ranking points Champion Data use to rate players .....rightly or wrongly ....however they should be dovetailed with SC stats which IMO are more in-depth, and add to the picture

 

[MsTopG]

If I have to explain them to you ...then it would be too long an explanation

BTW they're the ranking points Champion Data use to rate players .....rightly or wrongly ....however they should be dovetailed with SC stats which IMO are more in-depth, and add to the picture

I haven't ever considered Redman for my supercoach team. Tim Watson rates Redman who is a fairly good judge. Just moved into the top 6k for supercoach. My goal is the top 1k.

 

[ABAB]

Possibly .....have we seen any evidence though any leadership qualities .....it's hard to tell, as it was with Dawson

Defensive leadership is very important though, and I still think we have too many "quiet" types in key posts

Both Rutten and Talia were leaders & organisers back there

According to Essendon supporters, he is a leader so could possibly getting Dawson 2.0.

 

[Mutineer]

 

[Redleg Crow]

Shit news. All the best for him. When he plays well we have a damn good defence

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Have they said if it's the same knee just re-injured. Both knees could spell career.

 

[MsTopG]

Have they said if it's the same knee just re-injured. Both knees could spell career.

Different knee.

 

[MarcusP2]

Have they said if it's the same knee just re-injured. Both knees could spell career.

It's the other one.

 

[skam85]

If I have to explain them to you ...then it would be too long an explanation

BTW they're the ranking points Champion Data use to rate players .....rightly or wrongly ....however they should be dovetailed with SC stats which IMO are more in-depth, and add to the picture

Oh I know the answer, and it starts with "you're" and ends with "a giant nuffie"

Fantasy stats prove nothing.

 

[MsTopG]

Will be interesting to see what happens with Doedee. Had he already told the club he was off and if he had will that club still take him now or was that dependant on him being fully fit. I would presume if the crows had offered him a deal and he rejected that deal to take up a deal with Geelong for example that club takes on the risk as Tom was foregoing a guaranteed contract with us. Generally speaking the knee is meant to be stronger after an ACL so if Tom is back round 8 I don't think a club like Geelong will worry too much about that. The deal may have only been 2-3 years by another club due to the fact that he has suffered an ACL previously so their risk isn't that great.

 

[Mutineer]