List Mgmt. 2023 Draft Thread - Part I

[gringo2011]

Harry Demattia sounds like he fits the bill and will go at around our pick?

He's still not a pure inside mid but I think he'd be the sort of player that Lyon likes. He's quite quick and can win his own ball but likes to go as well. I see him like a hybrid between Byrnes and Steele. He's got cult figure written all over him too.

McKercher is the one we'd want but he'll be gone by pick 4 or 5.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Harry Demattia sounds like he fits the bill and will go at around our pick?

His kicking seems to be the question on him.

 

[bird_man]

Have you seen some of his footage, he plays a super attractive game. I'm sold on guys who play pretty footy and he's got all the tricks. Looks a natural football with mad skills.

I sure have and no doubt he looks slick.

But he is another wingman and in his last two games (which were finals) he had 12 amd 17 touches.

Other than some nice looking highlights I can't get overly excited about him.

 

[gringo2011]

I sure have and no doubt he looks slick.

But he is another wingman and in his last two games (which were finals) he had 12 amd 17 touches.

Other than some nice looking highlights I can't get overly excited about him.

Pretty sure Lyon said he wants outside run. Wings can play off HB, high HF, true wings, even as first receiver. I don't think there is going to be much in the way of mids around our first pick. 17 for an outside player isn't that bad. 12 is pretty ordinary though.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Pretty sure Lyon said he wants outside run. Wings can play off HB, high HF, true wings, even as first receiver. I don't think there is going to be much in the way of mids around our first pick. 17 for an outside player isn't that bad. 12 is pretty ordinary though.

Depends how good the player is - NWM looks like a good pick even at 11.

 

[bird_man]

Pretty sure Lyon said he wants outside run. Wings can play off HB, high HF, true wings, even as first receiver. I don't think there is going to be much in the way of mids around our first pick. 17 for an outside player isn't that bad. 12 is pretty ordinary though.

We are already getting Henry though. The inside is definitely our main area of need.

As you say though, there may not be a lot around our pick.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

His kicking seems to be the question on him.

Yep, can be sloppy. He has good pace and good competitiveness. He’s not perfect, but perhaps he could be one our next gen Jack Steven.

 

[saintmike65]

He does look good. That’s why the draft is tough and you get all sorts of strange results! He becomes either a low production VFL player or if he improves, he’s got some great qualities.

Wonder what it was Geelong saw with Holmes based on his year - sure the athletic capability, but he was viewed as a big reach at that time.

Geelong have a fabulous track record of projecting future upside..they also have great development system which helps!

 

[saintmike65]

Hotton is a mid/forward

McLennan no

McLennan’s a half back flanker…promising type but injury prone!

 

[saintmike65]

Still though. The thing we're missing in our midfield is speed. Don't think Stevens is our guy, much as I like him.

He’s no slower than Crouch or Steele…worth a look if still available 2nd or 3rd round

 

[bird_man]

McLennan’s a half back flanker…promising type but injury prone!

Yes, I was responding to the question as to whether he was a midfielder

 

[ScrappyDo]

He’s no slower than Crouch or Steele…worth a look if still available 2nd or 3rd round

Can't see him lasting till our 2nd but stranger things have happened and we tend to over think it in here.
No one ever saw Nas as an option, or that Hotton would be available at #35 for example.

I suspect everyone just has a spreadsheet that does their selecting for them anyway. Boring....

 

[sunny3193]

I suspect everyone just has a spreadsheet that does their selecting for them anyway. Boring....

Not to me!

 

[ScrappyDo]

Not to me!

Same. I wanna see the functions more than the draft..

 

[Holy Hunter Clark]

George Stevens has been Named for South Warrnambools Senior side in the middle tomorrow. In a team that has a few Ex AFL players in Dan Nicholson, Ricky Henderson

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Ricky Henderson

Age

36

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.4

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

15.0

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.6

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.2

3star

CL

0.8

3star

and our very own Josh Saunders

Josh Saunders

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.8

3star

K

4.5

2star

HB

6.2

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.5

5star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.2

3star

. His brother Archie who is VFL listed with Carlton is also playing who looked pretty good at the Level before a footy injury. Their opponent North Warrnambool has Nathan Vardy

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Nathan Vardy

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

3.2

1star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

1.3

3star

HO

17.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.6

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

HO

15.0

5star

as their ruck so a few AFL players tomorrow running around.

Lual is playing in the 18s GF for South which I'll be there to watch as well, and absolutely no doubt that he will be a bit too good for the local junior level.

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[gringo2011]

George Stevens has been Named for South Warrnambools Senior side in the middle tomorrow. In a team that has a few Ex AFL players in Dan Nicholson, Ricky Henderson and our very own Josh Saunders. His brother Archie who is VFL listed with Carlton is also playing who looked pretty good at the Level before a footy injury. Their opponent North Warrnambool has Nathan Vardy as their ruck so a few AFL players tomorrow running around.

Lual is playing in the 18s GF for South which I'll be there to watch as well, and absolutely no doubt that he will be a bit too good for the local junior level.

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[snails13]

Getting our hands on GC pick 4 seems a stretch unless a whole lot goes in our favour and even then it probably costs our first an Gresham and possibly Howard. That pick 4 is probably going to move to 6 on draft night with a Walter bid and McKay comp pushing it out.

Top 4 look pretty locked Reid Walter McKercher Dursma

1 WC - Reid
2 GC - Walter (NGA Bid)
3 Nth - McKercher
4 Nth - Dursma (McKay Comp)
5 Haw - Watson / Curtin / Sanders

Pick 6

That puts the pick in the Watson/Curtin/Sanders range. Sanders meets the midfield need but if the AFL give Sanders to North. We are probably selecting between Watson and Curtin or IMO Conner O’Sullivan who I believe should be in that same mix.

Curtin is class but would add one more undersized defender to Wilkie and Battle. Not really addressing a need at all.

O’Sullivan to me has all the tools to be a star key defender is an interceptor tall enough to take the key forwards and really good decision maker and user. Cherry on top he is a leader, absolutely one of my favourites in the draft. He would fit perfectly with Wilkie and Battle. But it would be a reach at 6 and maybe he doesn’t have the elite potential of some of the others.

Watson is unique and might be a star but he is 4 foot tall big call to give up all that capital for a small forward. Maybe a King Watson duo transforms our forward line but equally there is a chance that the step up in size weight speeed at AFL level is to much for him.

Sanders would be the best fit for our immediate needs high production midfielder big barrel chested type with a burst when he needs it but just racks up the possessions

If we stay at pick 13 that is likely to drift out to 17 or 18 by the time we pick well out of the range of O’Sullivan and Wilson. Means we are really picking outside the elite group I actually wouldn’t be against trading out our first into next years draft as long as we got something back in this draft I think it is the kind of draft you can do better with two high 20’s pick than one mid to late teens pick. Most picks after about 12 are going to be speculative this year not a lot of separation from 12 to 40. Obviously that only makes sense if the ones Toce does like are going to be around in the 20’s and 30’s and I don’t watch enough to differentiate between that big group.

There are a few talents that haven’t set the world on fire in the champs or seem to have drifted - Ashton Moir looked like a top 5 pick last year now not in the top 30 cynical side says he might be tanking like Jack Darling did to increase the chance of staying in Adelaide.
Archer Reid could be a good key forward didn’t really light it up after looking the goods last year. Then there is Tholstrup and DeLean Lorenz and even Philliacides the drop off I think has really diluted this draft because there hasn’t been a lot pushing up to displace them more them just not performing.

No doubt there will be diamonds in the teens twenties and thirties so a real test of Toce and our draft teams eye. Shows why it is hard to make the leap from mid table list to contender.

Those picks that drop us from Pick 13 to 17 or 18 a likely going to be 3 Gold Coast Academy players and a Bulldogs Father Son which we can't select any way so if they all do get selected before our pick isn't only the NM Free Agent pick the only pick that would affect our choice of player at our 1st pick

 

[ScrappyDo]

Those picks that drop us from Pick 13 to 17 or 18 a likely going to be 3 Gold Coast Academy players and a Bulldogs Father Son which we can't select any way so if they all do get selected before our pick isn't only the NM Free Agent pick the only pick that would affect our choice of player at our 1st pick

And they're all KPP's so of no interest to us anyway.
It's really not a problem, and its a good top 20 without the normal 5 or 6 exceptional types.

 

[gringo2011]

And they're all KPP's so of no interest to us anyway.
It's really not a problem, and its a good top 20 without the normal 5 or 6 exceptional types.

It's giving me 2017 vibes. Lots of guys that look like they could be GOPs and lots of first rounders that might not make it but a handful of later draft picks that will end up being better than some of the early ones.

 

[Holy Hunter Clark]

Beautiful day in the 'Bool.

Lual clearly best on for South in the 18s even though they went down by 3 points. His speed and precise kicking on show. Had a few moments in the last were he rolled the dice and left his opponent to impact a contest and resulted in a F50 entry. Like I said earlier, certainly too good for the level.

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[ScrappyDo]

It's giving me 2017 vibes. Lots of guys that look like they could be GOPs and lots of first rounders that might not make it but a handful of later draft picks that will end up being better than some of the early ones.

I'm taking much note this year but that's a good analogy l think.

 

[Strahany]

Beautiful day in the 'Bool.

Lual clearly best on for South in the 18s even though they went down by 3 points. His speed and precise kicking on show. Had a few moments in the last were he rolled the dice and left his opponent to impact a contest and resulted in a F50 entry. Like I said earlier, certainly too good for the level. View attachment 1811411

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How's the hard solo?

 

[austinnn]

I suppose it's better than a Low, so hard.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

GF day. Some interesting guys running around for sure.

 

[bird_man]

Keen to have a look at Charlie Edwards who could be one around our pick