List Mgmt. 2023 Draft Thread - Part I

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Getting our hands on GC pick 4 seems a stretch unless a whole lot goes in our favour and even then it probably costs our first an Gresham and possibly Howard. That pick 4 is probably going to move to 6 on draft night with a Walter bid and McKay comp pushing it out.

Top 4 look pretty locked Reid Walter McKercher Dursma

1 WC - Reid
2 GC - Walter (NGA Bid)
3 Nth - McKercher
4 Nth - Dursma (McKay Comp)
5 Haw - Watson / Curtin / Sanders

Pick 6

That puts the pick in the Watson/Curtin/Sanders range. Sanders meets the midfield need but if the AFL give Sanders to North. We are probably selecting between Watson and Curtin or IMO Conner O’Sullivan who I believe should be in that same mix.

Curtin is class but would add one more undersized defender to Wilkie and Battle. Not really addressing a need at all.

O’Sullivan to me has all the tools to be a star key defender is an interceptor tall enough to take the key forwards and really good decision maker and user. Cherry on top he is a leader, absolutely one of my favourites in the draft. He would fit perfectly with Wilkie and Battle. But it would be a reach at 6 and maybe he doesn’t have the elite potential of some of the others.

Watson is unique and might be a star but he is 4 foot tall big call to give up all that capital for a small forward. Maybe a King Watson duo transforms our forward line but equally there is a chance that the step up in size weight speeed at AFL level is to much for him.

Sanders would be the best fit for our immediate needs high production midfielder big barrel chested type with a burst when he needs it but just racks up the possessions

If we stay at pick 13 that is likely to drift out to 17 or 18 by the time we pick well out of the range of O’Sullivan and Wilson. Means we are really picking outside the elite group I actually wouldn’t be against trading out our first into next years draft as long as we got something back in this draft I think it is the kind of draft you can do better with two high 20’s pick than one mid to late teens pick. Most picks after about 12 are going to be speculative this year not a lot of separation from 12 to 40. Obviously that only makes sense if the ones Toce does like are going to be around in the 20’s and 30’s and I don’t watch enough to differentiate between that big group.

There are a few talents that haven’t set the world on fire in the champs or seem to have drifted - Ashton Moir looked like a top 5 pick last year now not in the top 30 cynical side says he might be tanking like Jack Darling did to increase the chance of staying in Adelaide.
Archer Reid could be a good key forward didn’t really light it up after looking the goods last year. Then there is Tholstrup and DeLean Lorenz and even Philliacides the drop off I think has really diluted this draft because there hasn’t been a lot pushing up to displace them more them just not performing.

No doubt there will be diamonds in the teens twenties and thirties so a real test of Toce and our draft teams eye. Shows why it is hard to make the leap from mid table list to contender.
 
Yep George Stevens for mine. Overlooking a gun because you are looking for pace is how you get in trouble in drafting. Jack Peris has pace. Yes we need some pace but you dont get it by drafting a fast guy ahead of a guy who will be the better player. Stevens looks like a beast.

29 posessions in his first VFL game. The guy is a beast.
agree, also he doesn't look slow to the eye, game speed and combine speed are two different things
 

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Bolters, maybe later picks

Cooper Simpson - wing, mid. 182cm 76kg- Dandenong stingrays

Cam Nyko - defender. 180cm 78kg- Eastern Ranges. Saints have interviewed 2 times
Simpson would be a great get from 20 onwards. Staggeringly underrated.

Nyko looks like he has the talent. Has had a very poor year though.
 
agree, also he doesn't look slow to the eye, game speed and combine speed are two different things
A player who's an extractor/clearance specialist can be slow, like a Cripps.

It's when you're slow and just average or below average in the clearance stats then you become a liability like Clark.

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We need a small forward with Peris gone and needing to put some heat on Higgins and Butler. It was noticeable last week how much we need something better.

Jack Delean?
Jack, South Australian and looks like he has a bit of FIGJAM about him like all the great small forwards so will fit in with our other SA FIGJAM kid.

Maybe an option if we get another pick in the mid to late 20's as that looks around his mark?

Any thoughts from SA watchers?
Tarkyn O'Leary a late pick, played a few games for the Zebs & was lively forward.
 

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Going on that list & where our pick may end up?, Caleb Windsor, thanks!!!
Suited to the outside and not a huge accumulator, but plenty of pace.

Not sure he's a need with NWM and now Henry coming in, but as it stands we are going to have to be very lucky for someone that suits our needs perfectly to fall to our pick.
 
Suited to the outside and not a huge accumulator, but plenty of pace.

Not sure he's a need with NWM and now Henry coming in, but as it stands we are going to have to be very lucky for someone that suits our needs perfectly to fall to our pick.
He's possibly one of the best kicks in the draft, doesn't mind a tackle, so could develop his inside work.
And with Hill & Wood particularly, nearer to the end, can't see why not? And a best available pick?
 
Suited to the outside and not a huge accumulator, but plenty of pace.

Not sure he's a need with NWM and now Henry coming in, but as it stands we are going to have to be very lucky for someone that suits our needs perfectly to fall to our pick.


Have you seen some of his footage, he plays a super attractive game. I'm sold on guys who play pretty footy and he's got all the tricks. Looks a natural football with mad skills.
 
He's possibly one of the best kicks in the draft, doesn't mind a tackle, so could develop his inside work.
And with Hill & Wood particularly, nearer to the end, can't see why not? And a best available pick?


He remind me of some of those smooth moving premiership Hawks and has a bit of Bailey Smith run but with much much better ball use. Smith has great vision but struggles with the execution sometimes. If he can get his production higher he'll be a star.
 
He remind me of some of those smooth moving premiership Hawks and has a bit of Bailey Smith run but with much much better ball use. Smith has great vision but struggles with the execution sometimes. If he can get his production higher he'll be a star.
He does look good. That’s why the draft is tough and you get all sorts of strange results! He becomes either a low production VFL player or if he improves, he’s got some great qualities.

Wonder what it was Geelong saw with Holmes based on his year - sure the athletic capability, but he was viewed as a big reach at that time.
 
He does look good. That’s why the draft is tough and you get all sorts of strange results! He becomes either a low production VFL player or if he improves, he’s got some great qualities.

Wonder what it was Geelong saw with Holmes based on his year - sure the athletic capability, but he was viewed as a big reach at that time.


I think he has plenty of upside. Doubt he ends up a low production VFL player. He's not getting embarrassing numbers, especially for a wingman. They all rely on a bit of feeding so in a shit side he'd probably struggle but he's got lovely poise and skills.
 
We skilful ball pigs with decent pace and a decent step

Surely that's no asking for too much

No more *ing flankers


It's a weird draft with very few ball pig types. Especially in our range. Next year is a stacked midfield draft.
 
after ragging on that last video of collard, I've changed my tune after seeing this




looks like a chris judd/simon black/dal santo hybrid that is being played in the fwd pocket in order to give the other team a chance


extremely quick off the line and great foot skills... has he played a full game in the guts?



Yeah, I reckon he looks good.
 

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