Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[CaptainWorpedo]

Oh well people it could be worse!

An just remember they haven’t even got the McKay compo yet!

 

[TheHawkSource]

To be honest, back to my Chol + Pick 4 scenario and other teams having better offers - can see North trading pick 14 and 19, or even the 2 future firsts they have received for 2024 to GCS for Pick 4 + Chol, makes sense, fills a need for them that they desperately need... Then it gives them...:

Pick 2, 3 and 4.

Boom.

 

[tl92]

So surely they’ll just trade their priority picks to GC for pick 4, essentially getting what they wanted (pick 3) anyway.

 

[hardway]

Given the ‘reviewable’ nature of Norths future picks they’re incentivised to trade them out. Could easily offer 14, 18 and F1 to GC for 5.

So basically North will likely get Pick 3 for a B-grade player and Pick 5 out of thin air. Absolutely disgusting.

It looks that way, the assistance package is set up to complete a trade with the Suns

 

[Judd2Sewell]

lol

Trying to manifest it, don't ruin it for me (for us)

 

[WWSD]

Could D’Ambrosio play on the wing? He would be competing against Jiath, Impey & Mitchell for a spot across half back.

 

[Yardie]

To be honest, back to my Chol + Pick 4 scenario and other teams having better offers - can see North trading pick 14 and 19, or even the 2 future firsts they have received for 2024 to GCS for Pick 4 + Chol, makes sense, fills a need for them that they desperately need... Then it gives them...:

Pick 2, 3 and 4.

Boom.

2, 3 and 5. Our pick doesn't disappear if they get 3 for McKay.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

So surely they’ll just trade their priority picks to GC for pick 4, essentially getting what they wanted (pick 3) anyway.

The AFL sign off on all trades and they simply shouldn’t do it in this instance.

Giving North a package of picks only for them to bundle them up to get a solitary top 5 pick would fly in the face of the assistance being given.

 

[triple treat]

Pretty sure it's been mentioned before but GC already have plenty of points this year and have players that look like they will be traded giving them more points fo matching this year. I reckon they will still want some points to offset pick four this year but will be after the best pick they can get next year IMO.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

The AFL sign off on all trades and they simply shouldn’t do it in this instance.

Giving North a package of picks only for them to bundle them up to get a solitary top 5 pick would fly in the face of the assistance being given.

yep totally agree. What is the point?

 

[HawthornHawk]

The AFL sign off on all trades and they simply shouldn’t do it in this instance.

Giving North a package of picks only for them to bundle them up to get a solitary top 5 pick would fly in the face of the assistance being given.

Have a feeling they've been given this suite of picks specifically so they can..

 

[TheHawkSource]

2, 3 and 5. Our pick doesn't disappear if they get 3 for McKay.

They do if they trade us for it!

But yes, my apologies, 2, 3 and 5 then.

 

[triple treat]

Brockman, pick 33 and future 4th to WC
Pick 19 to Hawks
Koschitzke and future 3rd to Tigers
pick 28 to Hawks
Scrimshaw to Roos
Pick 17 to Hawks
Future 1st, pick 19 and pick 28 to GC
pick 4 to Hawks

 

[dermott]

To be honest, back to my Chol + Pick 4 scenario and other teams having better offers - can see North trading pick 14 and 19, or even the 2 future firsts they have received for 2024 to GCS for Pick 4 + Chol, makes sense, fills a need for them that they desperately need... Then it gives them...:

Pick 2, 3 and 4.

Boom.

It may be hard to trade the 2 future firsts if they are subject to review.

 

[hardway]

It may be hard to trade the 2 future firsts if they are subject to review.

Nothing is beyond this organisation

 

[The hands of stone]

And they either tank in 2024 or they don’t get the end of first round picks.

Apparently the 2nd end of 1st will be off the table if they win around 5 plus games . So yes probably would need to tank it.
A few people have told me the same thing now.

 

[cryptor]

So surely they’ll just trade their priority picks to GC for pick 4, essentially getting what they wanted (pick 3) anyway.

That screenshot says the future picks will be reviewed next year but they can still use them in trades this year.

I don’t see how you can have both. North would surely trade them before they risk having them stripped if they perform well next year.

 

[Philhawk]

I don’t see how you can have both. North would surely trade them before they risk having them stripped if they perform well next year.

It's perfect for the AFL.

North gets a high draft pick to potentially use for Sanders.

GC get picks to help match for their 3 Queensland boys.

The AFL gets exactly they want under the facade of a free and open market.

 

[Topiary]

It's perfect for the AFL.

North gets a high draft pick to potentially use for Sanders.

GC get picks to help match for their 3 Queensland boys.

The AFL gets exactly they want under the facade of a free and open market.

Said it in one.

 

[NICE1]

Such a shit compromised competition. I fall out of love with the game more and more every year.

That's what happens when politicians get a hold of the game I guess.

 

[DogDaySonny]

That screenshot says the future picks will be reviewed next year but they can still use them in trades this year.

I don’t see how you can have both. North would surely trade them before they risk having them stripped if they perform well next year.

They aren’t going to take them away next year. They are simply reserving themselves the right to cancel them if North do really well, move them up if North suck, or keep them at the end of the round if North trade them. Or move them up if they trade them to GCS and the AFL want to give GCS some free stuff and blame it on North, saying it’s out of their hands.

The statement is meaningless beyond the fact that it allows the AFL to grift this league however they like and without recourse for the clubs.

 

[butlers hawks]

It may be hard to trade the 2 future firsts if they are subject to review.

Once they are traded they are no longer subject to review, to me thats why they are more tradeable to North who potentially think they will improve or why else even show up to work?

 

[Kuuz]

I know I'm moaning, but jesus I hate the compensation nonsense.

Norf literally sold themselves into this situation through terrible management, picking non-coaches to head coach positions and axing all their senior players bar Ziebell in one swift move. Instead of reaping what they sow, AFL just rewards poor mismanagement.

Whilst not a complete given, based on how slow development can be, if you load them up now, it almost becomes a shoe-in they become way too stacked in a few years time. Just utter reactionism from AFL and compromising the draft completely this year.

Those in finals are getting the absolute dregs from this years draft.

With all the academy picks & compensation nonsense - West Coast's second pick is going to be close to pick 30 at this rate, which is just shocking after the season they had.

How the rest of the clubs are just eating this without even so much as a peep is beyond me. I'd be absolutely fuming.

 

[Wingnut19]

They take us as idiots. First trade to go down will be gold coast pick 4 for priority pick 19, and one if not both picks next year. With that pick 4 North select, you guessed it Ryley Sanders. It’s a ****in Bush league.

 

[hardway]

I know I'm moaning, but jesus I hate the compensation nonsense.

Norf literally sold themselves into this situation through terrible management, picking non-coaches to head coach positions and axing all their senior players bar Ziebell in one swift move. Instead of reaping what they sow, AFL just rewards poor mismanagement.

Whilst not a complete given, based on how slow development can be, if you load them up now, it almost becomes a shoe-in they become way too stacked in a few years time. Just utter reactionism from AFL and compromising the draft completely this year.

Those in finals are getting the absolute dregs from this years draft.

With all the academy picks & compensation nonsense - West Coast's second pick is going to be close to pick 30 at this rate, which is just shocking after the season they had.

How the rest of the clubs are just eating this without even so much as a peep is beyond me. I'd be absolutely fuming.

100% correct

Eagles are a club that actually adds value to the competition, whereas North don’t and won’t put bums on seats nor eyes on tv screens.

I know which club I would be giving assistance package to for the betterment of the league and it’s definitely not one that hops around with their pouch out.