Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[Judd2Sewell]

How could any of you suggest he could be put up for trade? Especially to those handbaggers? We grew him, he's ours! He's Hawthorn through and through.

Because he's the most replaceable and least versatile of our deep midfield unit, and the club quite clearly wants Reid but would need to sacrifice someone to achieve this.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Seems like DGB was mentioned in early chatter about potential trades, but not so much anymore... Did the club rule that out publicly, or are we taking silence as a sign there's nothing happening?

Contracted and doesn’t want to leave. Club have told him he’s not going to be traded at this point, but he knows 2024 is big.

 

[Faraway Hawk]

JUH manager will be calling hawks management weekly to continuously pump up the price.

I wouldn't have thought JUH would need the Hawks to pump up his price. I am sure some club will come with an even more ridiculous offer than what Naughton was offered to get JUH next year. Collingwood and Sydney are right in the frame.

The Hawks better start thinking of these 8-10 year deals if they are to ever to lure a high end KPP in the right age bracket. There's no point in saving this salary cap and paying players to play in premierships for other clubs. Let's use the money and get a King or JUH through the door next year.

 

[onthemoney]

Contracted and doesn’t want to leave. Club have told him he’s not going to be traded at this point, but he knows 2024 is big.

Ripper, thanks for the reply.

Yeah hopefully a breakout year to come.

 

[Howe Amazing]

Will Chol get done?

 

[Newmo89]

Contracted and doesn’t want to leave. Club have told him he’s not going to be traded at this point, but he knows 2024 is big.

Correct SYL - a massive pre season coming up for Shaggy

Spoke to him before the PCM - had his exit interview and asked Sam where he would be played in 2024 - Sam told him that the club see him as a forward, so he is going to be working on his forward craft over the off season.

Derm is at this stage going to be his mentor and assist him with his forward craft as well.

Also, lots of people saying he wants to head home or be traded back to Perth - he's settled in Melbourne and really enjoys it here and has no inkling to return home.

Things are always fluid but ideally head of development Andy Collins believes DGB can become a versatile tall who can play either end of the ground.

 

[butlers hawks]

Will Chol get done?

when players nominate a club they generally do. When its a club not run by Dodo they basically always do

 

[nickrebellious]

Because he's the most replaceable and least versatile of our deep midfield unit, and the club quite clearly wants Reid but would need to sacrifice someone to achieve this.

I don't think you can recontract and then trade the player in the same year. Might be wrong, but I remember reading this.

 

[Manila_Hawk]

Bern away a few hours. 40 pages of posts. Did I miss anything?

If you remove the words Shinbeggar, Bazlenka and steak knives from those 40 pages.... no, you missed nothing.

 

[DrkNyt]

 

[theiaofseed]

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When McAdams is worth a pick in the 20's you understand.

 

[VandoHawk]

Not completely certain about us knocking back 44. Would we be aiming for 37 instead?

 

[tommyk72]

Is there anyone likely to slip through to the PSD that we don't want WCE to take? Maybe Ambrosio? In that case it makes sense to let him walk if we don't get an offer we like.

 

[Blackhawk42]

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Considering the circumstances, I'd probably just take pick 44.

I feel as though come final day that's what will happen.

 

[Millsie69]

We knew.

#OrangeFont

 

[Mrzohs]

Correct SYL - a massive pre season coming up for Shaggy

Spoke to him before the PCM - had his exit interview and asked Sam where he would be played in 2024 - Sam told him that the club see him as a forward, so he is going to be working on his forward craft over the off season.

Derm is at this stage going to be his mentor and assist him with his forward craft as well.

Also, lots of people saying he wants to head home or be traded back to Perth - he's settled in Melbourne and really enjoys it here and has no inkling to return home.

Things are always fluid but ideally head of development Andy Collins believes DGB can become a versatile tall who can play either end of the ground.

Great news, I liked the small snippet i sore off him up forward he crashed packs and competed well.
Build that tank in the off season repeated second efforts, and hold those marks. Dermie can make him a smart footballer!

 

[Flukey!]

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Surely they won't give up 23 so that leaves 37, based on what picks they have currently.

 

[spudmaster]

Surely they won't give up 23 so that leaves 37, based on what picks they have currently.

We're probably waiting to see if they end up with something else in-between from any #1 trade swaps perhaps.

 

[Dewnior]

So the A grade talent that the ITKs were spruiking weeks ago is in fact Norman?

/thread

 

[Colloquy]

Correct SYL - a massive pre season coming up for Shaggy

Spoke to him before the PCM - had his exit interview and asked Sam where he would be played in 2024 - Sam told him that the club see him as a forward, so he is going to be working on his forward craft over the off season.

Derm is at this stage going to be his mentor and assist him with his forward craft as well.

Also, lots of people saying he wants to head home or be traded back to Perth - he's settled in Melbourne and really enjoys it here and has no inkling to return home.

Things are always fluid but ideally head of development Andy Collins believes DGB can become a versatile tall who can play either end of the ground.

Hopefully we have a contract in place as we don’t want another Brockman situation.


Any more news on the pick swap with dogs as there is nothing on it in the news that doggies are even looked at it must be very hush hush.

 

[hawkinoz]

Considering the circumstances, I'd probably just take pick 44.

I feel as though come final day that's what will happen.

We may well be waiting to see if Eagles will trade Pick 1 for one of pick 2/3 + atleast 2 of the norths teens pick ( 15,17,18)

If that happens Eagles may happily add pick 53 as well to the mix or a F3/F4.

I expect Eagles to on draft night swap one of the teens pick for 2 of suns pick in 20's & 30's. Will give them the best hand to trade in Quality WA talent. Atleast 4 quality WA talent in the 15-40 range.

the hold up likely is that North are willing to part with only 1 teens pick and Eagles may be asking for all 3.

I hope clubs make bids on Walter and Read within the Top 5 picks. Easily worth it. Walter should be bid on at Pick 1 IMO too.

Read was Top 3 in 2Km time trial at Combine. Impressive for a very tall bloke.

Only reason we don't bid on either should be because Suns asked us not to as they made a deal for Chol with a 3rd round pick

the current draft order by clubs is

 

[Scrads]

Not completely certain about us knocking back 44. Would we be aiming for 37 instead?

Any pick in that range is simply points for a McCabe bid anyway (and that would be their argument).

For that reason I would have thought we'd be pushing for future picks.

 

[Yardie]

I wish Dodoro was our list manager. That guy is a genuine a$$hole every trade season and Essendon have an absolute gangbusters list as a result.

Very well constructed. Must say was reading all the way up to the end thinking WTF are you on about. Well played.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

We knew.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

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I like us playing hardball this period. Irrespective of where these trades land this year and even if some are walked to the PSD, it is a great investment on resetting external mindset on trading with the Hawks. Be serious or heck off.