List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Bandicoot]

I wonder why Ginnivan's goals dropped this year?

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He doesn't get the free kicks any more for ducking.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Ginni is rubbish, too much of his play centres around drawing free kicks. And outside of that he doesnt have a whole heap going for him. He's not going to last long in the league.

To be fair he’s been good this year just that Hill was even better. Not saying we go for him but he’ll be a good forward at a club wherever that is. He’s gotten better at ducking

 

[GoTheSwannies]

To be fair he’s been good this year just that Hill was even better. Not saying we go for him but he’ll be a good forward at a club wherever that is. He’s gotten better at ducking

As in, can now draw more free kicks, or does it less?

He makes things happen, I'll give him that, but I just get flash in the pan vibes about him.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

As in, can now draw more free kicks, or does it less?

He makes things happen, I'll give him that, but I just get flash in the pan vibes about him.

Does it much less used to annoy me to no end but he’s actually a nice talent. Yeah he’s ducked on occasions let’s not pretend we don’t have players that do it too.

Most small forwards are flash players what Ginnavan has to work on is his defensive game though it’s not at the top level yet

 

[Cadsky]

I heard the Carlton execs were pretty disappointed when Wicks rung in from a Lisbon pub via Zoom with a pint of beer in his hand.

Yeah but what did they have to say about Young?

 

[Banyo Bloods]

Ginni is rubbish, too much of his play centres around drawing free kicks. And outside of that he doesnt have a whole heap going for him. He's not going to last long in the league.

Gulden lifts the arm to draw free kicks. Not as blatent but it's definitely part of his game. Ginni kicked 40 goals last year as a small forward in a good team. That is not rubbish.

Don't let his antics blind you to him being a guy that makes the most of limited opportunity.

Could easily fall away but the kid knows how to snag a goal. Wouldn't that be terrible to have in our team.

 

[rustycrate]

It's GRASS

We are not American

I had a mate who had not a lot of coin so he went on holidays to Lorne. FRONT LAWN.

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

Read that in a Sir David Attenborough voice

And now I can’t read it in any other voice.


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[Grand Uncle Horace]

I'm not a fan of the guy but I'd love us to go after Ginnivan

Doubt he leaves Melbourne though

cannot believe you and other folks would entertain trading that guy in. HE IS INCAPABLE OF WINNING CONTESTED POSSESSION.

An appalling footballer.

 

[caesar88]

cannot believe you and other folks would entertain trading that guy in. HE IS INCAPABLE OF WINNING CONTESTED POSSESSION.

An appalling footballer.

He's 20 years old and has 58 goals from 42 games. He is far from the complete package but what 20 year old is?

Funny how if our kids have form slumps it's because they're developing, but when opposition kids have form slumps is because they're no good.

And I'll reiterate that I have no warm feelings for Ginnivan.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

He's 20 years old and has 58 goals from 42 games. He is far from the complete package but what 20 year old is?

Funny how if our kids have form slumps it's because they're developing, but when opposition kids have form slumps is because they're no good.

And I'll reiterate that I have no warm feelings for Ginnivan.

a significant % of the goals were from frees or Jo The Goose scores.

His output diminished once the Umps decided they would not be made fools of..

He is not a pressure forward.

I expect there are behavioural issues .

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

He's 20 years old and has 58 goals from 42 games. He is far from the complete package but what 20 year old is?

Funny how if our kids have form slumps it's because they're developing, but when opposition kids have form slumps is because they're no good.

And I'll reiterate that I have no warm feelings for Ginnivan.

There’s a bit of the Akermanis about the guy. Still wouldn’t take him.

 

[McRobie]

Ginnivan is a me me me bogan, with limited skills outside of winning free kicks. Pass.

 

[bedford]

There’s a bit of the Akermanis about the guy. Still wouldn’t take him.

Aker was a superstar on the ground , nothing like him

 

[RUNVS]

Ginnivan is a me me me bogan, with limited skills outside of winning free kicks. Pass.

He can't even do that these days as he is the definition of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf". He has ducked far too many times that even when he is genuinely hit on the head an umpire likely won't give him a free kick as they think he ducked.

 

[momentbymoment]

To be fair he’s been good this year just that Hill was even better. Not saying we go for him but he’ll be a good forward at a club wherever that is. He’s gotten better at ducking

How long till the Pies fans call him a dirty ducker?

 

[Millky95]

And here it is: the day the fun begins! How many trades actually happened last week but were told to hold off on announcing?

 

[DST]

Why Sokah

Because my son enjoys playing it.


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[Olian]

Dodoro has out done himself this time.

 

[the hypnotoad]

If he was so desperate to go home, why wouldn't he have asked out last year after he got left out of GF team. Why wouldn't he have asked to be traded this year?

I think everyone is worried about nothing.

this mcdonald thing has become one of the most absurdly paranoid themes on this board

 

[the hypnotoad]

To be honest I am not sure I agree. Here is a best 22 Bonz created a few days ago

B: D.Rampe, L.Melican, H.Cunningham
HB: N.Blakey, T.McCartin, J.Lloyd
C: B.Campbell, J.Rowbottom, E.Gulden
HF: W.Hayward, L.McDonald, T.Papley
F: L.Parker, H.McLean, I.Heeney
FOLL: B.Grundy, T.Adams, C.Mills
I/C: O.Florent, J.McInerney, J.Amartey, Ch.Warner
S: R.Fox

and the depth for the midfield is

A.Sheldrick
J.Jordan
R.Roberts
Co.Warner
C.Cleary

that is pretty weak depth.

I actually think we should hang onto Clarke simply because or midfield depth is almost non-existent. 2 or 3 injuries (especially with Mills likely to miss half the season) and we are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

sheldrick will be best 22 when fit
i suspect hamling will be best 22
i am trying not to seem disrespectful to a club great, and i don't want to start a fire, but i'm wondering how much longer rampe commands a place, and the physical wear and tear over his career suggests parker could go the way of ryan o'keefe (ie, a rapid decline) ...
i would (probably) agree both are best 22 now, and going into the new season ... but it's clear from general postings across this board thorugh the season just gone that others have similar question marks over those two champion sydney players
cunningham is another the club would be looking at in the near term ... is jordon a possibility to be groomed as a small defender?
and lloyd ... who will take his role as that defensive organiser ("captain"?) ... is florent that kind of player?

 

[the hypnotoad]

I haven't smoked lawn in 25 years. Now I want some but I'm too old to know anyone selling.

heh heh heh ...

 

[the hypnotoad]

Aker was a superstar on the ground , nothing like him

yeah, that is true, akermanis was a genuine star capable of freakish moments, ginnivan can only dream of being that good, for that long

 

[dosser]

yeah, that is true, akermanis was a genuine star capable of freakish moments, ginnivan can only dream of being that good, for that long

You are not kidding. He would tell the media during the week what he was going to do on the weekend then he would go out there and do it. A true freak on the ground.

 

[ashep]

Anyone who kicks 40 goals in a season of AFL footy has some talent and it's ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

To do it at 19 suggests a bright future.