Review 2023 National Draft Review Thread II [McKercher, Z.Duursma, Goad, W.Dawson, Hardeman, Maley]

[krakouers]

Looking into the crystal ball I conclude Brady is either out shopping for a new blouse or he's going to recruit that guy from Trailer Park Boys

 

[Samsquanch]

Looking into the crystal ball I conclude Brady is either out shopping for a new blouse or he's going to recruit that guy from Trailer Park Boys

 

[Samsquanch]

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[berniemccarthy]

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If we go for Watson, I just hope he doesn't have a career like Spicer where he just seemed too small for AFL football (yes, I am aware they are vastly different in talent levels), Currently listed as 1+inch shorter and lighter than Phoenix.

Anyone got any insight as to how he's gone playing against men?

t wasn’t Phoenix’s height that was the problem. It was his heart.

 

[JGreezy]

If we're at 2 & 3 then I'd be happy with McKercher and Duursma.

But if we're at 1 & 3, and Eagles take McKercher, then I'd go Reid and Watson.

I know that it doesn't make sense but

 

[Ura]

If we're at 2 & 3 then I'd be happy with McKercher and Duursma.

But if we're at 1 & 3, and Eagles take McKercher, then I'd go Reid and Watson.

I know that it doesn't make sense but

I would go Reid Curtin if they took Mckertcher. That being said Watson is a perfect fit for us.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

To the draft watchers who does he compare with from the previous drafts?
Souup roos_fanatic08 Sphynx

I was thinking Jarrod Berry, plays multiple positions, strong overhead and good athleticism. Not elite in any categories, but very good in all.
Looks better by foot than Berry though.

As a defender (which is where I think he will settle at AFL) I think he is very similar to Jordan Ridley. Little bit more agile and has more spring in his leap but he has that natural intercepting ability and composure like Ridley.

 

[the big lebowski]

From shifters tall defender profiles

Zane Zakostelsky
Pronunciation: Zac-oh-stel-ski
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Claremont
Community Club: North Beach
Date of Birth: 14/12/05
Height: 196cm

Tall defender and ruckman who developed rapidly as the year progressed. Was selected in the final two games for Western Australia at the National Championships with his incept marking a feature. Was a consistent performer for Claremont at Colts level averaging 15.2 disposals in 13 matches and was best on ground in the club’s Grand Final win with 22 disposals and 14 hitouts. Followed up that performance by being one of the athletic stars of the National Combine. His standing vertical jump of 80cm ranked number one overall along with producing top-six times in the agility test (8.23 seconds) and 20m sprint (2.95 seconds). Potential Draft bolter who doesn’t turn 18 years until mid-December so has plenty of upside.

I knew he only played footy for 2 years from bball but I didn’t realise he is also a December bday. That’s Uber underdeveloped, matched with his Uber athletic profile and you are really looking at the POTENTIAL for something special. I haven’t seen much of him, infact I’ve only seen his best on ground WAFL colts game and the WA games. But his body work in the ruck in the final was eye catching. He really knew what he was doing in one on one body work. Bodes very well as a full back when you consider his insane leap and speed. Has to be a contender for pick 18 imo.

Wil Dawson
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Gippsland Power
Community Club: Leongatha
Date of Birth: 20/12/05
Height: 200cm

Developed as a potential tall defender throughout the year but also played up forward and in the ruck. Still developing physically having grown 20cm in the past two years but has maintained his ability at ground level, where he is clean below the knees. Doesn’t turn 18 until late December making him only just eligible for this year’s Draft. Showed distinct promise in his 13 games for the Gippsland Power in the Coates Talent League as well as for Victoria Country, where he displayed aggression and intensity in the way he attacked the ball.

20cm in the last two years? Borderline too young for the draft? 200cm defender that also kicked 3 up forward for vic country? A very good contested mark? Aggression and intensity?

Me likey

 

[zoomba23]

11 million x 10 years is the offer in front of him from Sydney allegedly.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

From shifters tall defender profiles

Zane Zakostelsky
Pronunciation: Zac-oh-stel-ski
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Claremont
Community Club: North Beach
Date of Birth: 14/12/05
Height: 196cm

Tall defender and ruckman who developed rapidly as the year progressed. Was selected in the final two games for Western Australia at the National Championships with his incept marking a feature. Was a consistent performer for Claremont at Colts level averaging 15.2 disposals in 13 matches and was best on ground in the club’s Grand Final win with 22 disposals and 14 hitouts. Followed up that performance by being one of the athletic stars of the National Combine. His standing vertical jump of 80cm ranked number one overall along with producing top-six times in the agility test (8.23 seconds) and 20m sprint (2.95 seconds). Potential Draft bolter who doesn’t turn 18 years until mid-December so has plenty of upside.

I knew he only played footy for 2 years from bball but I didn’t realise he is also a December bday. That’s Uber underdeveloped, matched with his Uber athletic profile and you are really looking at the POTENTIAL for something special. I haven’t seen much of him, infact I’ve only seen his best on ground WAFL colts game and the WA games. But his body work in the ruck in the final was eye catching. He really knew what he was doing in one on one body work. Bodes very well as a full back when you consider his insane leap and speed. Has to be a contender for pick 18 imo.

Wil Dawson
State: Victoria Country
State League Club: Gippsland Power
Community Club: Leongatha
Date of Birth: 20/12/05
Height: 200cm

Developed as a potential tall defender throughout the year but also played up forward and in the ruck. Still developing physically having grown 20cm in the past two years but has maintained his ability at ground level, where he is clean below the knees. Doesn’t turn 18 until late December making him only just eligible for this year’s Draft. Showed distinct promise in his 13 games for the Gippsland Power in the Coates Talent League as well as for Victoria Country, where he displayed aggression and intensity in the way he attacked the ball.

20cm in the last two years? Borderline too young for the draft? 200cm defender that also kicked 3 up forward for vic country? A very good contested mark? Aggression and intensity?

Me likey

I’d much rather Dawson than Zakostelsky.

ZZ’s athletic profile is good, but his footy fundamentals like kicking, handballing and decision making are terrible. Yes they can improve but what you are starting with as a base is so low. When he has any pressure on him it’s just dump kicks and handballs to no one. It takes so much to unteach those sorts of things.

Dawson’s biggest asset is that he id a competitor, love seeing that in the big men. Again it’s not something that you can develop in a player, you either have it or you don’t. The fact that he is so young too, is a big selling point. Tonnes of upside and he does all the basics so well for someone his size. Could see him developing into a Harris Andrews style key defender (although I think he prefers to play forward)

 

[SKD]

giantroo

 

[giantroo]

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THE ‘FOOTY HEAD’ IN KANGAROOS’ SIGHTS

Top-five draft prospect Colby McKercher raised eyebrows when he said at a press conference during the draft combine that he didn’t have a favourite AFL team anymore.

However, that is not to say that the 180cm Tasmanian midfielder does not watch much footy.

Quite the opposite is the case for the self-proclaimed “footy head”.

“I’ve been pretty busy with travelling this year so I’ve probably only watched probably three or four games (a week) but when I was playing footy at home or had a week off I’d probably watch nearly seven,” McKercher said.

“I kind of take bits out of Nick Dacos’ game, Zac Butters, Connor Rozee, Errol Gulden, Chad Warner – those kind of guys. They’re quite dynamic midfielders and I watch them quite closely.”

McKercher sat out testing at the national draft combine earlier this month due to minor foot injury, but clubs already knew just want an athlete he is with his speed and agility.

The left-footer has firmly sat as a top-five prospect since the start of the year given his athletic attributes, elite decision making and ability to be damaging inside and outside of the contest.

“Whoever gets their hands on him is going to have a beauty,” one recruiter said.

McKercher is believed to be firmly in the frame for North Melbourne, if the Kangaroos hold onto picks two and three in this year’s draft.

“I’m not too bothered about destinations or picks or anything like that,” McKercher said.

“I’m just going to go with the flow and keep training and wherever I end up, I end up. I’m going to be over the moon.”

Colby McKercher doesn’t support a single team but loves watching AFL footy. Picture: Michael Klein

 

[Mute Point]

THE ‘FOOTY HEAD’ IN KANGAROOS’ SIGHTS

Top-five draft prospect Colby McKercher raised eyebrows when he said at a press conference during the draft combine that he didn’t have a favourite AFL team anymore.

However, that is not to say that the 180cm Tasmanian midfielder does not watch much footy.

Quite the opposite is the case for the self-proclaimed “footy head”.

“I’ve been pretty busy with travelling this year so I’ve probably only watched probably three or four games (a week) but when I was playing footy at home or had a week off I’d probably watch nearly seven,” McKercher said.

“I kind of take bits out of Nick Dacos’ game, Zac Butters, Connor Rozee, Errol Gulden, Chad Warner – those kind of guys. They’re quite dynamic midfielders and I watch them quite closely.”

McKercher sat out testing at the national draft combine earlier this month due to minor foot injury, but clubs already knew just want an athlete he is with his speed and agility.

The left-footer has firmly sat as a top-five prospect since the start of the year given his athletic attributes, elite decision making and ability to be damaging inside and outside of the contest.

“Whoever gets their hands on him is going to have a beauty,” one recruiter said.

McKercher is believed to be firmly in the frame for North Melbourne, if the Kangaroos hold onto picks two and three in this year’s draft.

“I’m not too bothered about destinations or picks or anything like that,” McKercher said.

“I’m just going to go with the flow and keep training and wherever I end up, I end up. I’m going to be over the moon.”

Colby McKercher doesn’t support a single team but loves watching AFL footy. Picture: Michael Klein

How bad do you want him WCE?
Don't forget we hold picks 2 & 3.
If you deal with anyone else not only will you miss out on Harley, you'll miss Colby also.

 

[Sphynx]

I’d much rather Dawson than Zakostelsky.

ZZ’s athletic profile is good, but his footy fundamentals like kicking, handballing and decision making are terrible. Yes they can improve but what you are starting with as a base is so low. When he has any pressure on him it’s just dump kicks and handballs to no one. It takes so much to unteach those sorts of things.

Dawson’s biggest asset is that he id a competitor, love seeing that in the big men. Again it’s not something that you can develop in a player, you either have it or you don’t. The fact that he is so young too, is a big selling point. Tonnes of upside and he does all the basics so well for someone his size. Could see him developing into a Harris Andrews style key defender (although I think he prefers to play forward)

I've watched a fair bit of footage of ZZ.

I don't really see "it" tbh.

He's played most of his footy as an undersized ruck. He moves like a mobile ruck like Bailey Williams rather than a hyper athletic KPD.

He's going to be an extremely slow burn.

I think I'd rather others with the capital it will cost. He's probably a good selection for WCE, as he can play plenty of WAFL and learn off Barrass and McGovern in his first 2 years on a list.


I didn't really like Rawlings explanations around our ruck stocks, It really seems like either Clarko or the recruiting staff have gone cold on the ruck position in general. Rawlings has seemed to indicate that he's happy with Xerri, CCJ, Free and Biggie as break glass backup.

I think that's a massive mistake. Xerri is a backup AFL ruckman, at best imo. CCJ has played maybe 6 qtrs in his entire AFL career as a first ruck and Free has never played an AFL game.

There's 3 really excellent ruck prospects that will be likely available at our last pick. All with really elite athletic profiles for their size.

Edwards is 206cm with a 94cm running vertical and a 3.00 second 20m. That means he has close to the same running vertical reach as Nic Natanui with that height and that vertical combo.

His speed is then similar to Zane Duursma and Harley Reid.

I think we are insane to pass up all of Edwards, Green or Goad.

Now none of these will make a difference next year, but they will in 3-4 years when we are finals contenders.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

How bad do you want him WCE?
Don't forget we hold picks 2 & 3.
If you deal with anyone else not only will you miss out on Harley, you'll miss Colby also.

Considering they shot down the Hawks and that's the next team holding a pick after us, they know, they know.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I've watched a fair bit of footage of ZZ.

I don't really see "it" tbh.

He's played most of his footy as an undersized ruck. He moves like a mobile ruck like Bailey Williams rather than a hyper athletic KPD.

He's going to be an extremely slow burn.

I think I'd rather others with the capital it will cost. He's probably a good selection for WCE, as he can play plenty of WAFL and learn off Barrass and McGovern in his first 2 years on a list.


I didn't really like Rawlings explanations around our ruck stocks, It really seems like either Clarko or the recruiting staff have gone cold on the ruck position in general. Rawlings has seemed to indicate that he's happy with Xerri, CCJ, Free and Biggie as break glass backup.

I think that's a massive mistake. Xerri is a backup AFL ruckman, at best imo.

There's 3 really excellent ruck prospects that will be likely available at our last pick. All with really elite athletic profiles for their size.

Edwards is 206cm with a 94cm running vertical and a 3.00 second 20m. That means he has close to the same running vertical reach as Nic Natanui with that height and that vertical combo.

His speed is then similar to Zane Duursma and Harley Reid.

I think we are insane to pass up all of Edwards, Green or Goad.

I haven't seen heaps of ZZ, but in the footage I have seen I didn't see much that screamed out that he had AFL talent. Even though he is a good athlete, imo you very rarely see it (other than his leap in the ruck).

I totally agree about the ruck situation, X ain't it. CCJ won't get renewed once his current contract expires, Free is a bit of an ice berg and Biggie isn't a viable full time ruck. We'd be stupid to not take one of the developing rucks with out picks in the teens. Edwards and Goad particularly appealing for mine because of their athletic base.

In saying that, our key forward stocks are also dogshit, we really need to have more developing talls across every line on the list come the end of the draft period.

 

[giantroo]

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I was putting it in the other thread while you were putting it here:

Cal Twomey's October phantom is out. Just push our later picks out according to the academy picks and F/S

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking​

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his fourth Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2023 National Draft
www.afl.com.au

The final ranking will be in November ahead of the national draft.

A lingering knee injury from the end of Bendigo's season meant Reid didn't test at the Draft Combine but it didn't stop him from endearing himself further to clubs. Reid's interviews were well received and his popularity and presence within the pool shone through, all part of the overall package for the No.1 pick. Reid plays with a similar 'follow me' style – he breaks open games, wants the moment, takes on opponents, has physicality and kicks big goals. The hype has existed for a reason and he's handled it superbly through the year, with the midfielder/forward an ultra-exciting prospect.

It is hard to recall a key forward coming through the draft with the same attributes as Walter, whose fanatical chasing, tackling and pack-crashing will complement the Gold Coast forward line, where he is destined to end up through the club's Academy. A bid will come on Walter in the early selections, with the powerful key forward having dominated this season with the Suns' Academy and also for the Allies, who he spearheaded to their under-18 championship title. He marks well, collects the ball at ground level and is a threat via a number of different means.

Duursma was one of the few very best prospects in the land to test at the Draft Combine, having finished his season with Gippsland Power several weeks before. His standout performance was in the running vertical jump, where he came second with a 97cm leap. It is a skill that comes through in his game, with Duursma liking floating in for high marks and being hard to beat on the lead. The Power leader kicked 33 goals this season from 12 games, after booting 31 last year as a bottom-ager. He's all class, a beautiful finisher and a highlights reel that can impact games in a number of ways.

McKercher returned from a foot injury to play in Tasmania's preliminary final defeat to the Eastern Ranges at the end of the Coates Talent League after some time out with a foot injury, with the gun midfielder gathering 20 disposals and kicking a goal. He didn't complete Combine testing because of the foot injury, but recruiters are well aware of his skillset, with the classy and speedy left-footer having a brilliant season that saw him be a joint winner of the Morrish Medal after averaging 29 disposals and a goal for the Devils. A game-changer through the midfield who has confidence in his style.

Across his different teams this year – Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro, AFL Academy and Caulfield Grammar – Watson kicked more than 70 goals, a phenomenal return whichever way you slice it for a small forward. The exciting talent can produce moments from nothing, kick goals from anywhere and light up a game with his wizardry inside 50, but spent a chunk of the end of the year playing on the wing and further up the ground. Watson hurt his ankle in Eastern's Grand Final defeat, where he had 20 disposals and a goal, and had his leg in a moonboot at the Combine so did not take part in the testing.

Curtin missed testing at the Draft Combine with a hamstring strain he suffered in Claremont's colts Grand Final win. In that game, he gathered 23 disposals and five marks, having returned to under-18 level following a run of six straight appearances in the club's senior WAFL side. The left-footer is a versatile tall who has shown through the year he can play as a key back and forward and even as a powerful midfielder.

Another top prospect who sat out the Combine, Sanders did not test due to a hip issue. It will have no impact on his draft placing, having shown throughout the whole year his incredible consistency and production as a midfielder in the group. Sanders capped his season with 25 disposals and four clearances in Sandringham's Grand Final win over the Eastern Ranges, when he had some key moments as he always does. Sanders averaged 31 disposals at that level to go with his Larke Medal in the under-18 carnival in a complete campaign.

Caddy's movement for a player his size was on show at the Combine, when he finished in the top 10 for the agility test (completing it in 8.331 seconds). He was one of only two key position players in that ranking. The strong marking tall forward had an exciting season amid some injury and illness interruptions, kicking 25 goals in nine games for the Northern Knights. He had some dominant games where he was unstoppable in the air and dangerous in a number of ways, while also playing some midfield time at stages as well.

A ‘wow' moment came early in the Draft Combine, when Read completed the 2km time trial in 5:56 minutes, an eye-catching run for a player of his size and skills. It highlighted what recruiters have seen all year from Read – he has midfield traits but is 200cm, he can run and run but also kick the ball well and be a marking forward target when not in the ruck. The hype and interest in Read would be at another level if he wasn't tied to Gold Coast through its Academy, with an early bid expected.

The tall defender played just about everywhere through this season, including spots in the midfield and forward line, but he will be selected as a marking, intercepting backman who can read the play and control a game from the back half. He did that through the Allies' national carnival, where he was a big force to their success. O'Sullivan finished his season with the Murray Bushrangers and then competed in the Draft Combine, where he came eighth in the 2km time trial, running 6:11 minutes.

Windsor had already been creeping up draft boards but he solidified his place as a potential pick right around the top 10 with his starring performances at the Draft Combine. The Eastern Ranges' runner came third in the 20-metre sprint (2.916 seconds) and placed in the top 10 for the standing vertical jump (73cm) and running vertical jump (92cm) events as well, showing his mix of athleticism and pure speed. The polished goalkicking midfielder also ran 6:35 minutes in the 2km time trial.

A hamstring strain stopped Leake from testing at the Draft Combine. The versatile Tasmanian has been a surprise packet across the year and shown he can play in a range of different spots and make an impact. He was a huge factor in Tasmania's push to the Coates Talent League preliminary final and was also named an All-Australian after the Allies' title win. Kicked five goals late in the season with the Devils and has spring in his legs to fly for marks but can also set up the play across half-back.

Croft has committed officially to joining the Western Bulldogs as a father-son selection, which is a big factor in the Dogs outbidding rivals to get a hold of Gold Coast's No.5 pick. It means they will get a top selection in before the bid comes for Croft, a tall and athletic forward who showed some real promise through the year. At his size, Croft has shown he can get a mark on the lead and convert his shots and he will be given time to develop at the Dogs. He finished fourth overall in the Combine's 2km time trial with a 6:05 minute run.

It was a consistent season from Rogers, which is what you come to expect from how the Gold Coast Academy talent plays his footy. A smaller midfielder who likely starts as a small forward at AFL level, Rogers tackles hard, works up and down the ground and is clean with the ball. He played some VFL games with the Suns late in the year after being named an All-Australian for his efforts at the under-18 championships.

Wilson was a standout of the Draft Combine testing across a range of events, showing his genuine upside with those traits. He came second overall in the 2km time trial (running 5:52 minutes), finished in the top 10 for the agility (8.263 seconds) and the standing vertical jump (76cm) and won the running vertical jump test (98cm). It showed what recruiters have seen from him throughout the year in his performances as a lively midfielder/forward.

Recruiters were impressed by Tholstrup's season, particularly his commitment to his role at senior level for Subiaco in their forward line. The forward/midfielder enjoyed a strong carnival for Western Australia and plays with some physicality and strength. He matched it with senior opposition through the season and will do the same early in his AFL career.

Collard's end to the season – back-to-back hauls of five goals in Subiaco's colts finals – as well as his excellent testing at the Draft Combine has pushed him up the Form Guide. The exciting forward can make something from nothing and kick goals, having booted 32 majors from 11 games at colts level this season. He then was the quickest in the agility test at the Combine (8.157 seconds), was fourth in the 20-metre sprint (2.92 seconds) and also ran the 2km time trial in 6:32 minutes to show his all-round athleticism and spark.

Hardeman showed he has a strong pace and endurance blend at the Combine, running a three-second 20-metre sprint and a 6:35 minute 2km time trial. The attacking half-back had a consistent season at different levels and captained Western Australia at the under-18 carnival. He can rebound and likes to create from defence.

It was a frustrating second half of the season for McCabe, who developed a stress injury in his foot after the national carnival. He spent some time on the sidelines before returning in Central District's under-18s finals series. However, after returning, he dealt with some groin and adductor soreness that has made for a management program in recent weeks, including sitting out testing at the Combine. The intercepting tall defender is tied to Hawthorn as a father-son, where his dad Luke played and is now a board member.

It was an impressive 2km time trial from the tall defender at the Combine, with Murphy completing it in 6:18 minutes. Murphy is a key back who can mark and has confidence in the air and has also played as a pinch-hitting ruck at different stages through his campaign. The left-footer makes good decisions with the ball and was a key part of Vic Metro's defence at the carnival.

Clubs were impressed by DeMattia at the Combine, not only his testing resume (he finished in the top 10 for the 20-metre sprint with a dash of 2.996 seconds) but also his interviews. The Vic Country co-captain has played a number of different spots through the year – some see him as a midfielder, others view him as a small back at the next level.

Roberts was rapt with his 2km time trial result at the Combine, running 6:08 minutes to finish in seventh position. It showed his strong endurance base, with the left-footed half-back a player who sizes up his opportunities in defence and likes to take the game on. He directs traffic from half-back and was a premiership player with the Sandringham Dragons last year and this season, as well as claiming Haileybury College's best and fairest in a flag year.

Jiath didn't get enough nominations to be in the initial national Draft Combine list but if it had been another month he would have been selected, given the exciting half-back's finish to the season. He did complete testing for the state screening though, when he ran 6:32 minutes for the 2km time trial. The younger brother of Hawthorn's Changkuoth, Jiath is also Next Generation Academy listed for the Hawks but is expected to be selected before they get access to him at No.40 onwards. A marking interceptor in the back half who streams forward.

Another player who tested in the state screening but looks likely to be a top 30 draft consideration for clubs. The 191cm midfielder ticks a few boxes for clubs: his size is an asset in how he plays, he has spent time across half-back as well, he has a good aerobic base (6:24 minutes in the 2km time trial) and he has kept on improving as the season wore on. His dash from the middle for Sandringham in its run to the premiership caught the eye of scouts.

Green is one of three rucks all similarly rated in terms of their long-term status, but all different. Green rose to be among the best big men in his crop with a solid season for the Knights and Vic Metro, including some impressive games in the Coates Talent League later in the year. He completed the 2km time trial in 6:34 minutes at the Combine, ranking him alongside many of the midfield options as well.

It was an impressive testing display from Edwards at the Combine, where he finished in the top five for the standing vertical jump (78cm) and running vertical jump (94cm), as well as doing the 20-metre sprint in 3.0 seconds. Edwards is tied to Fremantle under the NGA program but the Dockers will only get access to matching a bid for him if he gets past the first 40 selections.

The younger brother of Essendon's Zach is mainly positioned at the other end of the field to his backman sibling, with Archer a key forward who can go into the ruck. His kicking skills are excellent for a player his size and although he didn't have a monster patch of form through the year, he remains a forward/ruck option for clubs searching for players to fill that valuable role.

Stevens is a unique player in the pool given his mature frame but his outstanding output in the second half of the season in particular. The midfielder, who captained the AFL Academy earlier this year, came back from a knee reconstruction he underwent in 2022 and started this year across half-back. But he really got going as an inside midfield and clearance specialist for the Rebels and also with Geelong's VFL team, where he impressed, including having 29 disposals against Collingwood.

Gothard has some real pizzazz about his game. As a small forward he can pop up and hit the scoreboard, he reads the game well and he is confident around goal. He was a standout at the Combine testing, running the 20-metre sprint in 2.963 seconds and then finishing second in the standing vertical jump (78cm) and clubs like his ability to influence inside 50 without amassing big numbers of the ball.

It is hard to know where ruckmen will actually get picked in the draft by clubs given they are often a needs dependant selection, but Goad is the third ruckman in this ranking based on his upside. The South Australian big man is fast – he clocked 2.92 seconds earlier in the year at his state testing over 20 metres and did 2.96 seconds at the Combine this month. He was also in the top 10 for the standing vertical jump. The former basketballer has all the athletic attributes to be taking the eye of recruiters.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

If Darcy Wilson goes at 15 we should be all over him. Another developing hard runner would be amazing.

I really rate Windsor, but I don't see any scenario where he gets picked before Wilson.

I also don't understand the love for Charlie Edwards, I don't think his game transitions well into the AFL, he isn't a big strong bash and crash inside mid and he isn't all that damaging on the outside, his height is his point of difference but fellow tall mids Clay Hall and Joel Freijah are far superior to him and have better athletic profiles.

I know they all can't fit, but it's interesting that in his top 30 he doesn't have the following players:

Joel Freijah, Clay Hall, Arie Schoemaker, Angus Hastie, Jack Delean, or Lual Luamon

 

[Farthers]

If Darcy Wilson goes at 15 we should be all over him. Another developing hard runner would be amazing.

I really rate Windsor, but I don't see any scenario where he gets picked before Wilson.

I also don't understand the love for Charlie Edwards, I don't think his game transitions well into the AFL, he isn't a big strong bash and crash inside mid and he isn't all that damaging on the outside, his height is his point of difference but fellow tall mids Clay Hall and Joel Freijah are far superior to him and have better athletic profiles.

I know they all can't fit, but it's interesting that in his top 30 he doesn't have the following players:

Joel Freijah, Clay Hall, Arie Schoemaker, Angus Hastie, Jack Delean, or Lual Luamon

Our pick 15 will be 19 based on that order.

 

[TheNostradamusDesciple]

Any appetite out there for a gathering at Brew Pub in Clifton Hill for draft night? Beers at happy hour prices and door prizes, would be out the back in the Roo Room? Just an idea at this stage, if it’s going ahead I’ll post info in the Clifton Hill Roo Pub Thread

The Nostradamus and I are really keen!

 

[The_General#1]

I've watched a fair bit of footage of ZZ.

I don't really see "it" tbh.

He's played most of his footy as an undersized ruck. He moves like a mobile ruck like Bailey Williams rather than a hyper athletic KPD.

He's going to be an extremely slow burn.

I think I'd rather others with the capital it will cost. He's probably a good selection for WCE, as he can play plenty of WAFL and learn off Barrass and McGovern in his first 2 years on a list.


I didn't really like Rawlings explanations around our ruck stocks, It really seems like either Clarko or the recruiting staff have gone cold on the ruck position in general. Rawlings has seemed to indicate that he's happy with Xerri, CCJ, Free and Biggie as break glass backup.

I think that's a massive mistake. Xerri is a backup AFL ruckman, at best imo. CCJ has played maybe 6 qtrs in his entire AFL career as a first ruck and Free has never played an AFL game.

There's 3 really excellent ruck prospects that will be likely available at our last pick. All with really elite athletic profiles for their size.

Edwards is 206cm with a 94cm running vertical and a 3.00 second 20m. That means he has close to the same running vertical reach as Nic Natanui with that height and that vertical combo.

His speed is then similar to Zane Duursma and Harley Reid.

I think we are insane to pass up all of Edwards, Green or Goad.

Now none of these will make a difference next year, but they will in 3-4 years when we are finals contenders.

Once again how the media hype tries to influence the draft. The media and Twomey gets on someone then 99% start talking about the player like they’ve seen heaps of footage and back the hype. I agree with Sphynx I said 3 or 4 weeks ago he was undersized and had no real weapons that I have seen. Having said this no doubt the kid has got some upside but pls, let’s be real folks. We should start hype on here about a backend draft prospect and the media will probably jump on it. Tew is another one. If his brother wasn’t CJ he would not be in the top 50.

 

[The_General#1]

If Darcy Wilson goes at 15 we should be all over him. Another developing hard runner would be amazing.

I really rate Windsor, but I don't see any scenario where he gets picked before Wilson.

I also don't understand the love for Charlie Edwards, I don't think his game transitions well into the AFL, he isn't a big strong bash and crash inside mid and he isn't all that damaging on the outside, his height is his point of difference but fellow tall mids Clay Hall and Joel Freijah are far superior to him and have better athletic profiles.

I know they all can't fit, but it's interesting that in his top 30 he doesn't have the following players:

Joel Freijah, Clay Hall, Arie Schoemaker, Angus Hastie, Jack Delean, or Lual Luamon

I reckon Twomey is on the mark with the top 15 but after that it’s a raffle. After this I would question his opinion.

 

[ToxicMegaPunts]

The Nostradamus and I are really keen!

You two can have yourselves a playdate.

 

[Passmore]

I reckon Twomey is on the mark with the top 15 but after that it’s a raffle. After this I would question his opinion.

It'd be less Twomey's actual opinion and moreso information he's getting in the industry.

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