Discussion Saints drinks

[George]

Sometimes I hope u get knocked the * out in your fights lol

Gonna have to catch me first

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Hey all,
I can tidy up a bunch of this discussion on making booze as I’m the head distiller for a pretty well known brand and have been doing it for 15+ years.

Firstly, DON’T DISTIL FERMENTED FRUIT JUICE!!!!! Anything with pectin in it produces lots of methanol and it’s how people die or go blind. Best case you end up with an awful hangover. They often also have sulphur to preserve them that can make some people pretty sick when you do your first cut as well.


Buying 3rd party alcohol to make gin is standard practice throughout the industry both domesticity and internationally. Basically it costs lots of money to ferment and distill the spirit until it’s pretty much neutral in flavour so almost everyone buys it in. You can then put the neutral spirit into your still and add botanicals into either the pot or basket to get the flavour to form the gin.

There are definitely people out there adding essences to neutral spirit without them doing a distillation but their product generally sucks. They tend to taste alcoholy if that makes sense.

Generally the regulation in Australia are pretty good without being overly tight in my opinion for gin, rum and whisky. Whisky is the tightest, rum a little looser and gin probably need to be tightened.
I think they all become tighter over the next decade or so, but personally I don’t think that’s a good thing (devils in the detail and won’t lead to better outcomes for consumers. Don’t ask, it’s complex).

Anyway, good booze is the stuff that makes you happy!

Thanks for the info. So Gin basically skips the fermentation process?
And no i was not going to drink or distil fermented fruit juice, but i know someone who drinks fermented fruit juice and i doubt i can change their mind.

 

[WhiskySaint]

Thanks for the info. So Gin basically skips the fermentation process?
And no i was not going to drink or distil fermented fruit juice, but i know someone who drinks fermented fruit juice and i doubt i can change their mind

All alcohol for drinking comes from fermentation and all spirits from fermentation then distillation. So gin is still fermented and distilled…. Maybe the best way to think about it is that alcohol for the “gin base spirit” is outsourced to mega distillery plants that can do it to a high standard and very cheaply.

There are heaps of these alcohol products making ethanol for a variety of industries. Common in Australia is spirit made from grapes and sugarcane.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

All alcohol for drinking comes from fermentation and all spirits from fermentation then distillation. So gin is still fermented and distilled…. Maybe the best way to think about it is that alcohol for the “gin base spirit” is outsourced to mega distillery plants that can do it to a high standard and very cheaply.

There are heaps of these alcohol products making ethanol for a variety of industries. Common in Australia is spirit made from grapes and sugarcane.

Sorry I meant that Gin producers don't need to ferment anything. So i guess that's a yes.
So they have this high grade alcohol, do they then just expose it to the items for infusion, and distill it again?

 

[WhiskySaint]

Sorry I meant that Gin producers don't need to ferment anything. So i guess that's a yes.
So they have this high grade alcohol, do they then just expose it to the items for infusion, and distill it again?

There are two ways it’s done…. Let’s say a proper way and not.

The not proper way: they buy in flavours from flavour house (companies that make flavours for food and bev) and add them to the base spirit. There is no distillation in this method. It’s more common then you’d like to think and not just in Aus but internationally and at all levels, brands big and small.

The proper way involves doing actual distillation to impart the botanical flavours into the gin. You can think of a still as a big kettle where you capture, cool and collect the vapour. If you put botanicals either in the liquid at the bottom or let the vapour flow past them then the oils in the botanicals get vaporised as well.

That’s kinda how it works if that makes sense. Generally that’s why things with oil like citrus distill so well.

Bit of extra info….. you can make gin properly (aka with distillation) with two methods. Most common is call “single shot” where all the botanicals are put into the still together and out comes the compete gin. The other is called “compound” where each botanical is distilled separately into essences and then blended together to form the gin.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Sipping an ice cold DC, a little treat after a large week

 

[Mowman]

Sipping an ice cold DC, a little treat after a large week

 

[George]

Haven't drank for 11 weeks but just clocked off for the year and it's a ripper day so got a case of Budvar

 

[George]

I know, I know. I'm fresh as ****

 

[Dard Ball Get]

I know, I know. I'm fresh as *



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Big sauce!

 

[George]

Big sauce!

fEeLiNg MySeLf

 

[Dard Ball Get]

fEeLiNg MySeLf

Alexander The Great had red hair too

 

[George]

Alexander The Great had red hair too

I'm actually light brown but if I grow it the quarter Scot comes out and it goes a bit auburn. Hate it tbh but the fade makes me cum

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Had some of this gear in Port Macquarie the other night $250 a shot. Want all that impressed.
Not trying to big note myself. My mate paid. He can afford it.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

I'm actually light brown but if I grow it the quarter Scot comes out and it goes a bit auburn. Hate it tbh but the fade makes me cum

So what you’re saying is, you have ginger pubes.

 

[George]

So what you’re saying is, you have ginger pubes.

No they are black

 

[George]

Also tormenting the ex by ignoring her and posting random shit on Insta. It's unreal

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Had some of this gear in Port Macquarie the other night $250 a shot. Want all that impressed.
Not trying to big note myself. My mate paid. He can afford it.


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Always found it a law of diminishing returns with high end alcohol. Things can only taste so good lol

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Nice contrast

 

[George]

I'm doing it to torment the ex. ****in making the missus have a real good cackle (I've got a good giggle going )

 

[Mowman]

I know, I know. I'm fresh as *



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upside down head

 

[Mowman]

Also tormenting the ex by ignoring her and posting random s**t on Insta. It's unreal

Thinking a real lack of chin if there was no whiskers

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Just on the plane flying home to Isa from Bris and someone’s dropped their guts. It’s like one of those demons who should be sitting out on the wing.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

There was a Chinese dude at Rocky airport this morning sitting there no shoes cross legged and speaking lingo but wearing a Saints cap.
Instant brotherhood.

 

[gringo2011]

Big sauce!

The ginger Greek, Spiros Sheeran.