Media Carlton in the Media (articles, podcasts etc) - Part IV

[BlueGum]

I'm always 50/50 on coaches getting contract extensions early. Voss has been very good and things look good but he isn't going anywhere and why is there an issue waiting until later?

Totally on board with an extension. Signals that we are having a crack for multiple years and we are confident of the path we are on. Have no doubt that discussions will include areas to improve across the footy department.

Voss knows what it takes.

 

[Stamos]

I'm always 50/50 on coaches getting contract extensions early. Voss has been very good and things look good but he isn't going anywhere and why is there an issue waiting until later?

I don't think re-signing less than 10 months before the expiry of the contract is "early".
You show support, create stability, eliminate any unnecessary media noise.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Blues set to extend Michael Voss' contract heading into 2024 AFL season

Michael Voss is set to be rewarded with a new contract in the coming weeks.

www.sen.com.au

There’s no need to rush into this. I would hold off until the end of 2024.

Voss isn’t in demand and 12 weeks of good football isn’t deserving of an extension. That is only our list achieving it’s potential.

10 year extension when he gets us 17.

 

[JuddgementDay]

I'm always 50/50 on coaches getting contract extensions early. Voss has been very good and things look good but he isn't going anywhere and why is there an issue waiting until later?

I don't agree...

If Voss needs to talk to his players and say something akin to: we are in this together - stay with the club, stay with me - it's very hard to do so with sincerity if your own contract has not been signed beyond 2024.

Also, it kills unwanted/ unnecessary speculations

So, this contract extension is a necessity to me.

 

[Soapy V]

I don't agree...

If Voss needs to talk to his players and say something akin to: we are in this together - stay with the club, stay with me - it's very hard to do so with sincerity if your own contract has not been signed beyond 2024.

Also, it kills unwanted/ unnecessary speculations

So, this contract extension is a necessity to me.

I see it differently but not a big issue

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I don't agree...

If Voss needs to talk to his players and say something akin to: we are in this together - stay with the club, stay with me - it's very hard to do so with sincerity if your own contract has not been signed beyond 2024.

Also, it kills unwanted/ unnecessary speculations

So, this contract extension is a necessity to me.

Nothing wrong with having rolling 2 year extensions..

It's not the same situation at all when we gave Pagan that ridiculous 5 year extension back in 2007 after we won the Wizard Cup and then sacked him months later..

Stability and continuity as a club is important, and important for Voss to have some kind of job security going forwards too.

Very comfortable, if not happy at this decision.

 

[Blue Ratts]

https://archive.md/erSTj

Carlton 2024 preview: Three new names to power Blues to a premiership​

 

[luke livingston seagull]

https://archive.md/erSTj

Carlton 2024 preview: Three new names to power Blues to a premiership​

Lost me at L. Young in the best 22.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

I don't agree...

If Voss needs to talk to his players and say something akin to: we are in this together - stay with the club, stay with me - it's very hard to do so with sincerity if your own contract has not been signed beyond 2024.

Also, it kills unwanted/ unnecessary speculations

So, this contract extension is a necessity to me.

I'm happy either way.
Like Soapy mentioned, the chances of Voss walking away whilst our list is so strong and a top 4 finish is expected would be close to zero.

 

[Aphrodite]

It's not about luck: Monahan embracing life in Blue

Rob Monahan is leaving nothing to chance as he embarks on a new career.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[My Hat]

A coach in the last year of his contract is always going to draw media attention. Shutting that down with a modest extension just seems like common sense.

Honestly think the best approach is what the club did with Bolton: put the coach on staff. Fixed terms are pretty much meaningless for head coaches nowadays. You're coach until you're not, at which point the club will fire you, contract or no contract. In the past the contract length would affect the payout amount, but these days that's limited to six months (I think?) and on the coaches' side you can always just quit if you want (e.g. Hardwick) so the contract length is effectively irrelevant for both parties.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

It's not about luck: Monahan embracing life in Blue

Rob Monahan is leaving nothing to chance as he embarks on a new career.

www.carltonfc.com.au

New job alert!

- Translation Assistant Specialist -

Position Description
~ Providing clarity on what Rob Monahan is saying so we can gain a better understanding


What I gathered from his interview:

• * suck
• we will win the premiership

 

[RPCB]

It's not about luck: Monahan embracing life in Blue

Rob Monahan is leaving nothing to chance as he embarks on a new career.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Everytime I read about Rob, I am saddened by the reminder that we won’t see Matt Duffy this year.

 

[thylacine60]

Totally on board with an extension. Signals that we are having a crack for multiple years and we are confident of the path we are on. Have no doubt that discussions will include areas to improve across the footy department.

Voss knowshas what it takes.

 

[branedotorg]

A coach in the last year of his contract is always going to draw media attention. Shutting that down with a modest extension just seems like common sense.

Honestly think the best approach is what the club did with Bolton: put the coach on staff. Fixed terms are pretty much meaningless for head coaches nowadays. You're coach until you're not, at which point the club will fire you, contract or no contract. In the past the contract length would affect the payout amount, but these days that's limited to six months (I think?) and on the coaches' side you can always just quit if you want (e.g. Hardwick) so the contract length is effectively irrelevant for both parties.

Only for clubs on AFL assistance, or if a clause in the contract exists to that effect.

It was also extended to a minimum 12 months when Dillon took over as AFL head.

 

[JustaBattler]

he looks like a beautiful natural kick of the football and has the build to go with a contested game - tick.

 

[My Hat]

Only for clubs on AFL assistance, or if a clause in the contract exists to that effect.

It was also extended to a minimum 12 months when Dillon took over as AFL head.

Thanks brane, wasn't aware of those details.

I wonder how AFL assistance is defined for these purposes. Found an article that said in 2023 only 4 clubs received the minimum base amount from the AFL (Richmond, Hawthorn, Collingwood, West Coast) which seems to suggest that the other 14 clubs all received some degree of assistance. And of course funding can change from one year to the next, which I suppose means a coach's multi-year contract can move in and out of this rule over time.

 

[Numero 31]

I think Port Adelaide last year suffered from uncertainty and speculation in the way they approached it. Giving Voss an extra 2 years now before the season has even started should create a stable and secure working environment. I am all for it

Lets be honest, 2023 was the best finish we have had in a very long time and a 2 year extension is hardly locking us into anything seriously long term.

I am feeling quietly confident and upbeat about our prospects ...

 

[Arr0w]

Great move by the club to extend Voss, hopefully it's done before the start of the season

 

[branedotorg]

Thanks brane, wasn't aware of those details.

I wonder how AFL assistance is defined for these purposes. Found an article that said in 2023 only 4 clubs received the minimum base amount from the AFL (Richmond, Hawthorn, Collingwood, West Coast) which seems to suggest that the other 14 clubs all received some degree of assistance. And of course funding can change from one year to the next, which I suppose means a coach's multi-year contract can move in and out of this rule over time.

i think it's the ones at the bottom of the financial table, GC, GWS, Saints (although improving) WB and maybe Melbourne. Dew & Ratten were the only ones i know of to have the six month clause invoked an particularly how the saints gave a huge extension and then sacked him before the extension even started is a big part of why the minimum was lifted to 12 months.

 

[kreuze_missile]

Herald Sun right now. Anyone got the paywall skipper?

 

[BlueGum]

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Herald Sun right now. Anyone got the paywall skipper?

See above Media - Carlton in the Media (articles, podcasts etc) - Part IV

 

[Soapy V]

he looks like a beautiful natural kick of the football and has the build to go with a contested game - tick.

Won't surprise me to see him play at some time this year. He is heck of an athlete and tough.

Be interesting to see where he plays? Probably start of HB to learn the game but I can see him becoming a winger or on baller over time

 

[teagueyubeauty]

i think it's the ones at the bottom of the financial table, GC, GWS, Saints (although improving) WB and maybe Melbourne. Dew & Ratten were the only ones i know of to have the six month clause invoked an particularly how the saints gave a huge extension and then sacked him before the extension even started is a big part of why the minimum was lifted to 12 months.

Any club that has whored themselves out for special AFL financial help have that clause


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[thylacine60]

that'd be us no doubt........