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True that and I'm not sure exactly how misinformed, ignorant, or just plain dumb**** stupid you have to be to not know that muscle weighs more than fat. So if a player comes back from break completely ripped and having packed on muscle, he's going to be heavier than someone who porked out and got on the piss the whole time.
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I appreciate the report.Much better session today. Absolute scorcher out there, lot of smiles when the final whistle went. 1st years absent.
Seems to be a heavy focus on repeat running, lots of encouragement from the group getting everyone through each end. Biggie was the most vocal during the repeat sprints towards the end.
Won’t go through every drill, I don’t want to upset anyone again.
Watched some guys more than others today, few bits:
Hansen Jnr: Fitter, pushed himself through all the last few repeat 100m got a lot of encouragement from everyone. His ball use is excellent, lot of the early transition drills he was nailing teammates on the chest short and long range.
Comben: Much more involved today, looks in good shape and was running well. Done some one on one defending stuff with Corr and a coach to finish his day. Nice kick coming out of defence btw, he’s atleast got that over McKay.
Phillips: Been a critic but he’ll have a big year if he can get through the pre season unscathed. Looks in terrific shape, running well and involved in everything when they ran set plays.
LDU: Sublime, don’t need to say more. Picture of an athlete.
Fisher: Has brought alot of personality to the group already. Was on the end of some jokes/sledging from the rest of the group.
K.Dawson: probably up there with my pick of the bunch at the end of every session I’ve been to. Leads the way in a lot of the repeat running.
Thomas, Logue, Corr + a few other injured lads all participated in the warmup at the start. Left for the gym after that and then returned to run/walk laps. Logue looks good was running and kicking with ease, not sure if ahead of schedule but done quite a bit.
Feel free to ask about anyone else, apologise if it came across as negative the other day. Wasn’t the intention.
Edit: one I forgot again, Larkey was there today. Involved in the early drills then ran some laps and went in early.
Yes the sessions I've been to, Kallan Dawson has shown that he might yet have a say in the makeup of the defense prior to Logue's return.
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This can only be a good omen for the season…
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When has that ever stopped people?
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Trust the AFL knows how heavy they are. They just don't want you to know it
Cool change was nice; lasted 6 hours
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Next we'll be ripping out the urinals.
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This is all my personal opinion combined with the little tid-bits of info that I’ve been privy to. I won’t grade the new draftees as that’s a bit unfair considering they came to the party late.
Pre-season grades so far :
1. Hugh Greenwood - B - Providing leadership and guidance to the younger brigade
2. Jaiydn Stephenson - B - Not too bad, but nothing outstanding.
3. Harry Sheezel - A+ - Professionalism is through the roof. Taking everything to another level.
4. Aidan Corr - D - Long term injury through no fault of his own.
5. Curtis Taylor - F - Hasn’t improved strength, despite being told that it had to be a focus this off season.
6. George Wardlaw - A - Still being managed a bit but no hiccups is a huge positive.
7. Zane Duursma - N/A - Showing show elite signs particularly with his contested marking.
8. Bailey Scott - A - ultimate professional, who’s leadership is improving every year.
9. Luke Davies-Uniate - A - few minor niggles, but has improved his strength and running metrics considerably.
10. Colby McKercher - N/A - expect him to play plenty of senior footy early.
11. Luke McDonald - F - Pre-season severely impacted by hamstring surgery.
12. Jy Simpkin - A+ - Ultimate professional who continues to improve his running capacity and conditioning.
13. Darcy Tucker - A+ - See above.
14. Liam Shiels - A - Still involved in everything, completing all training to a high level. Providing a tonne of extra work developing and helping the youngsters.
15. Dylan Stephens - A - leading from the front and training like he has a point to prove.
16. Zac Fisher - C - didn’t come back in the best condition but has been training well since returning.
17. Riley Hardeman - N/A - plenty to like about his athleticism, leadership and willingness to learn.
18. Wil Dawson - N/A - competitive beast who has been doing everything he can to improve.
19. Griffin Logue - B - Progressing well from his ACL rehab. Well ahead of schedule which is a big win.
20. Nick Larkey - B - Added a few kilo’s but has had a few minor niggles that have limited parts of his pre-season.
21. Callum Coleman-Jones - D - limited pre-season due to concussion sustained late last year. Progressing well now.
22. Taylor Goad - N/A - Showing signs of his athleticism, but a long way to go with his tank and game sense (which is all to be expected)
24. Tom Powell - B - first injury free preseason is a huge win. Improved running capacity, but isn’t standing out like he should be.
25. Paul Curtis - B - improved running capacity.
26. Tarryn Thomas - C - has stayed out of trouble off field which is a huge positive but pre season has been impacted by a few injuries.
27. Miller Bergman - B - Tracking along nicely, but still needs to add more weight to his frame.
28. Bigoa Nyoun - B - Showing some signs, but needs to add some kg’s.
29. Will Phillips - A - First full pre season and it’s really showing. Improved running capacity and getting really involved with training.
30. Charlie Comben - B - Happy with how he is learning his defensive craft. Still a bit limited with his training due to his injuries.
31. Josh Goater - B - heavily involved in training but his tank remains the biggest thing holding him back.
32. Toby Pink - N/A - Showing plenty of signs.
33. Brayden George - C - Conditioning has improved considerably, would be rated far better if it wasn’t for his elbow injury.
34. Jackson Archer - F - Hardly trained and being held back due to groin injury.
35. Charlie Lazzaro - A - ultimate professional who continues to improve every measurable metric. Leaving no stones unturned.
37. Cooper Harvey - D - Limited training due to shoulder injury.
38. Tristan Xerri - A+ - Leading the way, added kg’s and has improved his running capacity. Showing leadership on the track.
39. Finbar Maley - N/A - Raw, but is showing plenty of signs and justification as to why we picked him up.
40. Eddie Ford - B - Was tracking along beautifully until he sustained that ankle injury.
41. Blake Drury - C+ - was tracking along really well but has had to be held back due to a couple of minor niggles.
42. Kallan Dawson - A - Extra gym sessions and spending heaps of time with the development team. Noticeable improvement on the track.
44. Cam Zurhaar - A+ - Career best shape, lost weight, added strength and conditioning. More professional and showing more leadership around the club.
45. Hamish Free - D - Still hampered/limited by his shoulder reco.
46. Robert Hansen Jnr - B - conditioning and frame has improved considerably along with his professionalism.
Pre-season grades so far :
1. Hugh Greenwood - B - Providing leadership and guidance to the younger brigade
2. Jaiydn Stephenson - B - Not too bad, but nothing outstanding.
3. Harry Sheezel - A+ - Professionalism is through the roof. Taking everything to another level.
4. Aidan Corr - D - Long term injury through no fault of his own.
5. Curtis Taylor - F - Hasn’t improved strength, despite being told that it had to be a focus this off season.
6. George Wardlaw - A - Still being managed a bit but no hiccups is a huge positive.
7. Zane Duursma - N/A - Showing show elite signs particularly with his contested marking.
8. Bailey Scott - A - ultimate professional, who’s leadership is improving every year.
9. Luke Davies-Uniate - A - few minor niggles, but has improved his strength and running metrics considerably.
10. Colby McKercher - N/A - expect him to play plenty of senior footy early.
11. Luke McDonald - F - Pre-season severely impacted by hamstring surgery.
12. Jy Simpkin - A+ - Ultimate professional who continues to improve his running capacity and conditioning.
13. Darcy Tucker - A+ - See above.
14. Liam Shiels - A - Still involved in everything, completing all training to a high level. Providing a tonne of extra work developing and helping the youngsters.
15. Dylan Stephens - A - leading from the front and training like he has a point to prove.
16. Zac Fisher - C - didn’t come back in the best condition but has been training well since returning.
17. Riley Hardeman - N/A - plenty to like about his athleticism, leadership and willingness to learn.
18. Wil Dawson - N/A - competitive beast who has been doing everything he can to improve.
19. Griffin Logue - B - Progressing well from his ACL rehab. Well ahead of schedule which is a big win.
20. Nick Larkey - B - Added a few kilo’s but has had a few minor niggles that have limited parts of his pre-season.
21. Callum Coleman-Jones - D - limited pre-season due to concussion sustained late last year. Progressing well now.
22. Taylor Goad - N/A - Showing signs of his athleticism, but a long way to go with his tank and game sense (which is all to be expected)
24. Tom Powell - B - first injury free preseason is a huge win. Improved running capacity, but isn’t standing out like he should be.
25. Paul Curtis - B - improved running capacity.
26. Tarryn Thomas - C - has stayed out of trouble off field which is a huge positive but pre season has been impacted by a few injuries.
27. Miller Bergman - B - Tracking along nicely, but still needs to add more weight to his frame.
28. Bigoa Nyoun - B - Showing some signs, but needs to add some kg’s.
29. Will Phillips - A - First full pre season and it’s really showing. Improved running capacity and getting really involved with training.
30. Charlie Comben - B - Happy with how he is learning his defensive craft. Still a bit limited with his training due to his injuries.
31. Josh Goater - B - heavily involved in training but his tank remains the biggest thing holding him back.
32. Toby Pink - N/A - Showing plenty of signs.
33. Brayden George - C - Conditioning has improved considerably, would be rated far better if it wasn’t for his elbow injury.
34. Jackson Archer - F - Hardly trained and being held back due to groin injury.
35. Charlie Lazzaro - A - ultimate professional who continues to improve every measurable metric. Leaving no stones unturned.
37. Cooper Harvey - D - Limited training due to shoulder injury.
38. Tristan Xerri - A+ - Leading the way, added kg’s and has improved his running capacity. Showing leadership on the track.
39. Finbar Maley - N/A - Raw, but is showing plenty of signs and justification as to why we picked him up.
40. Eddie Ford - B - Was tracking along beautifully until he sustained that ankle injury.
41. Blake Drury - C+ - was tracking along really well but has had to be held back due to a couple of minor niggles.
42. Kallan Dawson - A - Extra gym sessions and spending heaps of time with the development team. Noticeable improvement on the track.
44. Cam Zurhaar - A+ - Career best shape, lost weight, added strength and conditioning. More professional and showing more leadership around the club.
45. Hamish Free - D - Still hampered/limited by his shoulder reco.
46. Robert Hansen Jnr - B - conditioning and frame has improved considerably along with his professionalism.
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Great write ups RF and much appreciated.
Any word if we’re filling the last spot on the list before the season
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Seems like its only Taylor that's got the poor grade without injury/surgery factors?
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Interesting.
Seems like the midfield group in particular is developing in leaps and bounds.
In fact there seems to be players in every position who are progressing well this preseason, except for our small defenders. Really need one of Archer and Lmac to have a good run at it over the next few months.
Haven’t heard any whispers, but I’d say we aren’t looking to fill it considering we haven’t had any train on players other than our VFL listed players. In saying that I’m sure we are looking closely at a few of those that may fit the bill. Sellers, Downie, De La Rue ect.
Taylor & Fisher probably the worst that don’t have any injury excuses. If you have those injured players fit, Taylor is already well down the pecking order.
Small defenders and key forwards still glaring spots on our list. Comben definitely playing back really hurts our key forward depth.
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Heard anything about Deakyn Smith since he started training with our seniors?
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With McDonald and Archer's subpar preseasons, maybe he could provide a bit of insurance?
I don't know a great deal about him tbh.
Going by that we can kind of put together a team (this early in the off-season) together based on care-factor, hard work, availability and professionalism…
R: Xerri Wardlaw LDU
B: Nyoun Dawson Bergman
HB: Tucker Comben McKercher
C: Stephens Phillips Scott
HF: Simpkin Zurhaar Sheezel
F: Hansen Jnr Larkey Curtis
I: Powell Lazzaro Shiel Greenwood
S: Stephenson
Not a bad team compared to previous years. It feels almost like a critical mass of professional players have been drafted and traded in to turn our misfortunes around.
I think you’d need to add pink
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For sure. I more meant that the proposed team was based on roos_fanatic08’s comments. And pink has been talked up as the best performer key back over the preseason.
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The backline without Logue is a train wreck.
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The worst backline I’ve seen on paper in quite a while to be honest. Mids exciting at least now.
That backline could cause mental illness amongst the fans
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Look at crows defence - on paper before last season they were a lot of no names but they gelled.
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Amateur analysis of professional athletes is a big part of the way people enjoy sport.
I don’t want to overstate it by any means but similar to how much focus put on the injury list. The recovery process etc etc. Players incomes as well. The entire mix of elements that create an athletes relationship and commitment to the club.
Especially in their junior years , weight is a key metric of development, commitment to the plan etc.
It’s not the end of the world but I get it and I for one follow the junior boys weights.
I can understand people feeling that was but it’s a very pessimistic
I can understand this take but it’s very pessimistic.
I prefer to see the backline as being untried and a fresh start. But We needed a fresh start and it was a train wreck the last few years, made much worse by injury.
I’m excited to have Fisher, McKercher and Pink in particular join Corr, Comben and Sheezel in particular to have a crack.
I could go either way but I’m hearing and Reading they are training well. Dawson finished the year strong and a full preseason will help him a great deal.
We need some luck with injury and they will work hard.
Keep in mind our fwd line and mids should stop the ball flying down there as much as in recent years too.
Let’s give them a chance
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