MRP / Trib. 2024 MRP Lotto thread II

[Flawed Genius]

On one side - the AFL asked for 8, Anderson asked for 4, the middle ground is 6 but the AFL needs to be seen to be tough, so 7 makes sense.

On the other side. Aliens

 

[neddy36]

Even if Webster would come straight back in and not most likely through the VFL, the verdict enrages me.

Rather than rewarding the team most affected (us), they craft a "revenge game" scenario to desperately promote a home and away game. Scripted and quite pathetic really.

 

[buttox]

Jimmy who?

 

[giantroo]

 

[kool kangas]

Aints vs North .round 8 cant wait!! shame he wont be playing...

Whats happening with the rest of his feral family?

 

[Lomas]

‘The moment’. Up there with the moon landing.

 

[Flawed Genius]

‘The moment’. Up there with the moon landing.

Bit of look at me about this.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Goodnight jimmy, maddi, abbey and jay

 

[Ashley B]

The AFL still haven’t scripted the Boo a Horn game in Melbourne yet , so they still owe us one .

 

[Friday Night Lights]

‘The moment’. Up there with the moon landing.

The moment The Zit popped the news.

 

[giantroo]

The (very long) reasons for the seven-match ban via Chair Jeff Gleeson:

The rough conduct was extremely careless. Webster did not intend to commit a reportable offence, but we find that he did form an intention, albeit at the last minute, to bump Simpkin.

His execution of the bump was at the highest end of careless. He approached Simpkin at speed, he knew Simpkin was vulnerable and not in a position to protect himself, both his feet left the ground, removing any real prospect of not making high contact with Simpkin.

The force with which he struck Simpkin’s head was very high, as demonstrated by the manner in which Simpkin’s head recoiled.

Rough conduct warrants a significant sanction. The AFL submits the appropriate sanction is eight matches. Webster does not advance a specific number of matches, but says it should be in the range of the four weeks given to Sam Powell-Pepper

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Sam Powell-pepper

Age

26

Ht

187cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

8.6

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

5.1

5star

G

0.5

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.3

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.8

4star

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The Powell-Pepper rough conduct was serious, but this was worse. Considerably worse.

Powell-Pepper approached a pack of players who were moving in a rapid and unpredictable manner. His carelessness was approaching such a situation at speed, which resulted in him bumping.

In this matter, it was the approach of a single player with a clear line of vision and the ability to readily anticipate what the player with the ball was about to do.

With Powell-Pepper there was no positive finding that he elected to bump. Here, we make such a finding.

We are not satisfied that Webster could not have avoided all contact entirely, or certainly any forceful contact. He could have attempted to smother and conceded this in evidence.

This was a classic case of avoidable head high contact.

The 2024 version, the tribunal guidelines includes this new provision: “In determining the classification of a reportable offence (and sanction in the case of any charge which is referred directly to the tribunal) the tribunal is not bound by any decision of the tribunal or MRO in a previous year and may reasonably exercise its discretion to impose a different classification and/or sanction than may have been imposed in previous years, having regard to (among other things) evolving community standards and an increased focus on reducing instances of avoidable, forceful high contact and preventing injuries (including concussions).”

There is no reason to assume community standards evolve slowly or in a linear fashion. The need to avoid head-high impact, the need to minimise the risk of concussion has never been more acute.

There is an urgency about the need to continue to do what is reasonably necessary to attempt to change what is admittedly rare instances of player behaviour.

A sanction of eight matches is very significant. It’s double imposed on Powell-Pepper. For reasons we have stated, there are differences between the incidents.

The assessment of relative culpability is not precise. It is not mechanical.

This incident was entirely avoidable. Webster launched into a relatively defenceless Simpkin. He had time to consider his alternatives. The impact was violent and the consequences for Simpkin were heavy. Nonetheless, the offence was graded careless.

We are not imposing a sanction on the basis that Webster intended to commit the reportable offence. It is not without significance, Webster pleaded guilty to all aspects, assisted by impressive character evidence from highly regarded individuals. He gave evidence, answered all questions asked of him, made no excuses for his conduct, which he himself described as unacceptable.

In all the circumstances we consider the appropriate sanction is seven matches.

 

[krakouers]

Before round 1 it’s ok, round 23/24 though, what will it be:

 

[zoomba23]

7 feels about right personally. 8 is reserved for Hall/Staker and Gaff/Brayshaw type non football incidents. 6 just flat out isn't enough. Doubt we'll see him come back in R8, but one can dream

 

[Ashley B]

Before round 1 it’s ok, round 23/24 though, what will it be:
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Depends on the player and team

 

[LuvtheKangas]

F*** it. Give him 7 weeks and let us loose on him in Round 8.

 

[Friday Night Lights]

Weirdly pissed off it’s 7 and not 8 to be honest. Feels like a hint of leniency when there really is no justification for it.

 

[Lomas]

Goodnight jimmy, maddi, abbey and jay

Coincidentally that’s how they are all still tucked in.

 

[Cyber_punk]

He got off lightly imo. Should have been 10. It very likely shortened Jy's career.

 

[shinboner magic]

Do we play the ain’t in the vfl that same week giantroo

 

[Nate7]

Do we play the ain’t in the vfl that same week giantroo

That round but on Sunday arvo at TBBO

 

[ferball]

As much as this bloke is a sh** campaigner, no one deserves to have their family bought into it.

Some of his family brought themselves into it.

 

[Hatchy1992]

Some of his family brought themselves into it.

Yeh I wasn't talking his brother and sisters, they deserve anything they get, but more his wife and kid.

 

[giantroo]

Do we play the ain’t in the vfl that same week giantroo

Same week, on the Sunday.

 

[shinboner magic]

That round but on Sunday arvo at TBBO

Might pop over

 

[ferball]

Yeh I wasn't talking his brother and sisters, they deserve anything they get, but more his wife and kid.

Yeah fair enough (altho his kid shouldn't be on social media at 16 months.)