List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Cobbler]

Richmond will want 9 and 10.
We’ll offer 10 and 26.

93% of trade week will pass.

We’ll relent and offer 10 and 17.
Richmond will hold firm on 9 and 10 but offer pick 30 back.

98% of trade week will pass.

We’ll go to 9 and 17 with 21 coming back.

It will fall somewhere around here.

Unless Baker gets tied to the deal.

Then it’s 9,10 and 26 with something rubbish coming back.

Must keep a first to take to the draft in 2024.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

It just seems insane you don't rate him highly. He's basically another version of Walters that has a lot more leg speed but doesn't kick as well. Walters has 65% accuracy in front of goal, Bolton 54%. It's safe to say that translates to field kicking too but Bolton has pace to burn.

The thing is we will get him at the right time. Not like Walters who was peaking when our team was rebuilding. Who knows the final draft cost but if it is 9 + 16 with some picks in the 30's or 40's coming back then just do it.

As much as I disagree with him, everyone should be comfortable with losing the top two picks straight up with like pick 30 and salary coming back at best. I dont see Richmond accepting unless they get those top picks. It's more what we can get coming back.

If we keep the middle 1st, we have done very well IMO

 

[Dockeroo]

As I have said multiple times, I don't rate Bolton that highly.

FYI - Rankine went for pick 6 or 7
Cameron went for 14, 17, 20 with 24 and 27 coming back.

Paying 9 and 16 for Bolton is massive overs in my opinion.


FYI - more than likely Berry is available at ports pick.

He’s lightning quick too.
I’m tired watching slow battlers like Banfield and JOM and Aish and most of our midfield is slow too actually.
Bolton has speed of thought as well as speed in his legs

 

[Boomer93]

As I have said multiple times, I don't rate Bolton that highly.

FYI - Rankine went for pick 6 or 7
Cameron went for 14, 17, 20 with 24 and 27 coming back.

Paying 9 and 16 for Bolton is massive overs in my opinion.


FYI - more than likely Berry is available at ports pick.

Those players exploded after the trade though.

You sre using hindsite.

 

[MadMundy]

I think at this point, Bolton is a requirement for us.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Changing subject.

What are people thoughts on Matt Johnson from Frankston

- Matt Johnson

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VFL Showreel, R18: Matt Johnson highlights

Enjoy Matt Johnson's standout VFL performance for Frankston

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Instagram 用户 Frankston Football Club : "Matt Johnson was in superb touch on Saturday, booting 4 goals and seemingly playing with a dry footy when everyone else was playing in the wet."

107 likes, 0 comments - frankstonfootballclub，May 12, 2024 : "Matt Johnson was in superb touch on Saturday, booting 4 goals and seemingly playing with a dry footy when everyone else was playing in the wet.".

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He reminds me of Jamie Elliot, in that while he can crumb the ball, he also loves leading at the ball, and is handy 1v1. Is quick, has kicked 41 goals 23 behinds in 18 games.


I think he is worth a shot.

 

[Cobbler]

As much as I disagree with him, everyone should be comfortable with losing the top two picks straight up with like pick 30 and salary coming back at best. I dont see Richmond accepting unless they get those top picks. It's more what we can get coming back.

If we keep the middle 1st, we have done very well IMO

Would love pick 21 but that’s also unrealistic.

I’m prepared for 9 and 10. Salary, what comes back etc will be of interest but the headlines will read FREO PAY 2 FIRSTS

 

[TheMcManusNose]

Richmond will want 9 and 10.
We’ll offer 10 and 26.

93% of trade week will pass.

We’ll relent and offer 10 and 17.
Richmond will hold firm on 9 and 10 but offer pick 30 back.

98% of trade week will pass.

We’ll go to 9 and 17 with 21 coming back.

It will fall somewhere around here.

Unless Baker gets tied to the deal.

Then it’s 9,10 and 26 with something rubbish coming back.

Must keep a first to take to the draft in 2024.

Reckon this is what will happen. Agree we should keep a first unless we start trading forward for Warner.

I think if the last 4 weeks has solidified anything for me it's that in 2025 there's more than 2 holes on the list.

Bolton fixes our biggest area of need. Baker would add something we don't have even if need is stretching it. But there's still another couple I'd like to drop or improve on. As long as we can still take a couple of picks before 30/40 I'm ok with it.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Would love pick 21 but that’s also unrealistic.

I’m prepared for 9 and 10. Salary, what comes back etc will be of interest but the headlines will read FREO PAY 2 FIRSTS

Yeah the two ways I'm giving a tick for actually being strong in negotiating is getting 21 back in anyway and/or keeping the middle pick

 

[go_the_dockers]

Those players exploded after the trade though.

You sre using hindsite.

Jeremy Cameron was already a star. He got multiple all australians, kicked 76 goals, 63, 53, multiples 40's at GWS.

His form has not improved since he went to Geelong.

Rankine average 13 possessions a game, and 1.6 goals, 1 goal assist at gold coast. He has had a small jump at the crows, but not much.

 

[Joao]

Changing subject.

What are people thoughts on Matt Johnson from Frankston

- Matt Johnson

vfl.aflmstats.com

VFL Showreel, R18: Matt Johnson highlights

Enjoy Matt Johnson's standout VFL performance for Frankston

www.afl.com.au

Instagram 用户 Frankston Football Club : "Matt Johnson was in superb touch on Saturday, booting 4 goals and seemingly playing with a dry footy when everyone else was playing in the wet."

107 likes, 0 comments - frankstonfootballclub，May 12, 2024 : "Matt Johnson was in superb touch on Saturday, booting 4 goals and seemingly playing with a dry footy when everyone else was playing in the wet.".

www.instagram.com

He reminds me of Jamie Elliot, in that while he can crumb the ball, he also loves leading at the ball, and is handy 1v1. Is quick, has kicked 41 goals 23 behinds in 18 games.


I think he is worth a shot.

Too confusing. AFL will block it.

Commentators can't even handle our players now when they all have distinct names. How do you think they'll go with 2 Matt Johnsons?

 

[Cobbler]

Changing subject.

What are people thoughts on Matt Johnson from Frankston

- Matt Johnson

vfl.aflmstats.com

VFL Showreel, R18: Matt Johnson highlights

Enjoy Matt Johnson's standout VFL performance for Frankston

www.afl.com.au

Instagram 用户 Frankston Football Club : "Matt Johnson was in superb touch on Saturday, booting 4 goals and seemingly playing with a dry footy when everyone else was playing in the wet."

107 likes, 0 comments - frankstonfootballclub，May 12, 2024 : "Matt Johnson was in superb touch on Saturday, booting 4 goals and seemingly playing with a dry footy when everyone else was playing in the wet.".

www.instagram.com

He reminds me of Jamie Elliot, in that while he can crumb the ball, he also loves leading at the ball, and is handy 1v1. Is quick, has kicked 41 goals 23 behinds in 18 games.


I think he is worth a shot.

Man. Watching Bolton highlights and then watching these ‘highlights’

It’s like shopping for a Bugatti and then checking out the Honda Civic sales.

You seem so deadset on finding a gem as opposed to just grabbing the gem laid on the table in front of us. Just pick it up and pay the cost. No need to go digging!

 

[go_the_dockers]

You had better hope Berry is the GOAT small forward with how much you love him haha

I have bounced between him and Kako a bit.

To me he just looks a very good player, who when he gets the ball makes it count either by kicking for a goal, or kicking to a team mate.

I am also on the Winder train, and now I have jumped on the Matt Johnson train.
I don't mind Joe Richards, and I am keen on Baker.

 

[freo84]

Don’t remember any Freo player ever showing the ball to the opposition, I could really get behind some of that arrogance. Haters are gonna hate him.


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Mate if he promised to do that Carlton in Freo colours.....I'd love him forever haha

 

[freocuz]

Looking forward to Bolton becoming a complete spud next week when he decides he wants to stay at Richmond.


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[go_the_dockers]

Man. Watching Bolton highlights and then watching these ‘highlights’

It’s like shopping for a Bugatti and then checking out the Honda Civic sales.

You seem so deadset on finding a gem as opposed to just grabbing the gem laid on the table in front of us. Just pick it up and pay the cost. No need to go digging!

One costs a rookie spot, the other costs two first round picks.

You don't always want to pay million bucks, when a 50k car would do the job.

 

[freo84]

Looking forward to Bolton becoming a complete spud next week when he decides he wants to stay at Richmond.


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It's called 'Coping' okay....jeez

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I have bounced between him and Kako a bit.

To me he just looks a very good player, who when he gets the ball makes it count either by kicking for a goal, or kicking to a team mate.

I am also on the Winder train, and now I have jumped on the Matt Johnson train.
I don't mind Joe Richards, and I am keen on Baker.

Man, I watched that afl.com.au "highlights" video that involved "man taking easy marks in around 50 and kicking straight" and I assume you have seen a lot more elsewhere...

 

[Cobbler]

I have bounced between him and Kako a bit.

To me he just looks a very good player, who when he gets the ball makes it count either by kicking for a goal, or kicking to a team mate.

I am also on the Winder train, and now I have jumped on the Matt Johnson train.
I don't mind Joe Richards, and I am keen on Baker.

Want to know who looks a good player?
It rhymes with… Bhai Sholton!

Haha.

We actually have a Shai Bolton type in the sheds. Cooper Simpson oozes AFL quality. Just needs time to build.

Hopefully we also grab someone you’re looking at. Joe Berry does look impressive.

 

[wakojako]

The more I think about it, I think it's actually incredible we've had the scoring power we've had the back half of the season. Like, I watched Kozzie break a tackle on the 50 earlier in the year and jam it on his boot of one step for a goal. It was a good goal but nothing special but I was like, man, we have NO ONE who could do even that in the forward 50.

Our goals are all from marks and transition with basically nothing from stoppage. It will be unreal to watch Bolton do his thing up there

Just as importantly, Bolton will free up other players to do their thing. Playing Sturt has allowed Switta to get off the leash. Imagine the impact Bolton will have? If Jacko finds his form again alongside the natural development of Amiss, we could have a scary forwardline. Especially with our mids now kicking more goals!

 

[Cobbler]

One costs a rookie spot, the other costs two first round picks.

You don't always want to pay million bucks, when a 50k car would do the job.

One people come to look at.

The other, people are embarrassed to even tell their mates they own.

 

[Joao]

I didn't want to do this, but you've forced my hand go_the_dockers

 

[Cobbler]

I didn't want to do this, but you've forced my hand go_the_dockers

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The joke will be on us.
Bolton will come here and Freo will go down the gurgler.
Meanwhile, Matthew Johnson will put together one of the all time greatest highlights package in winning 3 premiership medals for North who took a punt on him with a rookie spot.

 

[Joao]

The joke will be on us.
Bolton will come here and Freo will go down the gurgler.
Meanwhile, Matthew Johnson will put together one of the all time greatest highlights package in winning 3 premiership medals for North who took a punt on him with a rookie spot.

Do you even know who is who? I'll be honest, I am not 100% sure I have the right photos.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Man, I watched that afl.com.au "highlights" video that involved "man taking easy marks in around 50 and kicking straight" and I assume you have seen a lot more elsewhere...

Very clean. Not afraid to go, when it is his turn. Decent in the air, probably won't get the make but will bring the ball to the ground very similar to how Walters does it.
Good hands on the lead.
Takes the right option with the handball. Not selfish.
Solid right foot.

If you get him with Port's pick, I think you have done well.