If NOD goes to inside mid /wing, I wouldn't mind Baker. Just don't think he is the sort of forward we need and we have much better inside mids. Hhf rotating through the wing would be ok, but Young, Serong and Brayshaw are resting at hf.
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If we do end up going to the draft I'm fine with that. But I think your expectation that those draftees replace best 23 players is fanciful.
Erasmus and Simpson have been sitting on the sidelines because the step up is a big step when the squad is stepping into finals mode. MJ has been carried to an extent as well.
Go to 1.37 of that video. Sure as shit our guys are dropping that in the middle…which is really the “right” thing to do but sometime you need the magic
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I would happily trade him for pick 9.
It is just paying 9 and 16, I think is too much.
And also Bolton can kick set shots from outside 50.
All of our guys bar Freddy cannot
All of our guys bar Freddy cannot
Trades are rarely just 2 picks.
Even if 9,16 we’ll get a meaningless future 4th rounder back.
If the deal was done today for a requested 9 and 16? Man I’m just jumping on that deal.
We can still have 10 to pick another young player to develop.
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I'm all in on the Bolton train man.....just get it the f*** done!! Enough namby pambying around already. We have had years of the Bailey Banfields running around, working as hard as they can and doing the best they can, but never ultimately improving us or going to elevate us to the next step beyond. Yes - agreed with other posters; we got the cake, now I want me some cream.......
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Stop posting Bolton highlights...
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But we can still do something like that, except it is Bolton (a proven AFL star) instead of Berry (an unknown quantity). We could give up 3 first rounders for Bolton + Baker, and then have the Saints pick for say Hamish Davis as the Banfield replacement.
And as much as someone like Darcy Wilson looks good now and should keep improving, Sharp has him covered comfortably this year for most metrics. That's just one example where even if you cherry picked the draft, you still are unlikely to move the needle for years. And most picks will impact much less than Wilson. I've said go to the draft for 2028-2030 impact, but only if Bolton and Warner are off the table. Now that Bolton is in play, we must make it happen.
I replied to one of your earlier posts with Bolton's supreme numbers at Optus. Maybe you missed it. On average output, he would be close to the best performed player in the whole competition at our home ground over the last 3-4 years.
Would do. Would like a portion of salary paid off. Doesn’t have to be millions, but enough to not place us under pressure to make other plays down the track.
I think I’d prefer that then 9 and 17 and some future late pick.
If Richmond were to give a current pick back it would more than like be 9&10 with 30 coming back.
Even as disgusting as 9 and 10 straight up would be, if that’s what it boils down to I’d do it myself.
Bolton is that specific a piece i’m all in on flag or bust with him as that piece.
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His numbers are very good. If he had a bit more polish, then I would probably be all aboard. I prefer Baker to him, when you consider you need to pay 600k and a 2nd rounder for Baker.
If he was not contracted, and we only had to give up one pick then I would be on board but he is not.
So it’s the pick 16 (likely to be 20 by draft night) that is the sticking point for you?
What exactly are you expecting with that pick 16 that would make you go from a yes to a no with Bolton? 95% chance it will be a player that is not ready to meaningfully contribute for 3 years. And that’s a good outcome even at that.
Players like Bolton don’t come around too often via trade for a club like Freo.
We just have to make it happen.
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As I have said multiple times, I don't rate Bolton that highly.
FYI - Rankine went for pick 6 or 7
Cameron went for 14, 17, 20 with 24 and 27 coming back.
Paying 9 and 16 for Bolton is massive overs in my opinion.
FYI - more than likely Berry is available at ports pick.
And there's a very good reason why Bolton and Baker have different values. Only one of them is a genuine match winner. Only one of them brings the exact thing which is missing from our side. Only one of them could push us into premiership contention by themselves.
Bolton also brings an intangible element to the game in the form of excitement from the fans. The ability to get the crowd fired up is underrated. Energy from the home crowd goes back to the players and lifts them. I went to the dreamtime match at Optus a few years back, and it was amazing to witness both his dynamic play and the crowd level from the Tigers fans whenever he went near the ball.
Don’t remember any Freo player ever showing the ball to the opposition, I could really get behind some of that arrogance. Haters are gonna hate him.
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It just seems insane you don't rate him highly. He's basically another version of Walters that has a lot more leg speed but doesn't kick as well. Walters has 65% accuracy in front of goal, Bolton 54%. It's safe to say that translates to field kicking too but Bolton has pace to burn so will hurt opposition in different ways.
The thing is we will get him at the right time. Not like Walters who was peaking when our team was rebuilding. Who knows the final draft cost but if it is 9 + 16 with some picks in the 30's or 40's coming back then just do it.
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You had better hope Berry is the GOAT small forward with how much you love him haha
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