List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency Part 10

Do you support the club trading for picks 2 and/or 3?

  • Yes Trade for 2 & 3

  • Yes But Only For 2 or 3

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Trade & Free Agency Dates

Free Agency Period - Friday October 4th 9am to Friday October 11th 5pm

Trade Period - Monday 7th October 9am to Wednesday October 16th 7.30pm

Richmond have been linked to the following players:
Ben Hobbs
Elijah Tsatas
Jai Culley
Connor Stone
Jacob Konstanty
 
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Wight Wolf said:
True but i dont remember the hawks losing this many players/bringing in youngsters. Hope the Tigers can turn it around but this is high risk, in my opinion.
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This is different. Need to get as much young players through the door now while we are struggling before Tassie come. A normal rebuild there isn't enough time.
Lucky for us this draft has a bit more depth than most drafts.
 
Wight Wolf said:
True but i dont remember the hawks losing this many players/bringing in youngsters. Hope the Tigers can turn it around but this is high risk, in my opinion.
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I would think we still have more experience on the list than they did, they cut so deep but without the picks we will have.

100% agree, high risk, high reward but its not like we have the choice.

Get the picks right though, or realistically, best case, most of them cos it wont be all, and it could be huge
 

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Wight Wolf said:
Are you Tiggers at all worried that a complete clean out of current players being replaced with teenagers is really going to hurt the club for a number of years? This is a 10 year investment.
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I'd be more worried if an injury prone 32 year old just won our bnf, and we still relied so heavily on another even more injury prone 30 year old to win games, our gun full back was about to leave, 1st year coach and bugger all draft picks.
 
From the HUN:

Unpacking the Suns’ four priorities for trade period and national draft

The footy world is bewildered at the Suns paying top dollar – in this case at least pick 6 – for Daniel Rioli. However, CALLUM DICK writes, the Suns’ priorities are different to most clubs.


Gold Coast is willing to go chips-in to secure the talent it believes can help finally break its finals duck, chasing a high-profile trade for dashing Tiger Daniel Rioli.

So far only pick 6 has been discussed in a potential trade for the recently minted Jack Dyer medallist, but while Richmond is keen on pick 23 as well, packaging them is not on the Suns’ agenda. The standoff between the two clubs will likely cause trade talks to drag into next week.

The Suns have four priorities during the trade period.

1 Land Daniel Rioli
2 Land John Noble
3 Secure enough points to match Lombard
4 Amass future picks for 2025 acadamy bids

Any scenario in which those four boxes can be ticked will be seen as a win.

The Jack Bowes to Geelong deal seems to hang over the Suns’ head like a dark cloud. No matter how many heads-up dealings have been made since, the average AFL punter still sees the Suns as an easy trade target – and perhaps rivals do, too. But we have short memories.

Only last year they were the envy of the AFL world when they successfully traded their way to a glut of draft picks that landed them four academy stars in the first round.

So successful was the Suns’ draft strategy last year that the AFL will change the bid-matching process from next year to make such a haul infinitely more difficult.

Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

Now the Bowes deal is again being discussed, somehow, as an example of why the Suns would be willing to part with both 6 and 23 for Rioli. But such a package has not been discussed.

And even if it was to play out that way, so long as the Suns ended the trade period with the aforementioned four boxes ticked then it would be a job well done as far as they are concerned.

Gold Coast is one of the few clubs that doesn’t want to get any younger. As list boss Craig Cameron said on Tuesday, they were the “third-least experienced side” in the competition this year.

They played 17 players aged 23 or under last season. The majority of those are in their best-23.

The retirements of Brandon Ellis and Levi Casboult – and exit of Sam Day – only makes them even greener.

This may be a stacked draft, but the Suns already know their target – Lombard – and anything beyond that would be a bonus. Adding multiple 17 year olds this year would not move the needle towards finals, but Rioli and Noble might.

With their academy access and priority to attract ready-made talent, the Suns are playing a different game to the rest of the AFL. They simply value picks differently to what other clubs would.

Gold Coast is not Geelong. It can offer the lifestyle but not the location.

It is not Carlton or Collingwood – two established powerhouse clubs in the heart of Melbourne that can tempt players home to Victoria on brand value alone.

If the Suns want to become a destination club then they need to win games of football. To do that, they need to bring in established talent.

It can’t be Dan Houston, because the wantaway Port Adelaide star prefers a move to Victoria.

Rioli and Noble are two players who, at 27, are in the prime of their careers and actively want to move away from Melbourne. Such players are a scarcity.

Rioli might not be Houston. But he is absolutely the next-best thing in trade period. And for pick 6, which would otherwise be caught up in any bid on Lombard, it could be a price the Suns are willing to pay.

Gold Coast believed it was on the cusp of a finals berth last year and fell short. Now, after 12 months under Damien Hardwick, 2025 is make or break.

No coach knows how to get the best out of Rioli than Hardwick.

Rioli’s arrival would unlock options for the Suns. It would allow Sam Flanders to remain in midfield, where he starred at the end of the season. It strengthens the greatest area of need.

And he is versatile. He started his career as a small-forward and spent the first six years of his career there under Hardwick before shifting to defence in 2022.

The Suns made a concerted effort in 2024 to play players in multiple positions. Think Flanders at halfback and midfield and Mac Andrew forward and back. Hardwick spent all year tinkering with his side so that he knew what was at his disposal for a full tilt in 2025.

The 2023 draft crop of Jed Walter, Ethan Read, Will Graham and Jake Rogers will be a core four that the Suns can build around for at least the next decade.

Lombard will arrive in November and immediately improve the forward line. Uwland is a goalkicking midfielder who is already being touted as a potential No. 1 pick next year – and there could be as many as three more academy stars pushing for first round grades by the time the 2025 draft rolls around.

This is the path that Hardwick and co. plans to follow to the premiership he promised when he walked through the door last August.

Perhaps the AFL world still sees the Suns as an easy fleece in the trade period. But they are playing a different game to the rest of the competition and so long as they get the pieces of the puzzle they are after, they will be happy.

TL/DR:
  • The SUNS are playing 3D chess
  • Kanes Cornes and Dammo are still playing Solitaire.
 
tiger_tough said:
6, 10, 18 and 29 for Bolton and Rioli is absolute worst case and yet still a net win. Relax campaigners. Let Blair cook.
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Azzleberry said:
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So Shai is on 1.25M currently.

If he was a free agent, we'd get pick 2 compensation- that's his value.

Pick 2= 2517 points

Pick 10 & 11= 2724 points. Closest you can get to pick 2 is Pick 10&15 (2507 points).

But points don't tell the story. Would North accept 10&15 for pick 2 - absolutely not. They'd want 2 picks (1x around 6-8 and the other pick 10-15).

Pick 10&11 is absolutely fair
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That’s before taking into account he is contracted
 

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If Blair pulls this off, he's an effing legend. When all the outside noise was going on he had his big schlong out ready to go in dry. It's been many years since we were struggling real bad and had an exodus. Lets see what Blair is made of. I could tell in his presser he was pissed, he was ready to rumble.

Granted he made a small mistake with Hopper, he has a chance to set us up for a quick tilt.
 
dean33 said:
No but are you worried in 3 years time we’ll come knocking for Harley with a big fat cheque book?
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Na. Would love to keep him, but he will cost an unbelievable amount if he left. If Tigers want 6 & 13 for Rioli, gee whiz. Harley would take all your draft picks from this year.

'But but contracted player!'

Also unlikely he plays for Tigers.
 
Dragonss said:
If Blair pulls this off, he's an effing legend. When all the outside noise was going on he had his big schlong out ready to go in dry. It's been many years since we were struggling real bad and had an exodus. Lets see what Blair is made of. I could tell in his presser he was pissed, he was ready to rumble.

Granted he made a small mistake with Hopper, he has a chance to set us up for a quick tilt.
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The only mistake made was the coach walked out on the strategy
 
Sorry if Sandra, but apparently Norf are out of the Houston race. They were willing to pay the most draft picks and give him the best $$$ deal, but Houston just isn't interested in going there.

Might hinder our potential to have pick 2, since they were going to split it in order to have a 2nd pick to give Port.
 
Danog said:
Sorry if Sandra, but apparently Norf are out of the Houston race. They were willing to pay the most draft picks and give him the best $$$ deal, but Houston just isn't interested in going there.

Might hinder our potential to have pick 2, since they were going to split it in order to have a 2nd pick to give Port.
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How amazing this comp is that would happen
 
Wight Wolf said:
Na. Would love to keep him, but he will cost an unbelievable amount if he left. If Tigers want 6 & 13 for Rioli, gee whiz. Harley would take all your draft picks from this year.

'But but contracted player!'

Also unlikely he plays for Tigers.
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Depends if mini and Matty Clarke are still running the show… good Richmond men those 2 :)
 
Disco_Stu said:
From the HUN:

Unpacking the Suns’ four priorities for trade period and national draft

The footy world is bewildered at the Suns paying top dollar – in this case at least pick 6 – for Daniel Rioli. However, CALLUM DICK writes, the Suns’ priorities are different to most clubs.


Gold Coast is willing to go chips-in to secure the talent it believes can help finally break its finals duck, chasing a high-profile trade for dashing Tiger Daniel Rioli.

So far only pick 6 has been discussed in a potential trade for the recently minted Jack Dyer medallist, but while Richmond is keen on pick 23 as well, packaging them is not on the Suns’ agenda. The standoff between the two clubs will likely cause trade talks to drag into next week.

The Suns have four priorities during the trade period.

1 Land Daniel Rioli
2 Land John Noble
3 Secure enough points to match Lombard
4 Amass future picks for 2025 acadamy bids

Any scenario in which those four boxes can be ticked will be seen as a win.

The Jack Bowes to Geelong deal seems to hang over the Suns’ head like a dark cloud. No matter how many heads-up dealings have been made since, the average AFL punter still sees the Suns as an easy trade target – and perhaps rivals do, too. But we have short memories.

Only last year they were the envy of the AFL world when they successfully traded their way to a glut of draft picks that landed them four academy stars in the first round.

So successful was the Suns’ draft strategy last year that the AFL will change the bid-matching process from next year to make such a haul infinitely more difficult.

Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

Now the Bowes deal is again being discussed, somehow, as an example of why the Suns would be willing to part with both 6 and 23 for Rioli. But such a package has not been discussed.

And even if it was to play out that way, so long as the Suns ended the trade period with the aforementioned four boxes ticked then it would be a job well done as far as they are concerned.

Gold Coast is one of the few clubs that doesn’t want to get any younger. As list boss Craig Cameron said on Tuesday, they were the “third-least experienced side” in the competition this year.

They played 17 players aged 23 or under last season. The majority of those are in their best-23.

The retirements of Brandon Ellis and Levi Casboult – and exit of Sam Day – only makes them even greener.

This may be a stacked draft, but the Suns already know their target – Lombard – and anything beyond that would be a bonus. Adding multiple 17 year olds this year would not move the needle towards finals, but Rioli and Noble might.

With their academy access and priority to attract ready-made talent, the Suns are playing a different game to the rest of the AFL. They simply value picks differently to what other clubs would.

Gold Coast is not Geelong. It can offer the lifestyle but not the location.

It is not Carlton or Collingwood – two established powerhouse clubs in the heart of Melbourne that can tempt players home to Victoria on brand value alone.

If the Suns want to become a destination club then they need to win games of football. To do that, they need to bring in established talent.

It can’t be Dan Houston, because the wantaway Port Adelaide star prefers a move to Victoria.

Rioli and Noble are two players who, at 27, are in the prime of their careers and actively want to move away from Melbourne. Such players are a scarcity.

Rioli might not be Houston. But he is absolutely the next-best thing in trade period. And for pick 6, which would otherwise be caught up in any bid on Lombard, it could be a price the Suns are willing to pay.

Gold Coast believed it was on the cusp of a finals berth last year and fell short. Now, after 12 months under Damien Hardwick, 2025 is make or break.

No coach knows how to get the best out of Rioli than Hardwick.

Rioli’s arrival would unlock options for the Suns. It would allow Sam Flanders to remain in midfield, where he starred at the end of the season. It strengthens the greatest area of need.

And he is versatile. He started his career as a small-forward and spent the first six years of his career there under Hardwick before shifting to defence in 2022.

The Suns made a concerted effort in 2024 to play players in multiple positions. Think Flanders at halfback and midfield and Mac Andrew forward and back. Hardwick spent all year tinkering with his side so that he knew what was at his disposal for a full tilt in 2025.

The 2023 draft crop of Jed Walter, Ethan Read, Will Graham and Jake Rogers will be a core four that the Suns can build around for at least the next decade.

Lombard will arrive in November and immediately improve the forward line. Uwland is a goalkicking midfielder who is already being touted as a potential No. 1 pick next year – and there could be as many as three more academy stars pushing for first round grades by the time the 2025 draft rolls around.

This is the path that Hardwick and co. plans to follow to the premiership he promised when he walked through the door last August.

Perhaps the AFL world still sees the Suns as an easy fleece in the trade period. But they are playing a different game to the rest of the competition and so long as they get the pieces of the puzzle they are after, they will be happy.

TL/DR:
  • The SUNS are playing 3D chess
  • Kanes Cornes and Dammo are still playing Solitaire.
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Hate to praise the media and all but this article was very good. Well researched, entrenched in common sense and a solid understanding of the intricacies of the Gold Coast list and how they navigate the trade period differently to other clubs.
 
Wight Wolf said:
Harley. And you guys wont know this name but watch out for Hewett.
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Elijah Hewett is going to be a gun. You got a good one there admittedly. Likely gonna stick around which is handy for you guys.
 

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