List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 11th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.

Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[hurricane]

Points don't mean shit unless you need points. No clubs in this scenario do. It's about what players will likely be available at those picks.

Ok. General question though: does the fact that the points system is changing next year make our future picks more valuable than they would have been, at least to clubs eyeing father/son or academy players next year?

 

[BrownPaperBag]

Carlton want 2 for Owies 12/14 ha ha

12/14 would be more valuable than that deal

 

[Nutjob]

Carlton want 2 for Owies 12/14 ha ha

Where is this reported?


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[spurs]

It's hardly stupid to bring in a dual AA with a future pick, but I get you point...

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For potentially a top 3 pick for a 28 year old is stupid.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Carlton would need to trade 12, 14 and find another first rounder to even come close to getting pick 2

They are desperate to get FOS

 

[roos 10]

Where is this reported?


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[archereleven]

For potentially a top 3 pick for a 28 year old is stupid.

It could potentially be pick 6-9, and he's 27.




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[Kangaroos4eva]

Tom Browne isn’t a footy journo any more.

 

[Jimmac31]

Points don't mean shit unless you need points. No clubs in this scenario do. It's about what players will likely be available at those picks.

Correct, points don't mean shit. But it works out better if they do. Or as you said, what players a club is after. If the draft runs deep as everyone is saying, and the top 10 is a similar level. Then a trade with St.Kilda: 2 for 7+8 may be comparable 8 for 3+4. All perception.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

 

[spurs]

It could potentially be pick 6-9, and he's 27.




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Pick 6-9?

 

[LB2Snake]

I wasn't saying what we would prefer, I was talking about Melbourne's tactics and the rumour that they were after pick 2. This looks unlikely at the moment, as they wouldn't need to go after pick 13 first to get it.

Rawlings has already said that we would be happy to drop down two or three spots if we could get a future first. Knowing this, Melbourne could just make that trade directly and save themselves the extra pick 28 required to go via pick 13.

Did Rawlings saw F1, or get something else in this draft? That's what i thought he said.....can't remember exactly though

 

[archereleven]

Pick 6-9?

So, with Parker, Houston, and to a lesser extent, Darling, and natural progression of the list, you can't see any improvement occurring?

Board the joint up then I guess

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[Makeshift Park]

roos 10

 

[New_Roo]

Fair call but Atley is 32 now and was never a needle mover.

Getting rid of senior players probably didn't do much for morale, but guys who were 28 or so, like Atley, Macmillan, even Polec and Pittard attracted no interest from other clubs (sorry to bring up Polec). And Dumont, Tarrant and earlier Bastinac did nothing at their new clubs.

Only Mason Wood and Ben Brown succeeded at other clubs. And Brown missed a lot of footy. Higgins was given opportunities at Geelong but couldn't cement a spot. Well done to Ryan Clarke for playing in a GF but he's gone too.

Essentially we had a big group of senior players who weren't good enough - there was going to be pain whichever way we went.

I'd question BBB, think some bias there. Cost what nearly 4m for 4 yrs and played around 45 games and kicked around 60 odd goals over the 4 yrs.... did that 3 times per yr for us!


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[BrownPaperBag]

I'd question BBB, think some bias there. Cost what nearly 4m for 4 yrs and played around 45 games and kicked around 60 odd goals over the 4 yrs.... did that 3 times per yr for us!


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He won a flag so he was somewhat successful but yeah he certainly didn’t produce at melb what he did with us.

 

[archereleven]

I'd question BBB, think some bias there. Cost what nearly 4m for 4 yrs and played around 45 games and kicked around 60 odd goals over the 4 yrs.... did that 3 times per yr for us!


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1.9m over 4 years, but it's clear to all BB was cooked

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[perplexed]

Did Rawlings saw F1, or get something else in this draft? That's what i thought he said.....can't remember exactly though

He said F1, though I'm sure we would rather split for two picks this year, unfortunately there are fewer options for that.

 

[New_Roo]

It could potentially be pick 6-9, and he's 27.




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Don't let the truth get in the way of the haters!


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[New_Roo]

1.9m over 4 years, but it's clear to all BB was cooked

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He wanted 850k from us for 3.... thought he took 4 @750k at dees so 3m then


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[apollo_creed]

Watkins issues is his kicking can be very poor at times. Gun at getting the ball out though

So the same as Simpkin and LDU.. definitely no thanks. The last thing we need in our side is another poor kick in a side full of them.

 

[New_Roo]

Does Owies to GC free up Rosas again.... he couldn't get in the team without Owies


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[Colby Cheer Squad]

I'd question BBB, think some bias there. Cost what nearly 4m for 4 yrs and played around 45 games and kicked around 60 odd goals over the 4 yrs.... did that 3 times per yr for us!


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The $4M over 4 years was what we'd offered and he rejected. He ended up getting less than half that from Melbourne. It was a George Costanza negotiation.

 

[apollo_creed]

Gee a lot of people thinking we're not going to get out of the bottom 3 next year.
Might as well just not bother watching then..

We went from 3 wins to 3 wins with a worse percentage. They are justified.

 

[archereleven]

He wanted 850k from us for 3.... thought he took 4 @750k at dees so 3m then


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Pretty sure it was 4x450k

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