I literally did just list 4 of the type of players
Why did you put Wines in?
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I literally did just list 4 of the type of players
They’ll help only if they can still play at a decent levelThey will help us if they are coming for the right reason, like Shiels did. If they are coming as their super plan or with an axe to grind, they will set crap standards and make us worse. I would rather we stripped the list back hard, hit the draft, and let Jy and Harry run the joint.
Cos he is still playing wellWhy did you put Wines in?
Cos he is still playing well
Cmon spider use your little brain
Listing veterans who can still play well
Because he would cost too muchWhy didn't you list Bont?
Because he would cost too much
And He’s not even the slightest bit gettable
Yes, but we are also getting them to perform a mentoring role or set an example for the kids. That is just as important if we go down this road.They’ll help only if they can still play at a decent level
Wines captains a Melb based team?You mean like Wines
Wine is not gettable, just like BontWines captains a Melb based team?
Try be less stupid
In the alternate bizarro universe where Fyfe was a North player, he would be our #1 contested marking KPF for the next two years.Andrew Gaff might come out of retirement.
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Crack open the war chest!Andrew Gaff might come out of retirement.
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Gaff, Dusty....bring them home...
true but Macrae and Daniel are two that are low on the totem pole nowGenerally veterans who are playing good.footy are still wanted by their current clubs
true but Macrae and Daniel are two that are low on the totem pole now
Parker we can extend his career and allow him to come home
Ok let me rephrase thenHe is home, he's lived there for 15 years
2 of those 3 are games that fit with what I'm talking about when it comes to choking away games in the 4th quarter. They were only close because we fumbled big leads.On the flip side if we don't get that htb against WC, if Richmond kick straight, if old mate from GC doesn't miss.
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They wouldn't have been in it without him.He was invisible in the GF and his loss is 73rd on the list of reasons they missed finals this year.
It's been an issue since 2022 started, though. The roots that represent our lack of belief have sprouted into ****ing mountain ashes. I'd still kill to see what exactly what happened at the club, and when, when Noble lost the plot. That was the decisive moment where we slipped from the pack and went into free fall instead of using 2021 to pull ourselves up to where everyone else was2 of those 3 are games that fit with what I'm talking about when it comes to choking away games in the 4th quarter. They were only close because we fumbled big leads.
If we fix that issue then we beat WC twice (comfortably), we beat Richmond, we beat GC (comfortably), we beat Collingwood (comfortably).
It's a confidence thing that can click quickly, especially if we add some proper leadership.
He sure does, no argument there, and he’s been good for Hawthorn. And I was frustrated last year that Collingwood had so many small forwards he didn’t play that much, when North’s cupboard was bare.They wouldn't have been in it without him.
Maybe they would have missed finals anyway but for all the talk about him playing for frees he also puts his head over the ball and wins it when its there to be won. Anyway he's playing finals again this year and his old team aren't.
I agree that it's been a long term problem and it really started when we crossed a tipping point with the amount of cool, calm, experienced, on field leadership that we had.It's been an issue since 2022 started, though. The roots that represent our lack of belief have sprouted into ****ing mountain ashes. I'd still kill to see what exactly what happened at the club, and when, when Noble lost the plot. That was the decisive moment where we slipped from the pack and went into free fall instead of using 2021 to pull ourselves up to where everyone else was
No one really has had significant winning experience except LMac, Corr and Tucker. That's not a trio that inspires hope and belief, even though I think each contributed massively to our good performances this year.I agree that it's been a long term problem and it really started when we crossed a tipping point with the amount of cool, calm, experienced, on field leadership that we had.
But, it is something that can change if the young guys figure out how to win. Preferably with some help from guys who already know.
No one really has had significant winning experience except LMac, Corr and Tucker. That's not a trio that inspires hope and belief, even though I think each contributed massively to our good performances this year.
But yeah I made the same point yesterday. Our young blokes are going to have to show the most mettle shown by any young blokes in decades. Here guys, take this machete and carve a path through all the psychological rot that taints this team. Piece of cake