List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[stavro#4]

Because as I said, they will keep shifting a few things around. Leppitch said himself that they will start to work at it again on Monday.

They haven't said that's their final offer.

So based on his interview Friday: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/no...e/news-story/d25f26f72561af437e0b76c5f177e0b0


- the suns have worked out 13 has more value then the pies offer.

• the suns don’t want to trade 23 to the pies
• if they trade 23 then the pies don’t want to trade it to port

- meanwhile Houston hasn’t nominated the pies, so he can go to any club.

And the weekends reports are that the Suns and power are breaking off the 3 way and having missionary themselves to get JL to port.

 

[EconomicDecline]

I don't see how JMc is worth a 2nd.

A year or two ago he certainly would have been but now he's behind Libba, Sanders, etc on the periphery of the best 22.

While the Dogs probably don't need to drop his $800k, it's definitely not great cap management to have a 31, 32, 33 year old eating up that every year (especially with some of their young guns OOC & demanding big fat contracts).

An early 3rd round pick is right on the money IMO.

Exactly. Clear the cap space and then rewrite some contracts to forward load them now to give a bit more space for 2025 for free agents.

 

[joop]

Little brother syndrome.

Luke was a gun, Sam a battler.

Now trying to make up for being a disappointment to his parents by being a campaigner during trade week

He’s also got syphilis..

 

[dudeintheswamp]

Being dragged around shops with mrs pc

For the love of good someone trade something

Hey while you're out would you mind grabbing me a packet of condoms please?

Extra large, ta.

 

[Sainter93]

I think he’s one of the more accurate. Precisely because he’s not as speculative as the other nimrods who find some obscure whisper and put it out there that it might happen. I find that he’s much more conservative (boring in a sense).

Disagree completely he’s always telling rubbish

Twomey is the only one I feel we can really trust. He’s our Woj/Shams (NBA reference for those that follow)

 

[stavro#4]

Hey while you're out would you mind grabbing me a packet of condoms please?

Extra large, ta.

You trying to use them for water balloon animals again?

 

[HeavenlySources]

Does this work?

WC: 7, 8, 27
StK: 3, F1 (tied to West Coast), 63

I know we want two first rounders this year but our F1 (Pick 5-10) + F1 tied to WC (Pick 3-6) would be handy next year and we get our pick of the crop of mids this year. WC likely still have Hawks F1 or Carlton F1 for next year.

 

[stavro#4]

Disagree completely he’s always telling rubbish

Twomey is the only one I feel we can really trust. He’s our Woj/Shams (NBA reference for those that follow)

Twomey is exactly that.

The rest are all kinds of meh.

And to be honest if I had to rank someone second for breaking news.

It’s Tom Morris or that nerd Cleary. Morris probably pips him with his exclusives.

 

[stavro#4]

Does this work?

WC: 7, 8, 27
StK: 3, F1 (tied to West Coast), 63

I know we want two first rounders this year but our F1 (Pick 5-10) + F1 tied to WC (Pick 3-6) would be handy next year and we get our pick of the crop of mids this year.

Why would we do that?

We have a super hand in a super draft and your idea is to trade out into the compromised draft that no one wants to be apart of?

 

[St Neil]

Because as I said, they will keep shifting a few things around. Leppitch said himself that they will start to work at it again on Monday.

They haven't said that's their final offer.

Imagine if Gold went BANG and accepted our offer for pick 13.

Would Collingwood accept pick 23 for Noble?


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[Sully111]

Does this work?

WC: 7, 8, 27
StK: 3, F1 (tied to West Coast), 63

I know we want two first rounders this year but our F1 (Pick 5-10) + F1 tied to WC (Pick 3-6) would be handy next year and we get our pick of the crop of mids this year. WC likely still have Hawks F1 or Carlton F1 for next year.

no

 

[TheJackal]

Does this work?

WC: 7, 8, 27
StK: 3, F1 (tied to West Coast), 63

I know we want two first rounders this year but our F1 (Pick 5-10) + F1 tied to WC (Pick 3-6) would be handy next year and we get our pick of the crop of mids this year. WC likely still have Hawks F1 or Carlton F1 for next year.

Very much doubt we'd do that and actually think it's a poor deal for West Coast too.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

- meanwhile Houston hasn’t nominated the pies, so he can go to any club.

“Can go any club”. Grammar please.

 

[botts]

Whilst i agree on the posturing, were SORT of doing the same thing. I think Macrae is probably worth a bit more than 47 and a bit less than 27.

Its always seemed like well probably wind up doing a swap of seconds (Macrae and 35 for 27) so we could probably lead with that.

The stalemate right now is equally spread, if we offered the pick swap and they still pushed back then id say theyre being a pack of pricks (which Sam Power and the dogs in general do very much appear to be).

47 will come in that far on draft night it will almost be a second round pick. I can see why we won’t to hold onto it.

 

[stavro#4]

The issue with this 3 way trade is that we don’t know where it sits in the scheme of other trades.

As it stands. No club has a first in the teens. So how does any club walk away with value and a win for their fanbase?

 

[stavro#4]

47 will come in that far on draft night it will almost be a second round pick. I can see why we won’t to hold onto it.

Won’t come in that far.

Remember it has to go out 4 spots.

Ashcroft Lombard Kako Marshall and then come in.

So it will be late 30s early 40s

 

[bakes10]

Pick 9 shenanigans seem to be the theme this year and I reckon we keep it going.

Melbourne are said to be super keen on Armstrong with pick 9.

But what if the team with the picks in between their pick 5 & 9 held an interest in Armstrong.

Would it mean they'd need to take Armstrong with their earlier pick? Would it? Would it? Do your thing SOS you slimey bugger!

If Melb don't get Armstrong with their pick 5, we will screw them on the night threatening that we'll nab him unless they do a live pick swap.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Does this work?

WC: 7, 8, 27
StK: 3, F1 (tied to West Coast), 63

I know we want two first rounders this year but our F1 (Pick 5-10) + F1 tied to WC (Pick 3-6) would be handy next year and we get our pick of the crop of mids this year. WC likely still have Hawks F1 or Carlton F1 for next year.

Not for a minute for me. Not even close.
2 top draft picks this year over future picks in a highly compromised draft next year does not appeal at all.

If all else fails, 7, 8 and 27 is an excellent hand.

 

[phantom13]

I don't see how JMc is worth a 2nd.

A year or two ago he certainly would have been but now he's behind Libba, Sanders, etc on the periphery of the best 22.

While the Dogs probably don't need to drop his $800k, it's definitely not great cap management to have a 31, 32, 33 year old eating up that every year (especially with some of their young guns OOC & demanding big fat contracts).

An early 3rd round pick is right on the money IMO.

The guy is over 30.
And if we’re paying his entire contract, 47 is just fine for me.

Both fair points BUT... He is JUST 30 and theres no reason to think he cant play until hes 35. Hes a 3 time AA. This whole "hes fallen back in the pack" is a little overstated too. He played 19 games off an injury interrupted pre season, granted many of them were was a HF/2nd string Onballer but hes also contracted and the dogs dont have to do shit.

If were offering to take his full salary then a 3rd probably is but if the dogs would rather a second (or swap of seconds) and to wear some of his salary, well they hold the whip hand.

Sam Power stirkes me much more as the 80s power business man model who will play stupid games over it but he also can cause hes got the contracted player. Id rather it just got done so we dont wind up holding our dicks at the deadline

 

[stavro#4]

If Melb don't get Armstrong with their pick 5, we will screw them on the night threatening that we'll nab him unless they do a live pick swap.

As it stands. They have nothing left to swap.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Did I just hear right???
We traded Sinclair and Steelo????

 

[Joffaboy]

LOL! Bulldogs offering just a F1. They're taking the absolute mick this year.

- Macrea worth more than 43 despite being over 30, his contract $$$ and falling out of best 22 .

- Smith worth a top 10 despite an ACL and Bevo trashing his value playing him as a HFF.

- I assume they rate Daniel as a late teens pick then? Bunch of arse hats.

Making fools of themselves and can see it backfiring on them.
Even if we don't get Macrae and they play hardball, they get a VFL player on 2.4 million and Bailey Smith walks to Geelong for free.
If they cave Macrae for 47 and Smith for 17, they look like posturing fools.
Imbeciles.

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[The Punter]

My annual complaint about describing draft picks per round. It's always changing. It's numerical order does not.

Please, PLEASE, refer to draft picks by the numerical order (teens, 20s, 30s, etc)

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Soldo was a bullet dodged
Never rated him

Would've been fine as a dirt cheap Campbell replacement but not worth a material decline in our draft hand. Likely too one dimensional to be starting player with Marshall as well

 

[stavro#4]

Did I just hear right???
We traded Sinclair and Steelo????

You heard Grant Thomas on the booze and decide we are shit and should trade out Sinclair and Steele for picks play kids and get more kids like it’s 2001 again